Ship/Factory 3D Models and Stats Viewer version 1.1.1.6 (spoiler?) NEW VER. APR 07

[BugMeister]

wow!!

- 'swunnerful!

[bunk]

Thanks for this, well done. A powerful tool for selecting ships. One comparison look makes selection fast and easy.

[Jodahunseen]

bar none the best way to get ship info and nicely displayed as well. Great work.

[Graxster]

Crystal = 2 points, but looks like it should have 4

Arghhhhhh!!! Wish I had found this thread sooner. I'm in the middle of laying out a huge complex, and already have 3 crystal fabs layed out as well as several other facs. Layed them out with the impression that all those nodes were real.... *screams and rips hair out*

P.S. Is there any way to edit the factory models and put them back in the game, do you know? I see that you can use custom ships... I have 3dsmax, so the editing wouldn't be a problem in itself, not sure if the factories are hardcoded or not tho. Would be nice to be able to add more nodes, and make the dummy nodes real.

[A Team]

Crystal = 2 points, but looks like it should have 4

Arghhhhhh!!! Wish I had found this thread sooner. I'm in the middle of laying out a huge complex, and already have 3 crystal fabs layed out as well as several other facs. Layed them out with the impression that all those nodes were real.... *screams and rips hair out*

P.S. Is there any way to edit the factory models and put them back in the game, do you know? I see that you can use custom ships... I have 3dsmax, so the editing wouldn't be a problem in itself, not sure if the factories are hardcoded or not tho. Would be nice to be able to add more nodes, and make the dummy nodes real.

You should have a look at this thread http://forum2.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=125090, its in the stickys

[Deleted User]

snip ... P.S. Is there any way to edit the factory models and put them back in the game, do you know? I see that you can use custom ships... I have 3dsmax, so the editing wouldn't be a problem in itself, not sure if the factories are hardcoded or not tho. Would be nice to be able to add more nodes, and make the dummy nodes real.

Delayed resonse: couldn't get on-line for a couple of hours - Orange/Wanadoo having a prob. or two.

- the scripts & modding forum has good info on modding ,
and there's several wiki / player / modding sites with tutorials about modelling with 3dsmax, and adding to the game.

I think the thread pointed out by A Team shows the full spectrum of confusion about node counts, 1.403 sorted many problems out.
I've never had a problem, except connectivity distance : 608 factories in 47 complexes so far (68 greatest fac. count in one complex),
but that might be down to my style of building vertical stacks of factories of one 'type' next to stacks of another fac. type.

[jlehtone]

I think the thread pointed out by A Team shows the full spectrum of confusion about node counts, 1.403 sorted many problems out.
I've never had a problem, except connectivity distance : 608 factories in 47 complexes so far (68 greatest fac. count in one complex),
but that might be down to my style of building vertical stacks of factories of one 'type' next to stacks of another fac. type.

I tend to build horizontal, like a snake http://forum2.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php ... t=#1864418.

It is true that 1.4.03 changed things. Before 1.4.03 addition of station into complex did cause CTD, if there were not enough free nodes during or after the addition. This was particularly obvious when one did merge to hubs together. 1.4.03 avoids this problem by creating T-sections into tubes as necessary. So the node-counts do not count any more.

Nodes only affect how the piping looks like. Making a neat looking spaghetti is a game. Optional game. After all, you do not really want to see your huge complex ever again. Framerate.

When you add a station or complex into a complex, all tubes are actually removed, and then the algorithm adds tubing between all the stations (and hub) in the new complex. Nearest nodes are used, or T-sections created as necessary. Thus, every added station can change all existing tubes. All the tubing is "one" object and part of the hub.

If each pipe between two stations would be a separate object, then existing tubes would not change during addition. Logically, the distance limit for one tube would be from the closest station and not from the hub. But, neat addition of a station between two existing ones would require the removal of that pipe. And the number of objects would increase. For the collision detection it is probably better to have one big rather than zillion small obstacles.

[Delta180]

I don't mean to bump an old topic but do you plan on updating this now that v2.0 is out?
This is such a useful program but you can't view the M7 on it

[Deleted User]

Work is underway....

But there's a few additions I'm making other than adjustments for 2.0, so it might be a while longer.

You should be able to view the M3+ and Xenon-LX ships already (& the new Caiman Miner, tho that looks the same as the Hauler) cos they are of a known class, unfortunately the current viewer doesn't know about the M7 class so doesn't list it.

The M7 is the only ship shown in the in-dev new version, that is not shown by the current version.

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I'm getting there

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[Delta180]

Awesome. I hope you can get it finished soon!

[BugMeister]

- indeed, you are both a gentleman and a scholar, sire!!

..simply stunning little prog..!!

[Skeeter]

Any chance this can be developed into a sort of modding tool where you can convert a model (textured) into x3 format from perhaps wavefront obj format and also edit hardpoints with this tool.

Something like what delphy did over at relic forums for homeworld mod tool. HWSE.

[Parazac]

excellent little prgram this, makes it so much easier to compare ships when im lookin to buy something

[Deleted User]

Cheers all,

@Skeeter
Anything is possible but in this case unlikely to happen,
cos the road from viewer to working-mod exporter is a long one.

Anyway there are obviously existing ways & means (if you can get 3DS Max).

So far I've managed to avoid getting too involved in all things mod, mainly
cos I really just wanted to explore & play the game, rather than alter it.

But you never know ...

[I_E_Maverick]

thank you very much! i just found this program and it is very handy. finally a tool for me to see my models without having them installed in the game. this will save me a lot of time!

the b5 mod team bows before the master!

[Gruhn]

how do you gain access to the ships installed with Cycrow's ship installer? If this is already covered sorry I must have missed it when I looked.

[Deleted User]

If you mean ships in ShipCreator.cat, than at present you don't.
This is cos the current ver. of the viewer doesn't read that cat due
to syntax reasons (my code shortcoming not Cycrow's).
Next version probably will, after I've looked more closely at it...
sorry about that.

Could I ask if there are further mod-related questions, that they are posted in the thread in the S/M forum:
http://forum2.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=1664751
this is to avoid this thread (ie the one your reading) becoming
divorced from the forum it's in - thanks.

[DownLiFe]

Hey this thing is really handy! Me being new to X3 and just getting my fleet of super freighters making me money. Time for me to grab a TL and start with some stations! This program greatly helps in deciding what I want for what I want to do with it.

Many thanks.

[Rabid Potatoe]

When it opens I get an error involving mfc71u.dll.
Any way to fix it?

[Deleted User]

mfc71u.dll is part of the install set.
You shouldn't get that sort of message, unless that file has gone missing somehow.

Which directory did you install to (should be the X2/X3 game directory) ?