Crashing to desktop problem

[webBear1000]

Dunno how you can all be so calm about a £35 game crashing.

Bought the game and tried to do the Transport the Boron Scientists mission and crashed about 5 times.

I nearly threw the f**king game out of the window.

I've given up MMORPGs to play single player games for a while because I got fed up with all the bugs and crashes.

Perhaps I'de better just top myself insstead

Oh ...... I crash on autosave or a few seconds after.

Ewww ...... I'm gonna get outta here. This web site offends mine eye!!

[sifer]

yeap this sucks, almost a week of not being able to play the game for more than 5 mins.

So back to the shop for a refund me thinks. (Game no question 10 day refunds!! you got to love em)

note to self : steer clear of egosoft products in the future.

[veelad]

webbear100

Oh ...... I crash on autosave or a few seconds after.

Turn it off, its causing a few people problems...go with manual save until they fix it

[Deleted User]

I think most peeps who are suffering CTD's have allready turned off a/save, i did and it made no difference.

[veelad]

Ive just been talking to a bud of mine, he is a bit of a self taught geek, but an ok guy.

He was telling me, if you have a modern machine and a program that stresses the puter, then you need at least a 350w power supply, and even better a 400w for P4s and those with two hard drives and cd+dvd roms, monster graphic cards etc etc.

250 and 300w power supplies just dont cut it with the extra power for fans/on board graphic fans etc and that these weaker supplies can actually cause your system to do CTDs while trying to access the HDs and other stuff, for a split second they fail to deliver the juice.

I dont have a clue about it, and he may be talking out of his top hat, but i thought i would post it, just incase some of you may know if this is possible or just hot air.

cheers

[The_Abyss]

Good advice, if not only for X².

I bought a machine with a 2200+ AMD and a Ti4200. I upgraded several times, to a 2800+, a 9800 Pro, a 2nd Hdd and now a DVD and DVD-RW. I noticed some time ago that the led on the front of my case was flickering, and some programs would hang. I later found that this was my 2nd hdd not having suffcient power. The original machine had a 350w psu and I since upgraded to a 550w psu - no problems since.

[veelad]

Hmmm mine is only 350w...sorry WAS 350w, just gone and bought a 450w ..they didnt have a 550w

told the wife it was a neccesary as i have 4 printers lol

[cyprinious]

Like a few other people have already stated I am having the same issue. I can't even do the first mission as you are required to go to Ore Belt from Terra Corp HQ.

I've docked at several stations with no problems. So far I havn't played enough to really see what else crashes X2 because I can't complete the first mission.

Such potential too. btw.. I have an Nvidia Card and it's VERY consistant on crashing just after exiting the Ore Belt Gate...

I hear "Entering Sys..."

CTD...

then... "thanks for buying our game, we've installed a handy dandy feature to ensure your marriage will last forever. we've simply discovered that by frustrating the crap out of our customers, that they will give up playing video games of any type, hence saving their social and marriage lives from that day forward! YAY for us!"

[Mark C]

Entering Ore belt

CTD

Entering Ore belt

CTD

Entering Ore Belt

CTD

Entering Ore belt

CTD

Entering Ore belt

CTD

Entering Ore Belt

CTD

Entering Ore belt

CTD

Entering Ore belt

CTD

Entering Ore Belt

CTD

See, its annoying isnt it. How i feel when getting this is 10 times worse.

Did egosoft actually bother with beta testing?

[veelad]

Mark C

have a look at the possible solutions thread (now a sticky ) here

http://www.egosoft.com/x2/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25361

good luck

[mogsey2003]

Hi,

I currently have a save game that when I load and try to exit the trading station in The Wall crashes every single time.

I'm running the UK version and until now everything has been fine. Last night I bought the Mk3 trading softare and set the mercury (from second mission) to trade in home of light. I parked up the disco at the trading station in the wall and hit J and left it overnight. Today I went back to the game, stopped seta and saved the game. Now when trying to leave the station it CTD.

I have another save game from just before I bought the Mk3 trading software which works fine.

If anybody at Egosoft would like the save game contact me.

Cheers

Mike

System Spec
2800XP Barton
MSI K7N2-ILSR
2 * 512Mb Corsair TwinX
2 * 120Gb SATA (Raid 0)
NVidia 5900 FX
On board sound
XP + SP1a + All patches

[duriel]

well i'm running an

amd athlon 900
radeon 9200 se
768 mb ram

the game runs fine for me aslong as i make sure i save beore any of the cut scenes. if i switch of the warp sequence and save before all the mission cut scences the game runs fine.

The game has ctd'd once in the last 20 hours of game play due to the sutoasve which i still keep on (its crashed once in over 50 hours of game play due to this). and i make i sure i save alot anyway.

The game is fine as far as i'm concerned.

[veelad]

Hmmm, I would be doubtfull, (but dont rule it out, obviously) that the MK3 trading script is to blame.

