Isolate any codec issues to help with crashes and performance issues.

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Sat, 26. Nov 05, 16:55

Oh, I just finished replying to you in another thread, I recognize the activemovie mention

Anyway, I posted ideas there so won't duplicate here. Music looping is very indicative, of where the focus should be. I would suggest the basic things like a media player reinstall, but very likely there is a file version mismatch that's not as easy to fix by reinstalling DX9 or MP, but if we get to that road we can cross it later.

Mikes78 · Post by **Mikes78** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 00:36

yeh , i did update to media player 10 actually, since someone in another thread suggested it helped him some........

i played for 30 minutes and already was happy ...... then boom

crash again.... and now i t s back to crashing every odd minute again when using seta so the 30 mins was prolly just a fluke /sigh

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 01:51

Mikes78 wrote:yeh , i did update to media player 10 actually, since someone in another thread suggested it helped him some........

i played for 30 minutes and already was happy ...... then boom crash again.... and now i t s back to crashing every odd minute again when using seta so the 30 mins was prolly just a fluke /sigh

Well, all game bugs aside, many issues are due to directshow filter merits and file mismatching of drivers, DX9, and Media Player and I'm betting your issue is one of those. Hopefully you read this thread in some detail and did the basics already. If you ran Driver Cleaner and reinstalled drivers then verify that you have the proper file versions of Media Player 10. Here is how you can verify file versions quickly.

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR MEDIA PLAYER 10 FILE VERSIONS:
Open Windows Explorer, browse to windows\system32\dllcache
(Make sure you go to Tools\Folder options, and check show hidden files and uncheck hide extensions and hide protected files.) Now you should be able to see everything.
Right click in a blank area of the the right pane, click view and click on details.
In the right pane, right click on the heading where it says name, size, type. At the bottom of the list that opens, select 'more'. Scroll down and check "File Version". Now the file version shows up and if you click on the "File Version" header it will sort files by file version.
If you see any of the following files in this picture at a version lower than the one in the picture, then THAT is a problem.

Here is the picture of how the windows media files should appear with Media player 10 installed, in the DllCache:
Windows Media 10 versions

Dllcache is Windows FileProtection that overwrites your windows\system32 files with these and if they are older than the program files being installed that is a problem. In that case you will have to get the proper version files from extracting the windows media installer to a temporary folder.

You will then need to manually copy the "appropriate" version 10 files "in this order" to:
windows\system32\dllcache
windows\system32

NOTE: Do not install any additional files into DLLCache that don't already exist there.

Then repeat the file copy in that order. Refresh the folders and check that File protection actually allowed the file copy to take, and that the new version 10 file is in both "windows\system32" and "windows\system32\dllcache". If it didn't allow the copy, repeat the file copying until Windows accepts the new versions without reverting it back to the old files.

If you see any other files in DLLcache that are still version 9.0.0.2980 OR 9.00.00.3250 they should be updated from the Windows Media 10 extracted files.

Finally if you checked this over and found no other media player 9 files and it didn't fix your issue then the DX9c uninstall, and reinstall from the CD/DVD may be the way to go.

I am also including the proper DX9c file versions list here for future reference. If any of the following files exist in DLLCache are an older version they also need to be replaced with the proper version from an extracted DX9c. Happy DirectX Uninstall and reinstalling should fix this problem, but JUST IN CASE here are the versions anyway. Do the copying, as shown above, to dllcache then system32 and repeat in that order until the new files replace the old.

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DirectX Components (Directx 9.0c (August) WITH XP SP2 .2180)
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:42 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:42 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:42 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:42 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:50 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:50 18432 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:04 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:04 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:50 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 159232 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 35328 bytes
gameenum.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:08:22 10624 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 82432 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 8/23/2001 09:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:48 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:42 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1125 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 498205 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 148992 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 10.00.0000.3646 English Final Retail 9/22/2004 18:46:02 221184 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 385024 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:26 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2508 English Final Retail 8/31/2004 11:33:24 1287680 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3928 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 246302 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:15:22 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:08:04 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:40 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:42 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:42 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 22:58:42 4352 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 118272 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 1428480 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:46 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:48 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
NVIDIA Video Post Processor,0x00200000,1,1,nvvpp.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
NVIDIA Cd Audio Reader,0x00200000,0,1,NvCdaRdr.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,10.00.0000.3646
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
NVIDIA TS Info Parser,0x00200000,1,1,nvtsinfo.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
NVIDIA Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,nvauddec.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.2180
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
NVIDIA Video Decoder,0x00800001,2,3,nvviddec.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
NVIDIA Transport Demux,0x00800101,1,2,nvtrpdemux.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2600.2180
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.0005.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
NVIDIA MultiSource Filter,0x00000000,0,1,NvMultiSource.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,
IVF source filter,0x00600000,0,1,ivfsrc.ax,5.10.0002.0051
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Lyric Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,10.00.0000.3646
NVIDIA Navigator,0x00600000,0,3,nvnav.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
NVIDIA ATSC File,0x00200000,0,1,nvatscfile.ax,4020.185.0000.0000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Windows Media Pad VU Data Grabber,0x00600000,1,0,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0001
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
ShotBoundaryDet,0x00200000,1,1,wmmfilt.dll,1.01.2427.0001
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180

