Make 32bit OS use more Ram

amtct · Post by **amtct** » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 20:13

I hope this isn't a wrong post and if it is I apologies and this thread can be deleted.

This is a way you can make your 32bit Windows Vista use more than 4Gb Ram.

Click Start.

Type CMD in the Search Bar.

Press Ctrl + Shift + Enter to run cmd in administrative mode.

Type BCDEdit /set PAE forceenable

If this does not work try other 2 times at least. As a matter of fact Vista does not take this command right away in some cases. Make also sure to type the command in the same way it is written on point 4.

If Vista got this command successfully you should see the following message: the operation completed successfully.

To undo it, type: BCDEdit /deletevalue PAE

I hope this post will help people who have more Ram on 32bit system.

Cheers,Adrian.

perpiotrredman · Post by **perpiotrredman** » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 21:00

First, the change won't have any effect at all until after you reboot, as BCDEdit is a command line program to set the boot-up options of the operating system.

Second, this is PAE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

It can, concievably, allow the 32-bit operating system to use up to 64GB of RAM in total but each application will still only be given 4GB of addressing space.

This also requires that you are using a processor that supports PAE, which would be any Athlon 64, Pentium 4 model D or newer. It may be possible even on earlier x86 processors, but I lack the expertise to say where the line is drawn. You can check your processor using CPUID, look for the "PAE" flag.

amtct · Post by **amtct** » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 22:23

Of course your programs each application will still only be given 4GB because each application is made for specific 32/64bit systems.

All this changes will work only your 32bit OS.

I can put a picture with a system with 64Gb ram with Vista x86.Also the Dxdiag.

xeon_1 · Post by **xeon_1** » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 22:40

amtct wrote:Of course your programs each application will still only be given 4GB because each application is made for specific 32/64bit systems.

All this changes will work only your 32bit OS.

I can put a picture with a system with 64Gb ram with Vista x86.Also the Dxdiag.

i am sorry but how in there right mind would build and pay for a system 64gig of ram and only a 32bit os?
the 64bit version of windows cost just as much.
Here anyway.

perpiotrredman · Post by **perpiotrredman** » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 23:17

xeon_1 wrote:i am sorry but how in there right mind would build and pay for a system 64gig of ram and only a 32bit os?
the 64bit version of windows cost just as much.

Usually because there was no 64-bit version of Windows when the application in question was built, or the application / applications are built on older, 32-bit codebases and need to be run in 32-bit for compatibility's sake, but at the same time have outgrown their old requirements and really do need all the memory they can get.

Also using this method of paging application addressing spaces to a larger OS pool you can for example virtualize several machines with 4GB of RAM each on a single well-endowed physical server machine.

xeon_1 · Post by **xeon_1** » Tue, 17. Feb 09, 23:41

yea but if you are using windows of the latest generation for the server and you want to run virtual servers.
you use the 64bit version as hyper-v only supports 64bit

perpiotrredman · Post by **perpiotrredman** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 00:03

There are more ways to virtualize than to use inherent processor support.

amtct · Post by **amtct** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 00:25

The answer is simple ,I have a 64 Gb ram computer and I tested a 32bit OS on that.

You guys are right,it's strange to have a 64gb ram system with an 32bit OS.

xeon_1 · Post by **xeon_1** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 00:31

amtct wrote:The answer is simple ,I have a 64 Gb ram computer and I tested a 32bit OS on that.

You guys are right,it's strange to have a 64gb ram system with an 32bit OS.

Cool.
Could you post the spec's of that machine here?
And of course the question on everybody's mind how does it run x3tc

madness 3D · Post by **madness 3D** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 00:36

xeon_1 wrote:
amtct wrote:The answer is simple ,I have a 64 Gb ram computer and I tested a 32bit OS on that.

You guys are right,it's strange to have a 64gb ram system with an 32bit OS.
Cool.
Could you post the spec's of that machine here?
And of course the question on everybody's mind how does it run x3tc

more like crysis

in all likelyhood its probably a server with no discrete gfx to speak of but oh well the comment was there

amtct · Post by **amtct** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 00:41

Tomorow I will put a dxdiag in the forum.I have a PC shop and there is that computer,now I'm home.

How it runs X3TC?....Like any other system.Remember that the game only use 2gb of ram ,so the rest its only to impress Jean Luc Picard(I think the Enterprise computer have only 32Gb ram

).

BTW I have a 2 Gb at 667Mhz PC which is better for TC then the 64gb system.

(that is strange).

madness 3D · Post by **madness 3D** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 00:49

amtct wrote:Tomorow I will put a dxdiag in the forum.I have a PC shop and there is that computer,now I'm home.

How it runs X3TC?....Like any other system.Remember that the game only use 2gb of ram ,so the rest its only to impress Jean Luc Picard(I think the Enterprise computer have only 32Gb ram ).

BTW I have a 2 Gb at 667Mhz PC which is better for TC then the 64gb system. (that is strange).

presumably because the other components are faster?

amtct · Post by **amtct** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 01:00

madness 3D wrote:
amtct wrote:Tomorow I will put a dxdiag in the forum.I have a PC shop and there is that computer,now I'm home.

How it runs X3TC?....Like any other system.Remember that the game only use 2gb of ram ,so the rest its only to impress Jean Luc Picard(I think the Enterprise computer have only 32Gb ram ).

BTW I have a 2 Gb at 667Mhz PC which is better for TC then the 64gb system. (that is strange).
presumably because the other components are faster?

No...,it's an Dual Core E2140 at 1,6Ghz.

Now can somebody tell me how I make a dxdiag on a linux server?

perpiotrredman · Post by **perpiotrredman** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 01:12

There's no DirectX in Linux, so the answer is that you cannot.

Can't help you with anything similar either, unless you want to ls -r /dev/ >dxdiag.txt

amtct · Post by **amtct** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 01:18

perpiotrredman wrote:There's no DirectX in Linux, so the answer is that you cannot.

Can't help you with anything similar either, unless you want to ls -r /dev/ >dxdiag.txt

I know that is no dxdiag but I tought someone know a trick or something.

eladan · Post by **eladan** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 01:50

What information are you after exactly? On windows, dxdiag gives a variety of information for different components. There is no equivalent for linux that I'm aware of, but the information present in a dxdiag that makes sense for a linux system can still be obtained by other means.

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 08:32

dmidecode, lspci, lshal, glxinfo, ...

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 08:37

Doesn't Linux store a lot of this info in virtual files in the /proc filesystem? Don't know which files you'd need to look at in there, though.

eladan · Post by **eladan** » Wed, 18. Feb 09, 09:10

Yup. Many of the linux utilities simply make the information in /proc more human readable (although much of it is quite readable as is.)

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