so iv heard patch 2.5 is out for devnet5 or somthing!!!! (Now With Changelog!)

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BlackRain wrote:
mohammadm55 wrote:...
Actually, you can assign any ship to any ship in the latest patch and that is what I was talking about.
Really??? Please don't say you are joking about this, it is one of my holy grail complaints about the current implementation of squad formations. I did not notice it mentioned in the change log.

If so, have they also fixed the ordering of subordinates as well? Currently, it tends to be more miss than hit as to whether it works as expected. IME generally only works when assigning vessels to station Managers/DOs.
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Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
BlackRain wrote:
mohammadm55 wrote:...
Actually, you can assign any ship to any ship in the latest patch and that is what I was talking about.
Really??? Please don't say you are joking about this, it is one of my holy grail complaints about the current implementation of squad formations. I did not notice it mentioned in the change log.

If so, have they also fixed the ordering of subordinates as well? Currently, it tends to be more miss than hit as to whether it works as expected. IME generally only works when assigning vessels to station Managers/DOs.
Why would I be joking? I wont give any more information right now but I said that once it is released to public I will share all the info I have learned.
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Looking forward to it :D
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Just thought I'd say a quick thanks to the Ego team for persisting with support for this title...
Even though it had a rough launch I like the way it's heading .....
I'd also like to hear from Bernd if not a road map a hello would be nice,long time no see! ....

Roll on beta 2.50 my testing head is on ..
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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths »

@Blackrain: Appreciated, with some of the jokes and sarcasm flying around it can be difficult to tell who is being ironic/flippant and who is being serious at times.

I go by the motto "trust but verify" when I am in doubt. ;)
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I don't believe anything I read on the forums without independent reliable proof - not even if I wrote it. :gruebel:
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Alan Phipps wrote:I don't believe anything I read on the forums without independent reliable proof - not even if I wrote it. :gruebel:
so would you believe me if i said the Pancake is real! ? :D

(sorry, this one was necesary :D :P this is no upcoming content, just me developing my Ship Logos Mod)
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I am like this cat
I don't get pancakes
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UniTrader wrote:
Alan Phipps wrote:I don't believe anything I read on the forums without independent reliable proof - not even if I wrote it. :gruebel:
so would you believe me if i said the Pancake is real! ? :D

(sorry, this one was necesary :D :P this is no upcoming content, just me developing my Ship Logos Mod)
I want my screen to say Kommandant, that is so much cooler than commander.
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UniTrader wrote:
Alan Phipps wrote:I don't believe anything I read on the forums without independent reliable proof - not even if I wrote it. :gruebel:
so would you believe me if i said the Pancake is real! ? :D

(sorry, this one was necesary :D :P this is no upcoming content, just me developing my Ship Logos Mod)
uuuh viral marketing :D
So where can I get your definitly not advertised product? :D

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@Unitrader: Ahh, so finally proof that the Heavy Sul is really a big pancake. :lol:

Correction... not a Rahanas :P
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Tamina wrote:
UniTrader wrote:
Alan Phipps wrote:I don't believe anything I read on the forums without independent reliable proof - not even if I wrote it. :gruebel:
so would you believe me if i said the Pancake is real! ? :D

(sorry, this one was necesary :D :P this is no upcoming content, just me developing my Ship Logos Mod)
uuuh viral marketing :D
So where can I get your definitly not advertised product? :D
here ;) although the shown feature with selectable Player Logos is for the next Version and i want to fix something else before i upload a new Version, but since i probably will only do a simple fix on that it shouldnt take long ^^

and thats not a Rahanas but a Heavy Sul, although they share their general Design ^^
if not stated otherwise everything i post is licensed under WTFPL

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BlackRain wrote:
Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
BlackRain wrote:
mohammadm55 wrote:...
Actually, you can assign any ship to any ship in the latest patch and that is what I was talking about.
Really??? Please don't say you are joking about this, it is one of my holy grail complaints about the current implementation of squad formations. I did not notice it mentioned in the change log.

If so, have they also fixed the ordering of subordinates as well? Currently, it tends to be more miss than hit as to whether it works as expected. IME generally only works when assigning vessels to station Managers/DOs.
Why would I be joking? I wont give any more information right now but I said that once it is released to public I will share all the info I have learned.
ok ty for the info and also you said somthing about a mod your releasing, what is that about?
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Guys have you ever played FF 12 or Dragon Age?
Both had a system that would allow to build ingame character behaviors using conditions like "if - hp< - 50% - Cure" ,like in this image

Don't you think would be awesome to have the same system for ships order in X:Rebirth?
You could create sets of commands like "if - SpecificWare - < - number of unit - restock - number of unit".
This way you could keep your ship full of fuel and missiles,but you could also do more funny stuff like "if - player attacked - go to - player location",this way you would have fleets of fighter converging from everywhere in the galaxy into your location,would be awesome to watch :D
And also this way you could have "behaviours" ordered by priority,creating ships/captains with a unique "personality" so to say,you could have a Taranis with the first command about fighting and the second command about jumpdriving into a specific sector if hull integrity < 70% (called strategic retreat) .

I think this system would be perfect for a game wich consider itself a sandbox,think Egosoft would dare to go that way?
Also do you think that a modder could do that with the current tools?
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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths »

@Marcus: I know where you are coming from and I think you may be on the right track. The technique for configuring standing orders like that is not a new one and I think applied to other RPG games such as Neverwinter Nights (or at least the second one).

While X is not an RPG, I believe that similar principles apply when talking about automation of forces that are part of your team/squad/fleet/organisation.
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Really looking forward to the improved hacking minigame, seriously, with Rebirth I am half trader half hacker, it is probably one of the most underrated game features.
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I can't even fully wrap my mind around the planned inclusion of small/medium ships. It'll be interesting to see how these will impact the economy. Between this patch & Blackrain's WWX mod, I think I'm finally ready to dust XR off and start anew.
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santi wrote:Really looking forward to the improved hacking minigame, seriously, with Rebirth I am half trader half hacker, it is probably one of the most underrated game features.
To be honest I still don't know what the point of hacking is.
I have no idea what is changing when I am hacking those computers onboard a station with hacker chips from creepy and not at all obvious black market dealers or with a hacker drone outside of stations which is on the other hand surprisingly legal for some reason.

I only know when I started hacking a ware-part of a station it dropped it's wares but the freighter drones collecting these goods got somehow lost, and started to play ping pong with the station and flying random through space...
So I totally forgot about hacking.

What else can I do with hacking?

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Post by Marcus Aseth »

same here,I need a full video explaining hacking and drones in general,because so far I played only with weapons and missiles :P
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Going a bit of topic, hacking panels on stations several times, will degrade the station defences and make some wares drop from storage units. Then external hacking can disable production modules (sabotage), give a boost to your relations (never tested this, going by some post on the forum). And more importantly doing heists! You do not want to board ships because it feels like cheating, locate a storage unit with the wares you fancy, hack the thing and let your support ship collect the wares, engage collection mode and wait before tagging the containers, otherwise your ship will not have time to close up the distance and will launch drones really far away, if your support ship is circling around, tag containers and fly to it, so he will hold position. You can try to go for second helpings but depending on stations, police will be a lot more active.
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