[bugfix] Station section building bug -> solved and howto fix.

Frumph · Post by **Frumph** » Thu, 12. Dec 13, 21:03

Symptom:
Stations build more then one of it's section right away, leading to a station that is never completely built.

Cause:
The cause is due to the buildcon code not representing segments at the start of the build to be constructed, it labels them as unbuilt instead of constructing.

Example:

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component class="station" macro="struct_bt_alb_cattle_ranch_macro" connection="space" state="construction" owner="player" nameindex="1" id="[0x82ebb]">
<listeners>
<listener listener="[0x63955]" event="killed"/>
</listeners>
<movement>
<offset>
<position x="-5098.39" y="-4127.73" z="-9593.75"/>
</offset>
</movement>
<offset>
<position x="-5098.39" y="-4127.73" z="-9593.75"/>
</offset>
<controltexture id="354"/>
<upgrades>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro2"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_k_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro3"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro1"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_m_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_j_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_m_macro1"/>
</upgrades>
<shields>

^ The above depicts the head section of a station being built,the <upgrades> area is what is currently being built, notice that it states "unbuilt" instead of constructing, because of this the whole build cycle gets messed up.

The fix (until egosoft fixes it):

When you first start the station, and you can barely see any pieces of it, save your game and edit that savefile. Those lines that are within the <upgrades></upgrades> section, change from unbuilt to "constructing" like this:

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<upgrades>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro2"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_k_macro"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro3"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro1"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_m_macro"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_j_macro"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_m_macro1"/>
</upgrades>

This will only work when you first start the station, if you already have a built station with pieces missing no idea, but this is what the reason is why it breaks the building cycle and the fix for it.

It's supposed to register everything in the <upgrade> at start to be "constructing", instead of "unbuilt"

Other Station bugs not-associated:
* Ammo will not register as being bought
* upgrades you didn't purchase when building the section the first time cannot be built after all sections are made

note
I still haven't been able to make the architect's first ship disappear, it *should* but my opinion only after the manager get's placed and all sections are done, dock the architect onto the 'bullet' section then fly away and move.die, so the architect stays on the station but the build ship goes away

quik88 · Post by **quik88** » Fri, 13. Dec 13, 01:06

So i decided to try this out, however my savegame has some extra stuff and I dont know what do with it

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<component class="station" macro="struct_bt_alb_metal_works_macro" connection="space" state="construction" owner="player" knownto="player" nameindex="1" id="[0x1a5fbe]">
<listeners>
<listener listener="[0x1a5f9c]" event="killed"/>
<listener listener="[0x1a5ee5]" event="killed"/>
</listeners>
<offset>
<position x="21423.8" z="13691.4"/>
</offset>
<controltexture id="104"/>
<upgrades>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_k_macro2"/>
<summary state="constructing" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_basis_macro"/>
<summary state="collapsed|unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_mining_ar_generic_bridge_b_macro1"/>
<summary state="collapsed|unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_mining_ar_generic_bridge_b_macro3"/>
<summary state="collapsed|unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_mining_ar_generic_bridge_b_macro2"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_basis_macro1"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_j_macro1"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_k_macro"/>
<summary state="collapsed|unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_mining_ar_generic_bridge_a_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_i_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_j_macro"/>
<summary state="collapsed|unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_mining_ar_generic_bridge_b_macro"/>
<summary state="unbuilt" connection="connectionfor_struct_econ_ref_ar_pmc_k_macro1"/>
</upgrades>

What am I supposed to do with the <summary state="collapsed|unbuilt" ?
change it to <summary state="constructing" or leave it as is?

Frumph · Post by **Frumph** » Fri, 13. Dec 13, 01:15

Is that when you first make the station? If it is, just make them all state="constructing"

If it's not when you first start building the station, nothing I can do about that, you can try setting them all to state="constructing" but no idea what will happen

Everything between the <upgrades></upgrades>

quik88 · Post by **quik88** » Fri, 13. Dec 13, 01:27

Gonna try it out once I get the resources gathered

Frumph · Post by **Frumph** » Fri, 13. Dec 13, 01:31

personally I would try changing everything that says "unbuilt" to "constructing" on that one and leave the collapsed part alone

NBCDumb · Post by **NBCDumb** » Sat, 14. Dec 13, 01:31

are not collapsed state denoting something destroyed that cannot be repaired/restored by an engineer?
Or are them just something disabled (in a normal non broken way)?

