[1.2] New game running at 60-70 FPS, saved game running at 10-12 FPS.

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Karlfrans
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Post by Karlfrans »

Yay, finally :D
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Post by Tycow »

Change log for people:

- Performance problem and memory leak fixed
- Jumpdrive functionality to gateless sectors fixed
- Removed Argon Shipyard from Atreus HQ
- Buying reputation fixed for tractor beam factories
- Removed question mark videos when buying stations and ships
- Playership can no longer be a wingman
- Passenger transfer fixed
- Best buys/best selling price locators also work with advanced satellites
- Script editor: Fixed script engine instructions "find gate" and "get ammunition"
- Fixed warpgate selection in sector menu

Good work chaps! :)
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Post by shrikebtr »

SWEET!

Except Fallout 3 just came out. Dammit!

Can anyone take my job for a few days :p
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Post by ezra-r »

I CAN CONFIRM 1.2.1 RESOLVES THE ISSUE, YOU NOTICE THE INCREASE THE MOMENT YOU LOAD!

AWESOME EGOSOFT!!!
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Post by Stealth17 »

Egosoft, good job! My framerate has indeed increased!

Would it help if I were to start a new game to stop spawning the enormous amounts of ships currently uselessly filling my sectors?
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Post by Tlaltiplac »

Well I can confirm that it hasn't resolved issues of low FPS in certain sectors.

I am running it through Windows XP pro atm not tried Vista 64 yet but I have triest all different options from the min graphics details and resolution to the highest. The result is still the same.

For example I could fly around Cloud Base 9 with not a jump - perfectly smooth graphics at about 30-35 fps average but when I fly into Argon Prime it just falls to 1 fps.

What I have noticed is that when I move the craft view to certain positions then the fps comes back. but as soon as I point to the middle of the sector it drops back to 1 fps.

This also happens in random sectors - sometimes where there is not a lot of ships, stations etc but it will always happen.

My comp is self built and the spec of the comp can run Crysis quite happily in DX10 Ultra high Settings at an average of 28 fps.

I do believe this is a fault in the game but I am not software savvy enough to provide a possible reason. All I know is that my hardware is more than a match for the spec of the game.
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Post by LordDivine »

Sadly my old savegame is running at exactly the same crappy FPS with the 1.2.1 patch as before, and a brand new game runs much much better... Exactly the same as before for me at least.

Will starting a new game now not degrade in performance over time with the 1.2.1 patch? Or it is just a waste of time since 1.2.1 didn't have any performance increase at all on my old unplayable savegame?

[EDIT] Actually checking with fraps it did increase my average FPS in my old savegame, but it's still nowhere near what it is starting a new game and going to the same sector though :(
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Post by X2-Eliah »

Did you try to play the old save for more that half an hour? It has been stated, iirc, in this thread, that the changes need to take some playtime, some jumping between sectors, preferably some intermediate saving aswell.. Give that a try and then tell us how it goes.
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Post by ezra-r »

If any of you feels its not fixed it is.. Id ask you to check your game config and modding or scripts if any, you can notice the increase the moment you load.

And please separate between game slow fps affecting cpu performance and high graphics slow gps due to gpu that cant cope.

Its a pleasure for me to navigate the X-Universe now and I can be sure if I have slow fps is due to my high graphic settings rather than a game thing.

It is easily noticed really.
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Post by Atkara »

LordDivine wrote:Sadly my old savegame is running at exactly the same crappy FPS with the 1.2.1 patch as before, and a brand new game runs much much better... Exactly the same as before for me at least.

Will starting a new game now not degrade in performance over time with the 1.2.1 patch? Or it is just a waste of time since 1.2.1 didn't have any performance increase at all on my old unplayable savegame?

[EDIT] Actually checking with fraps it did increase my average FPS in my old savegame, but it's still nowhere near what it is starting a new game and going to the same sector though :(
Matey, if I'm not mistaken, your machine has the following specs:

AMD X2 4800+ @2.41Ghz
2048mb Dual Channel Ram
GeForce 8800GTX 768MB

If you use windows vista, you've got a problem, since Vista eats up around 800MB of RAM by the time you log on. This leaves you with 1.2GB of available RAM for every other app, X3TC included. And the game WILL use 1.2+ GB of RAM and bring your machine to an unpleasant situation.