You have only had the game for a short while (just over a week) and reading back on some of the CTD posts, Some US gamers ran for a few weeks/month or so with no CTD problems (pre MK3 trading script), then out of the blue...BAM, a CDT. I have had a CDT before MK3 and after MK3.

cheers

[Gun-HO]

enyone find a fix yet?
i had the problem in 1.0 and still do in 1.2...
game is unplayable crashes to desktop every 10-20 minutes randomly.

System Spec
2800XP Barton
MSI K7N2-ILSR
2 * 256Mb Geil
2 * 60Gb SATA
ATI 9800 PRO
SB Live 5.1
XP + SP1a + DX 9.0b
All drivers updated
All windows/game patches done

[Deleted User]

Yep i have been fortunate to find what i think was the problem on my machine ... The CPU fan was running slow (approx 900 rpm) when it should be 2500 rpm

My h/sink is the Zalman hedgehog type with a 80mm fan which was insufficient in my opinion so i fitted a second fan (80mm) to assist cooling which solved my CPU overheating problems in the summertime.

Not only was the original fan supplied with the all copper Zalman cooler inneficient, it was dangerous too when i removed the cover from my case and touched the faulty fan it was at near melt point resulting in a near blast furnace heat being directed at the heatsink meanwhile the second fan that i fitted to assist in cooling was struggling to cope all on it's own.

Yesterday i started playing X2 around lunchtime and stopped around one o clock this morning without a single CTD

My apologies to EGO for blaming them for all MY computer's glitches and hardware failures.

[CHAZZ]

Hi there!
My first post on the Tech forum, and CTD-related it is

I have a weird glitch in my X2: when the 'P' menu shows the date (flying time or whatever) exactly 4-23:20, my game quits to desktop. 4-23:18 - All is well...4-23:19 - all is well, then 4-23:20 - BOOM! the fastest C-T-D ever. It takes just a splitsecond.No message, no error report nothing. Tried to reload older saves, change ship, change sector, nada.The game just quits.
Is there some sctipted event that should happen at that hour and minute? I completed only the TP-Argon Express scientists mission, and am trying to rack in some money to get the feel of the game.Had the cutscene with the Khaak ships, and Khaaks busted Pres.End sector, are attacking other sectors but i can keep the peace ok by helping the Capital ships fighting Khaaks with my Barracuda.
So far i had CTD's: Entering sectors with/without tunnel sequence, exiting Trading stations, about to enter EPP's (really!, i mean hundreds meters away, not in the airlock itself),random ones too, and an consistent CTD (avoidable): force the enemy pilot to bail, SH+E, space walk to captured ship, enter ship, exit ship, space walk, enter your old ship:cockpit view loads and game gos CTD/hangs hard.
Now, i can live with the random CTD's (saving frequently, using Salvage Ins. often etc), but the "Timed CTD" makes the game progress impossible.
Any ideas??
C.

[LV]

reproducable ctd's are sent to bugs@egosoft.com

[CHAZZ]

Thanks LV, but oh well, i have no intentions to...khm.. intentionally 'reproduce' bugs.The 'space walk bug' is easily avoidable anyway. The other one preventing me to play my game IS frustrating tho
C.

[sberry]

Another thing you can try is fixing the size of the paging file (virtual ram). You do this by going to Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> [Preformance] Settings -> Advanced Tab -> (Virtual Memory) Change

Set it to a custom size and make the minimum and maximum numbers the same.

When I first started playing I was getting CTDs before I could make it to a jump gate. When I tried everything from Veeled's collection of things to try it was CTDing within 5 minutes. After I fixed the paging file I can notw play for 1-2 hours before getting a CTD. which with regular saving I can live with.

I think the problem is to do with Virtual Memory management in WinXP. I am having a very similar problem with Operation Flashpoint. A year or so ago I played it on this exact same computer and had no problems. But now it's CTDing within 5 minutes. The same as X2. However Battlefield 1942 seems to work ok and if I remember right it uses its own virtual memory.

The other factor could be that I dont really have enough RAM. I have 256Mb so when I play X2 it has to use the page file. I'm going to get some more RAM in the next few weeks so I'll you know if that helps. I also think my PC may not be adequately cooled so I'll try getting an extra fan too.

I'm curious if anyone else who gets CTD's every hour or two need to use virtual RAM to run it? I guess if you have a 512-1024 Mb of RAM, have tried everything in Veeleds howto and still have problems.

Hope this has helped

[CHAZZ]

In my case, i reloaded several older saves, then i docked somewhere and engaged SETA. Propmptly, at game time 4-23:20 the game goes CTD. I even tried to reload some even older save, then send ALL my ships home (so no scripts are running whatsoever), then i engage SETA and wait...for the inevitable CTD. I am wondering if there is some kind of scripted event or cutscene or something that is triggered on 4-23:20, and maybe the cutscene itself is corrupted or missing or something. Otherwise i CAN play the game,random CTD's and all, but not over that exact point in the game.
Any hint will be appreciated, since i am getting pretty dissapointed and quite desperate.