[PROJECT] Multiple Player ships

Observe · Post by **Observe** » Thu, 26. Jun 14, 22:03

@NZ-Wanderer: As UniTrader mentioned. All textures are referenced in the material_library.xml file. Most likely (haven't tested) the image responsible for those scratches is cp1_window_spec.dds

@Sparky Sparkycorp: Also as UniTrader mentioned, enemy will aim at wherever the pivot center of the mesh is located. In the case of Skunk, it's basically positioned at the cockpit window. This can be changed, but it will affect how the ship feels when you are steering it.

palm911 · Post by **palm911** » Fri, 27. Jun 14, 02:01

middle in between ...

maybe, after requesting dock from the big ships, the skunk could undock from it to land in the station ? to pick up stuff , crew etc? ?

i honestly believe that having BIG ships dock to the station is not what most people looks/expects, but to fly the big ships or any object.

imho if this is pulled off, the highways are not really that useful anymore especially if you can use the thrusters on big ships to move from area to area. (better than just the highway system in place.

Observe · Post by **Observe** » Fri, 27. Jun 14, 02:15

palm911 wrote:maybe, after requesting dock from the big ships, the skunk could undock from it to land in the station ? to pick up stuff , crew etc?

Yes. Agreed.

palm911 wrote:i honestly believe that having BIG ships dock to the station is not what most people looks/expects, but to fly the big ships or any object.

Agreed again.

palm911 wrote:imho if this is pulled off, the highways are not really that useful anymore especially if you can use the thrusters on big ships to move from area to area. (better than just the highway system in place).

As a long-time passionate "hater" of the highway (local) systems, I couldn't agree more. This is why I modded extended thrust time for the Skunk in my own personal game. I haven't bothered releasing a mod for it, because there are (I think) other mods which have done that

MarcusX3 · Post by **MarcusX3** » Fri, 27. Jun 14, 04:13

hi observe, good to see you again. I was thinking about targeting function bing extended to show out of sector deleverys on the locked target... so technically you would find a ship or use the property list, then select it, hit a hot key to mark it, then, remote view it when it docks delivering wares... just a thought.. Not sure if possible because as i understand it there is no out of sector models just a bunch of data being maniplilated... as i understand it it may be able to be fudged a kind of fakey docking scene...just a thought

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Fri, 27. Jun 14, 12:58

Observe wrote:Hi Scoob. Turrets are next on my list of things to investigate. Among others, I want to see if I can get my Hailstorm Destroyer "wheel turrets" working in Rebirth. Here is a video of how it looked in X3.

I also want to see if I can get my Xenon Uziel turrets working. Video here.

Thanks

Loved both those ships, the interior landing platform showing all docked ships was a cool touch too. I've LOVE my Suls and Arawns to have a PROPER flight deck with fighters visually docked that can be walked past. Only drones should be hidden away in the drone bay. Still, ES hasn't implemented the buying of smaller ships yet, let alone integrating them with Carriers...

I do wonder how much can be done, considering the new "fixed" surface element mechanic. You know, prior to release it read like we'd have MUCH more options to customise our large ships. I recall Bernd talking about how you'd pick a hull, then customise it - which simply isn't how it works.

My concern is that many features talked about prior to the games release simply didn't seem to make it in. This is going to make modding more difficult I imagine if there's no in-engine support. I'm not sure if we'll ever see the degree of cusomisation we'd hoped for, which limits modding.

Best of luck Observe, this is quite the undertaking you've set yourself.

Scoob.

Post by **UniTrader** » Fri, 27. Jun 14, 13:25

Scoob wrote:My concern is that many features talked about prior to the games release simply didn't seem to make it in. This is going to make modding more difficult I imagine if there's no in-engine support. I'm not sure if we'll ever see the degree of cusomisation we'd hoped for, which limits modding.

well, it is the other way around: in theory i think the Engine supports it (based on how the Ship Definitions/macros are written) - in practise it is not used, though.. i have no idea if this functionality could be accessed if it exists, but the files are laid out like this ^^

Freeman_79 · Post by **Freeman_79** » Mon, 30. Jun 14, 01:37

Jesus Observe, can I marry your brain?, this is one giant project indeed.
Wish you best of luck with it, gonna follow this.

