X3AP Billion Barracuda Bug (& other ships) - UPDATE: Solution in 2.5.3.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Fri, 9. Nov 12, 15:34

Thanks, all saves sent to date have been submitted for test.

Post by **Xenon_Slayer** » Fri, 9. Nov 12, 17:18

Hi everyone,

Just to keep you updated, this is actively being worked on and progress has been made in identifying the causes, fixing them and removing the remaining ships. However, not all cases have been fixed yet.

Thanks for the savegames so far. They've really helped us identify the problems.

Owen

jack775544 · Post by **jack775544** » Fri, 9. Nov 12, 23:00

Can I ask what the problem actually was? Was it RRF as was earlier suggested or was it something else?

Post by **Xenon_Slayer** » Tue, 13. Nov 12, 12:18

This issue affected RRF but the cause was in the game code.

I'm happy to say progress has been made on removing all the excessive ships. The award for the worst affected savegame goes to bobt

However, the sheer amount of ships did highlight a few odd things RRF does, such as landing more fighters than a carrier could usually carry. Some of these issues are still to be addressed.

Owen

bobt · Post by **bobt** » Fri, 16. Nov 12, 14:23

Not that I wanted to cause issues

but glad to have helped.

Don't know if this means anything but I uninstalled the 5.1 Bonus pack "I think" and have been playing as terran commander . Haven't played as long as before yet but noticed that one of the identifiers that something is beginning to go wrong is

menus popping up you didn't call for almost like it's getting phantom keystrokes from somewhere.

fps -- lag and then takeoff like a wheel with a flat side rolling down a hill it's fast then bump then fast again the bump. Not all the time however. Usually during Seta.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Fri, 16. Nov 12, 14:47

I think we sort of established that extended SETA may make the issue more likely or build up that much further and faster.

Arsaneus · Post by **Arsaneus** » Tue, 27. Nov 12, 14:51

We will deploy a fix for this issue later today via steam. Please be aware that loading an affected save for the first time may result in a extended loading time up to 20 minutes. Please do not close the game during the loading process.

I've tested the fix with all saves supplied to me, so you should all have good results. Looking forward receiving your feedback later today.

Arsaneus

NinjaDriver · Post by **NinjaDriver** » Tue, 27. Nov 12, 19:25

It's been a long time since I've been excited about X3, but today is definitely one of those times!

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Tue, 27. Nov 12, 20:10

As well as a fix for those already with issues from the bug, the reasons for it happening have also been addressed so everyone playing X3AP can now breathe a sigh of relief. I know I did!

roadster213 · Post by **roadster213** » Tue, 27. Nov 12, 20:16

is the fix live?

cakes · Post by **cakes** » Tue, 27. Nov 12, 20:25

Yes.

Steam patch was approx. 6.3 MB and mine updated circa 17:00 GMT.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Tue, 27. Nov 12, 21:42

Patch notes.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Thu, 29. Nov 12, 17:39

Just to clarify two additional aspects, this update does not remove the X3AP freighter/convoy escort mission M4 fighter escorts left in and around destination stations after missions end, nor the 'plain race shiptype - eg Boron Vulture Tanker' TS/TP left doing nothing around and behind gates mainly in Pirate border sectors.

These will obviously require a different solution to prevent them happening and to remove them from gamesaves.

Suitable alliterative names for these issues?
'Excess Escort Error'
'Frozen Freighter Fault'

NinjaDriver · Post by **NinjaDriver** » Sun, 2. Dec 12, 18:22

NOOOOOO!!!!!!

The bug is back. Checked local file integrity of TC and AP, no problems. saved and quit out of game, restarted game and loaded save, still got BILLIONS of BARRACUDAS!!!! (Not really billions, but the bug is still here)

Right-click broken image and choose view (Oceans of Fantasy)

Right-click broken image and choose view (Mars)

Found "Tons of Teladi ships" in Grand Exchange.

Here's my Save file

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Sun, 2. Dec 12, 18:37

@ NinjaDriver: Yes, an independent report from another user received by PM too.

From: aethernaught
To: Alan Phipps
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:16 am
Subject: AP Billion barracuda bug still exists after the 2.5.2 patch

Hi the above mentioned bug still exists post patch (at least for me )

After updating to 2.5.2 there are still billions of barracuda in Ocean of Fantasy. Even after full restart.
Ap bonus package installed.

save game: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/90968443/X01.sav

Reported to X3AP Bug-Tracker.

bobt · Post by **bobt** » Wed, 19. Dec 12, 14:35

After some Glorious days of fun yes it seems to have reappeared for me as well.

Same parameters as before. Just more defenses in Astroid Belt.

here's the link to the save file

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/109659698/X13.sav

Post by **Xenon_Slayer** » Wed, 19. Dec 12, 16:02

Hello again!

Long story short, I believe I've finally identified the daddy of the issues now. I'll keep you posted.

Carlo the Curious · Post by **Carlo the Curious** » Wed, 19. Dec 12, 18:10

Xenon_Slayer wrote:Long story short, I believe I've finally identified the daddy of the issues now.

A fallen pepperoni slice on someone's keyboard?

kaluce · Post by **kaluce** » Sat, 22. Dec 12, 16:50

I think I'm running into the problem now too, albeit early. I have a problem when I run at 10x seta, but it hasn't gotten to the point where it's unplayable yet at that speed.

I'm still trying to figure out where all the ships are though, the only real group I saw was something like 70 military ships in Paranid Prime. I warped there, and they were all just flying around the sector.

bobt · Post by **bobt** » Sat, 22. Dec 12, 19:00

When this situation occurs game is unplayable by keyboard. Double responses to any command via the voice engine ie. " docking granted" "docking granted" or one of the words ...

The only way I can issue commands ios by mouse with a lot of patience though it's slow also it will allow me to issue some commands.

The interesting behavior though is that I bought two aegirs and another Wooden from the Moon shipyard. Sent the kyoto to the mars shipyard. and shortly after selecting the kyoto for commands( its the fleet commander and getting the menu up--- and while the kyoto menu is open)

response time is normal can use the arrow keys etc. This happened more than once but doesn't seem to happen all the time.

Don't know if this will help but it's something I found interesting.

egosoft.com

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X3AP Billion Barracuda Bug (& other ships) - UPDATE: Solution in 2.5.3.

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Bug back for me too

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