Other than that, X3TC relies heavily on CPU. Also, it isn't configured to utilize more than one core. From what I've seen so far on my own machine, 2.4GHz just aren't enough for X3TC.

I'm not saying that the game is bug-free, not at all. But someone has to closely observe the game, in order to be able to determine if he's looking at a bug, or hardware limitation.
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Post by Carlo the Curious »

Bear in mind that there could still be issues causing progressive performance loss - the hotfix didn't necessarily resolve all of them.

The performance problem fixed in 1.2.1 might just be the animations issue that CBJ mentioned.
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Post by snowman001 »

Thank you Ego excellent work :)

iv not tried it yet as iv just logged on at work and i was in the pub last night :oops:

i want to pull a sickie now to go home and play :lol:
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Post by shireknight »

I'm not suffering from low fps anymore :D . Here's a repeat of a post I made in the main forum

Ok I don't know what you guys have done in the patch but I don't believe the story about the slowdown being caused by cut scenes that's for sure -this is what just happened to me :-

Using Fraps I loaded my save game, un-docked from the station I was at and headed to the nearest gate, during the trip I had average fps of 35 I went through the gate and travelled for about 30 seconds in a straight line recording an average of 38fps. I then quit the game.

I installed the patch, restarted my PC and did exactly the same thing. This time I recorded average fps of 85 and 110 respectively, at one point I got just over 130fps.

I'm just shocked Surprised oh and for anyone who thinks I'm just a lying bag of guff here's a screenshot taken about 10 seconds after arriving in the sector (Circle of Profit I think is was called)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/Sh ... 00x600.jpg




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Post by Tiddz »

Patch 1.2.1 doesn't seem to be implemented on the Steam version yet.

Can anyone confirm this?
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Post by wrongshui »

You can apply the patch manually, although it doesn't seem to have affected my games FPS at all, so I shall wait for steam to get it sorted.

Edit : I'm shelving this till the memory leaks are plugged since 4 fps just isn't playable.

I'd take it back but alas I brought it on steam.
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Post by shrikebtr »

Yeah unless the patch is miniscule, and Egosoft didn't follow some sort of Steam guideline (providing the update notes), AND forgot to update the version number on the pre-game menu, the update isn't going out through Steam yet. I checked periodically all last night, and tried again this morning, and still nothing. Tonight after work I am going to try deleting clienregistry.blob and see if that forces an update, otherwise... getting a little frustrated.

Guess I'll just keep enjoying FO3 (which runs beautifully) while I wait for something to happen.
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Post by Mad Ashy »

My performance for 1.2.1 patch

My Comp:-

2x opteron 2Ghz Processors
2GB DDR Ram dual channel 3200
6800 Gt 256MB clocked to 435Mhz
Sound Adigy 2 ZS

Super super silky smooth performance in The Wall sector so should be good and playable everywhere now. Before The Wall sector was 2fps. Massive performance improvement for me at least 30fps now thank u Egosoft :))))))

Even putting graphics up higher I get the same fantasic performance defo a CPU performance improvement in 1.2.1

Tried it only on a bad performance v 1.2 save
CPU - Motorola 68000 12Mhz
Zilog Z80 4Mhz
RAM - 74KB
Vid - 64KB
Sound - Yamaha YM2610 15
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Post by Karlfrans »

I installed the patch manually (because it wouldn't update via Steam), and it definitely increased my FPS, but not at all to the same level, as when I start a new game. But at least it's playable now ..
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Post by Tlaltiplac »

I thought I should say that now my game woes have been fixed. I decided to wipe the hard drive and re-install windows. This seems to have fixed the problem.

There must of been some sort of corruption that effected the way the game operates. So if all else fails - try a re-install of your OPS
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Post by TTD »

Phyxion wrote

I've noticed even when this doesn't happen, most ships act funky when going through a gate, even the player ship on autopilot - it'll head near the gate but outside the ring, then turn around and go back and forth a few times before it actually goes THROUGH the gate. Has anyone else noticed this?
This has been an annoying thing with auto-pilote since who knows when. I rarely use auto to fly through gates unless I am not in a hurry to get somewhere. Those few seconds can make a lot of profit.

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