[Script] TC Stock Exchange "The Evolution of a Financial Revolution" v4 Full Release.

[Logain Abler]

Hi MarCon,

I still have the same issue with the menu on v4 hot fix, everything else displays and works fine:

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The Details of Owned Shares will display the Exchange, but it won't display the shares, it's only an issue where sectors have been joined with the gate script.

In the screen Senator's Badlands works as expected.

Keep up the great work.

LA

[mark_a_condren]

LA

Can you send me a PM with the sectors that you have joined with the gate script please. The reason i'm really trying to fix this is.

1. It's an issue that needs fixing, and

2. I can see that the same thing may be an issue that becomes present with gates realigned with the hub.

EDIT:
Nice buy on the Space Fuel by the way. 99 index in a pirate sector. The available amount of that is sure to go down and make you a tidy profit.

MarCon

[Logain Abler]

Your fix worked a treat, cheers MarCon.

LA

[mark_a_condren]

Glad to have finally got it sorted.

Now just to also sort the issue with Mods that add Extra large cargo storeage to stations. Tends to through the supply / demand calculations wright out the window

Don't worry the FDN, PM one was easy to fix and is already in the test v4 that testers have. But some others i've still to solve.

test v5 coming in a couple of days will have quite a few changes and fixes for menus and other display upgrades. Many from tester feedback, so thank you to the testers, your all doing a great job.

MarCon

[SoliDeoGloria]

Can't wait for the next version!

[mark_a_condren]

Hello Testers

If any of you have found and problems or things that need fixing, let me know. Or if you have any suggestions on things that could be changed or improved.

Upcoming test v5 has the following Additions / changes so far;

- Starting menu will only show 'View Summary' or 'View Detailed Summary' entries if you own shares somewhere.
- Cheat with being able to get paid when buying shares removed
- Additional expandable / collapable areas added to some menus.
- Summary menu has addition info displayed.
- Detailed Summary menu has trend indicator.
- Sectors lists at the top of menus sorted alphabetically.
- Many changes to the code behind the scence for better stability and accuracy of reporting.
- Linking multiple exchanges into one via gates or the Hub, issue resolved.

New Menu,
Options Menu:
- I got sick of making decisions about what to include and how it should work, so guess what? Now YOU have to instead.

Working on revising the whole 'Naturals' ware structure and its pricing.

So if you can think of anything to add to this, lets hear it.
Thanks for all you work so far.

MarCon

[Nho]

Hey MarCon

This project sounds very good. I'll have to take some economy courses probably, because my knowledge in this field is close to null. A few questions thought: It is all about wares, buying and selling shares on wares and trying to make profitss, right? We cannot buy shares of companies (factions) or factories, correct? Then there is not possibility of bankruptcy apart of our own.

Playing with those shares, we can have an influence on the wares prices in a station, thus maybe helping our factories to sell same wares with better profit and/or in bigger number. Still correct?

Will the other races be playing the game too or is it only in our hands?

"trying to see the big picture"

[mark_a_condren]

Hi Nho,

You've asked some pretty good questions there so i'll answer as best i can.

This project sounds very good. I'll have to take some economy courses probably, because my knowledge in this field is close to null.

- Glad you like the sound of it.
- One of the things i've asked the testers to do is help me make it as easy as possable for non economically trained people to use.
- The most important thing to remember is to buy when the price is low and sell when the price is high. This info is displayed on the menu.

A few questions thought: It is all about wares, buying and selling shares on wares and trying to make profitss, right?

- Yes that is correct.

We cannot buy shares of companies (factions) or factories, correct? Then there is not possibility of bankruptcy apart of our own.

- At present, Only the Wares share market is operational. That is what the Menus you see in the OP are for.
- However, the company shares part of it is going to be included, as is a bank that you can deposit credits into and recieve interest and also take loans.
- The intension of the Company Shares side of it is to have it as 2 types of company's.
- 1 will be for large company's that exist in the game already, Terra Corp, NMMC etc. These will work on their in game assets such as ships and so on. So bankruptcy is a possability if your game has scripts running that can cause harm to these company's or the player attacks them.
- 2 will be fictional smaller company's that are created from the 'Forum Users Name List'. The share prices for these will be generated via a script. I hadn't give bankruptcy any thought for these company's, but it could be a possability if i want to script it in.

Playing with those shares, we can have an influence on the wares prices in a station, thus maybe helping our factories to sell same wares with better profit and/or in bigger number. Still correct?