Also love to see Egosoft jumping in and give hints and tips, not many developers would do that.

//Freeman

Freeman_79 · Post by **Freeman_79** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 03:39

I guess we can kiss this project goodbye now when Observe has advanced up to Egosoft employee?

Observe · Post by **Observe** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 04:00

Freeman_79 wrote:I guess we can kiss this project goodbye now when Observe has advanced up to Egosoft employee?

Wrong.

This project is alive and well and I will continue to pursue it as part of my hobby interests. I've been a bit quiet the last week because I am in the process of moving. Once settled, I'll be tinkering with this again.

I've been working on sorting out custom engines for the Evader Corvette (the ship I'm using as my prototype X3 - Rebirth conversion).

Next, I'll be moving on to installing weapons and other features to complete this new ship. After that, I intend to write a tutorial on how to get a complete custom ship into the game from scratch using the tools modders currently have available.

Thanks

Freeman_79 · Post by **Freeman_79** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 07:38

Aah great to hear, thanks for your reply

Earth Ultimatum IV. · Post by **Earth Ultimatum IV.** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 11:04

In my opinion, we don't need to make capital ships flyable.
It could stay as it is now, that you dock your playership at a capital ship, and you can command it from there.
But if somebody would be able to replace the landing pad with a proper Main Bridge, and add a interface, which would give you ability to command the capital ship in which you are docked to move to a certain position by clicking on the map.

Miniding · Post by **Miniding** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 11:51

Very interesting project!! I'm ready for being a beta tester anytime for you!!

I would love to have more S and M classes player ships controlled...

The idea of a clickable Map, or cockpit and capship deck is very lovely too!

Hope the best luck and smartness foor you all to make it!!

Don't hesitate to contact me there or by forum MP if need of a beta tester as I actually play vanilla (or few modd that doesn't touch original files) cause Ican't be more for you as I'm not very friendly with scripts lol!

Keep up and, again, don't hesitate if need me anyway!

YorrickVander · Post by **YorrickVander** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 12:10

I hate to quash such hope, but the map part of the map display isn't in the lua or xml, it's exe based

Only ES can give us X3 style map based movement.

Miniding · Post by **Miniding** » Mon, 21. Jul 14, 12:57

YorrickVander wrote:I hate to quash such hope, but the map part of the map display isn't in the lua or xml, it's exe based Only ES can give us X3 style map based movement.

So hope they hear us...

Simoom · Post by **Simoom** » Thu, 24. Jul 14, 06:57

If this mod pans out... we will be one step closer to bringing X-Rebirth back to X3!

Miniding · Post by **Miniding** » Thu, 24. Jul 14, 09:59

Simoom wrote:If this mod pans out... we will be one step closer to bringing X-Rebirth back to X3!

Not sure it is the point but having more ships available to control by the player would be a great step for everyone!

Any news though? I know it's not been so far you gave infos... Would love to give it a try to help as my script/modding experience is Under 0

Post by **BlackRain** » Thu, 24. Jul 14, 15:00

Observe is very busy but do not worry, he hasn't left. He works for ego now hehe

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Thu, 24. Jul 14, 15:05

I think that is for the best for us

Miniding · Post by **Miniding** » Thu, 24. Jul 14, 15:37

Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:I think that is for the best for us

Indeed!! And the fact that he's working now is a good thing too!! means that the next release is closer than ever.... Am I wrong?

Cabrelbeuk · Post by **Cabrelbeuk** » Thu, 24. Jul 14, 16:20

Simoom wrote:If this mod pans out... we will be one step closer to bringing X-Rebirth back to X3!

I want X-Rebirth to be a part of the X-series, not to be X3++.

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[PROJECT] Multiple Player ships

OOS View extention of docking ships, Possible?