Frumph · Post by **Frumph** » Sat, 14. Dec 13, 04:31

collapsed = good working order -> I 'assume' it means that the animation for them is not active as well

For example, one of the bugs that I have seen with station building is that <turrets> and <shields> don't get built when everything else is done, so changing them to collapsed makes them active and working

Frumph · Post by **Frumph** » Sat, 14. Dec 13, 04:42

To be more precise I don't believe just changing somethign to collapsed makes it work, I believe when switching from unbuilt to constructing to collapsed that it actually makes/adds the connection point xml active for that piece

so just switching it to collaposed means nothing because the actual xml for that entity will still not be made... hence the reason to catch it and make it constructing at the right time has made my build plots work

NBCDumb · Post by **NBCDumb** » Sat, 14. Dec 13, 12:46

So a collapsed turret would be a turret hidden under the surface in order to protect it from lost bullets when not in combat mode which would go online and deploy as soon as needed?
But I'm pretty sure my Rahanas had two collapsed hull sections which looked like destroyed when given back by the plot.

Bareus · Post by **Bareus** » Mon, 16. Dec 13, 18:00

Hi

Tried your fix but it didnt work well for me. Few attempts later, I finally built a station. For some reason, the building is still not finished.
Looked in the save file and found this on the construction ship:
<build start="22686.4" type="build">
<queue>
<plan sequence="f" stage="1">
<upgrade>
<upgrade upgrade="shieldgenerator" name="{20104,1801}" tags="shieldgenerator" level="1"/>
<upgrade upgrade="turret_missile_df" name="{20104,601}" tags="turret_missile_df" level="1"/>
<upgrade upgrade="turret_small_mg" name="{20104,101}" tags="turret_small_mg" level="1"/>
<upgrade upgrade="turret_medium_pe" name="{20104,301}" tags="turret_medium_pe" level="1"/>
</upgrade>
</plan>
.
.
.
</queue>
</build>
and this in station section:
<snapshot time="25908">
<buildtree sequence="f" stage="1"/>
<buildtree sequence="e" stage="1"/>
<buildtree sequence="d" stage="4"/>
<buildtree sequence="c" stage="1"/>
<buildtree sequence="b" stage="4"/>
<buildtree sequence="a" stage="3"/>
</snapshot>

How do I end station construction?
Also every part and item(turret etc) is built.

Dreamwind · Post by **Dreamwind** » Tue, 17. Dec 13, 00:31

The work around I've found is to have ALL resources for ALL the buildplan in the ship with the save tool.

Then build each section one by one NEVER leaving the zone till its complete.

Bareus · Post by **Bareus** » Tue, 17. Dec 13, 21:38

Dont work for me, but thats ok as I now have a station.
Next part is that no trade is happening.
Frighters try to dock but undocking a sec later.
???

Dreamwind · Post by **Dreamwind** » Wed, 18. Dec 13, 03:30

You also need the overide construction check mod installed.

As far as the station trading problem goes, any ship you order trades for has to stay in squad with you till their complete, if its doing it with the station manager check that your stations hold isn't totally full.

Frumph · Post by **Frumph** » Wed, 18. Dec 13, 03:40

^ actually, in this case it isn't the hold that's full for him, it's the manager doesn't have any cash to pay for the wares to be delivered, .. he has to give the manager a budget.

Dreamwind · Post by **Dreamwind** » Wed, 18. Dec 13, 03:44

Giving the station manager anything other than a padded cell currently is a bad idea.

if your planning on using and building stations best get used to manual trading, station manager will totally brick your station if you use them.

Bareus · Post by **Bareus** » Wed, 18. Dec 13, 17:40

how do i give that manger some cash as i dont get any option for that. Only architect is willing to take some.

edit: fount it all is good

SieurNewT · Post by **SieurNewT** » Wed, 18. Dec 13, 19:28

Add me to this!

I am building a general magazin for reinforced metal production

all goes fine untill i see that after asking 1 step of every module the architect say me all is finished ... so no way to do the level 2 and 3

Obviously not only it write that all steps are built, but also it will ask again all ressources if i build someting (so every things to rebuild x time just for adding a radar)

I could fix the list display by leaving systeme with a gate (real gate) but it then rebuild all.

pref · Post by **pref** » Fri, 20. Dec 13, 22:14

Thanks this saved me!
Now station is no longer scattered all around the place when stage 1 is finished, and i am able to start next stages (don't even get the collision warning, though i got it before the edit).

jeroll3d · Post by **jeroll3d** » Fri, 20. Dec 13, 23:08

I have 3 station incomplete... no understand wy

Patch solve this, 1.2 RC4?

pref · Post by **pref** » Sat, 21. Dec 13, 16:41

Ok maybe there are further problems. I did all this, and started next stage for URV wharf - now Architect claims again all modules are done while only first stage is finished. No more 'unbuilt' tags in the build plan.

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[bugfix] Station section building bug -> solved and howto fix.

[bugfix] Station section building bug -> solved and howto fix.

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