- No, buying and selling 'shares' will have no effect on the prices at stations.
- However, buying and sell the 'wares' from these stations will have an effect.
- One benifit the player will have is seeing areas that have a high demand for products but very little supply. This will cause the share prices to stay very still, thus not much ability to make money from shares. These areas will be prime places for the player to build stations and make money from selling the wares from the station and this will make the share price rise and fall more so you can also make money on the share maket because you have increased supply for the demand.

Will the other races be playing the game too or is it only in our hands?

- No this will only be in the hands of the player.

This is only Part of the big picture.

MarCon

[Logain Abler]

How will the loan element work?

Will it be possible to default on payments and have stations/ships repossessed by the bank? Would be cool to start losing assets after a final notice on a loan


LA

[mark_a_condren]

How will the loan element work?

Will it be possible to default on payments and have stations/ships repossessed by the bank? Would be cool to start losing assets after a final notice on a loan


LA

Thats the general plan and idea, however if you don't have enough assets anymore to be reposesed and cover the debt, you will take a nasty hit to your rep with the Races is another idea i had, and it should be proportional to the debt still owing after ALL your assets are seized.

EDIT:
This is the reason i decided to start testing early and as i go along. If you got all this coded and then released, debuging would be a nightmare.

MarCon

[Nho]

This is only Part of the big picture.

MarCon

So this is a much more ambitious project than I thought. How third party script friendly will it be? Scripts like Litcube Phanon Corporation that add factions for exemple, will they be recognised?

As for the loan question, they will send police vessels to seize your property or do you plan it to happen instantly without the player being able to interfere? I mean, there wouldn't be much to do if Argon seize your factory in Argon Prime, but if your factory is in a Paranid sector, that could make sense to try to stop them.

This seems to be a never ending project. Meaning that it could be refined or expanded indefinitely. I'm quite enthusiastic. No more coffee for your Marcon, you have work to do!

[mark_a_condren]

No more coffee for your Marcon, you have work to do!

Awww ... come on !!! I gotta have coffee, need fuel, or caffine warning light go blink blink really fast then go FFfffzzzzz pop.

Maybe to ambitious, prob biting off more than i can chew.

I'll make it as compatable as i can and adjust it as it goes i suppose with updates after release.

Interfering with reposessions would be good and i like your idea, all i can say is i don't know atm.

I think it could go on for quite while after initial release with addons / updates and such.

Oh crap, what have i done, oh well just keep going i suppose.

MarCon

[Nho]

Maybe to ambitious, prob biting off more than i can chew.

Certainly not. At one pace at a time, you round the Earth. Just give wife and children to the neighbour

[mark_a_condren]

Wife ??? ... Huh what, when? Had one of them once. Child is with once was wife, and as child is 14, i prob don't even what to know what she is doing.

MarCon

[XanII]

Looks great. Loved the stock exchange script in X3:R even though it fell apart in the end and it was left unattended. Gave a whole new view of the world as prices fluctuated according to what you bought/sold.

Does this version got the 'too big to fail' button too?

Risky derivates?

complex AIG monorail insurances?

and of course a way of receiveing a bailout & dumping the risky bets on Argon Tax payers.

[mark_a_condren]

I've updated the OP with the new versions of the Menus that the testers will be getting very shortly.

And testers, i would suggest you have a Good look at the Options menu. I no longer have to make all the choices, now you do.

Will be getting the new version out to you Very shortly.

@XanII
I think we'll just have to wait and see what happens. If it fails it wont be from me not trying.

MarCon

[Nho]

I am a little confused. No hotkey, no command to be find. Does this need a clean new start?

[mark_a_condren]

I am a little confused. No hotkey, no command to be find. Does this need a clean new start?

Thats not good.
No it doesn't need a new start. Runs in an existing game fine.
Did you extract straight to your TC directory folder or to somewhere else and copy them over to 'scripts' and 't' ?

EDIT:
I'm bad !! wrong file in v5. The correct file is on its way in a minute. Everyone else will be fine as they already have the correct file from prev versions.

MarCon

[Nho]

Extracted and converted to XUP. I may have to do a new clean installation of X3TC tho, had some problems after trying to instal some ships.

I'll try a manual instal of your files

[mark_a_condren]

Sent you a PM Nho.

The Stock Exchange command is in the 'Custom' commands in you ships command console. (try saying that when you've been drinking)

MarCon