Goner rankings

[giskard]

Well and anti gonar game will be fun for you, those ships can be sold just like any other

Giskard

[Tritous]

Had to restart I really wanted to go further on the plot so i could get those Khaak co-ords and specs. trying that fantastic beam mod now. Makes dodging bullets impossible, but I can now kill stuff in my disco lol

[giskard]

Hehehe

Mods are cool but dont let them make you lazy, you will regret it later when the big boys come out and play shoot the player.

Giskard

[Tritous]

Already had that. surviving those pirates in the express mission...I mean...yikes? Although the back turret gave them real hell. but I've got far enough through the plot this time to get my goner ranking up. I can risk rebuilding my empire now, no thanks to the goner

[Nanook]

OK, one more time, since the Goner rank question seems to keeping popping up like a bad penny.

From the Argonopedia:

Goner Ranks and Reputation Points

Protector of the Goners....100000
Preacher .........................10000
Honoured Friend................1000
Accepted Member...............100
Trusted Member..................10
Member...............................0
Sceptical Member...............-10
Disloyal Member................-100
Unbeliever.......................-1000
Enemy............................-10000
Enemy of the Goners.......-100000

A long time ago in an X-Universe far, far away, I tested the Goner rankings by purchasing jumpdrives. At the time of the test, I was 0% Trusted Member. So to gain a % point, all I needed was a single reputation point. Since there's always a random element when raising your rank as to how many points you get, I did several tests. What I did was buy a series of jumpdrives, one after the other, and observed the rank increase. On average, it took me 5 jumpdrives to gain one reputation point. That's ~500,000 credits of purchases for one point!

So to go from Trusted Member to Accepted Member, you'd need to purchase ~50 Million credits of merchandise, whether it's jumpdrives, transporter devices, or salvage insurance. So you can imagine how much it will take to raise a single percentage point once you're at Preacher ranking!

Just in case you can't, here it is. Since you're already at Preacher, you've got at least 10,000 points. So a single % to the next ranking, Protector of the Goners, is ~1000 points (1% of 100,000). That's 500 million credits, folks! Now do you understand why you never notice any increase?

And if you really want to see the actual numbers, you need to turn on the script editor (yes, I know, you get that stupid 'Modified' tag. ). Once the script editor is on, just target any Goner ship, get their info screen, and then page down until you see the listing of all the races and their reps with the Goners. Your name will be there, and the first of the two numbers shows the number of rep points you currently have.

I believe that it works the same way when you do something bad to the Goners. It may take a lot of ship capturing to get a single percent drop, but once you get them really mad at you, you can probably forget about transporter devices and salvage insurance for the rest of the game.

[Stu Austin]

I've been done with the plot for months. A couple months ago, my ranking went from 6 to 7. Bought a lot of transporters and jumpdrives.

[Tritous]

you must have spent a lot there then. they'll have solid Nividium altars soon

[Stu Austin]

I've spent quite a bit at the Goner Temple. I've put a transporter and jumpdrive on just about 2/3 of my fleet (did it just for the heck of it). I have not bought salvage insurance in about a year.

[giskard]

Nanook: That does explain it yes.

The game promotes you to preacher if you do the missions. Which means your unlikely to see any change ever during a normal game that could last months.

Its still as good as set in stone.

Let us not forget that even at preach 1 stray shot will cost you nearly 5% in the rank. How much is that 1 stray shot really going to cost you to get the rank back that you have lost ?

Giskard

[Nanook]

Nanook: That does explain it yes.

The game promotes you to preacher if you do the missions. Which means your unlikely to see any change ever during a normal game that could last months.

Its still as good as set in stone.

Let us not forget that even at preach 1 stray shot will cost you nearly 5% in the rank. How much is that 1 stray shot really going to cost you to get the rank back that you have lost ?

Giskard

Let's see. Only about 20,000 jump drives.

[Casper20]

Let us not forget that even at preach 1 stray shot will cost you nearly 5% in the rank. How much is that 1 stray shot really going to cost you to get the rank back that you have lost ?

What are you talking about? I've destroyed half a dozen Goner ships and I'm still Goner Preacher 6%. My rating didn't go down at all.

[giskard]

Casper: depends on how you do it, theres a trick that allows you to shoot them delibrately and not suffer any rankloss at all. Not a bug either im told.

Casually shooting a pirate and hitting a Gonar is usually where you suffer the rank loss. Eg the accidental hits.

Giskard

[The Shadow Wolf]

So has anyone figured out how to increase the rank with the Goners or is it still hyperthetical???

[mrbadger]

Are the Gonar ranks of any use anyway?

frankly no, at least not yet. Once you can buy salvage insurance, jumpdrives and teleporters that's it.

[yourpowersareweakoldman]

Yes they are, if you start as Humble Merchant, you're a "Goner Skeptic" 50% And you can't buy Transporters or Jumpdrives.

[jeffkretz]

Well, if you have a decent argon rank you can at least buy the jumpdrives at Terracorp.

JK

[instayll]

Yes, of course. If you want to dock at the UFO Station (In order to buy all sorts o cool stuff you will NEVER find anywhere else in the game) you must be at least Goner Protector of the Truth, or something above that.

[pjknibbs]

This thread is more than a year and a half old! Please don't dredge up ancient threads like this.