Video Compressors:
WMVideo Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Fraps Video Decompressor,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508

Audio Capture Sources:
SB Audigy Audio [AC00],0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
MPU-401,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
SB Audigy MIDI IO [AC00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
SB Audigy Sw Synth [AC00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
SB Audigy Synth A [AC00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
SB Audigy Synth B [AC00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
SB Audigy MIDI IO [AC00],0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy Audio [AC00],0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
SB Audigy DirectMusic Synthesizer [AC00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy Sw Synth [AC00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy Synth A [AC00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy Synth B [AC00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy MIDI IO [AC00],0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy Audio [AC00],0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00200000,2,2,,5.03.2600.2180

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,

Audio Renderers:
SB Audigy Audio [AC00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508
DirectSound: SB Audigy Audio [AC00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2508

mattius · Post by **mattius** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 11:37

Strange, I have Windows Media Player 10 installed but do not have Dllcache dir in c:\windows\system32. I have ticked the show hidden all files & folders box?

andrewrw · Post by **andrewrw** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 13:23

So it looks like we the consumers are now doing all the programming for Egosoft. I can't believe that I have to go through all this just to get this game to play (which I don't intend to btw)

Vanarion · Post by **Vanarion** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 13:27

Did you uncheck "hide protected files"?

mattius · Post by **mattius** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 13:41

Vanarion wrote:Did you uncheck "hide protected files"?

I have ticked the show hidden all files & folders box as previously stated!!

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Sun, 27. Nov 05, 22:05

mattius wrote:Strange, I have Windows Media Player 10 installed but do not have Dllcache dir in c:\windows\system32. I have ticked the show hidden all files & folders box?

It's a hidden system folder by default in XP...
Set the option under "hidden files and folders" to "show hidden files and folders" and...
then uncheck "hide extensions for known file types"
and uncheck "hide protected operating system files"
Also make sure "display the contents of system folders" is checked.

That should do it.

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 8. Dec 05, 12:02

Official bump to bring this back to page 1.

Sergius64 · Post by **Sergius64** » Tue, 13. Dec 05, 04:50

Installing the Ace Codec Pack solved my voice problems.

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Tue, 13. Dec 05, 11:11

That approach works for some, then there's music, movies, sound effects. It doesn't always work because it is trying to treat the symptoms not the cause like addressing the cough, when an antibiotic is needed for a bronchial infection. It may work until some newer codecs get loaded that take priority over them, from anything like creative software, PowerDVD, and a host of other apps.

But at times all people want is to try a quick simple fix for codec issues, so it is good to have it in the thread.

Datamestonic · Post by **Datamestonic** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 11:31

Shouldn't this thread get a sticky? I'm another user who recently bought a ridiculously expensive computer followed shortly by X3 and experiences horrid frame rates in this game even on lowest graphical settings. It's bad enough that this issue hasn't been resolved yet through a patch, but having to look hard to find information like this doesn't make much sense... I haven't actually tried any of the ideas in here but I plan to.

hansie · Post by **hansie** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 14:01

Thanks for the research MadBoris!

Another thread (CTD while switching targets) pointed to here and it seemed the codes was indeed my problem. Or I hope it was:

I finally managed to get the CTD consistent. After loading and undocking I just had to:
- 'target nearest enemy'. No enemies around so crossraid turned red with searching LEDs.
- 'target next object' a few times and BOOM, I see the window border of X3 and it crashes.
- sometimes had to do it a few times, but could get it crashed within 10 seconds of undocking

I tried that procedure about a dozen times, everytime messing with the codecs (running other sound drivers, installing media palayer 10), putting Windows and Microsoft codes at the top, running those tools setting the priority higher, rebooting at each step).

Last step I did was uninstall Media player 10 and removing the Media player codec from the list (standard windows configuration screen: properties of audio codecs). Reboot, restart and I can't get it to crash.

At least I hope that was the solution..I'll post again if it does crash again.

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 15:00

You say you uninstalled MP10, you mean you rolled back to 9, did you then reinstall it?

From my experience rolling back to 9, rolls back only some file but not all.

hansie · Post by **hansie** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 16:01

nha, removed it. I guess removing it leaves stuff (it left the codec).

Worked for a while, but now have the same problem

It beats me where the Media Player Codec came from, I just installed 10 again and official version 9 codec pack. Both had no effect (that particular codec didn't return and those actions didn't fix my prob either).

I'll reread your post. Maybe it'll start to make sense someday.

Jokey77 · Post by **Jokey77** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 16:06

I will bump this up too by sayin a big "thank you" to madboris...
So much spent effort on solving the issue... and even more effort to make this accessible to the community... good guy

in a couple of days I will get my new graphic card and if the patch is not out by then I propably will have to follow your instructions ;P

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 18:04

Reinstalling Media Player 10 should not require the version 9 codec pack. If it's the same media 9 codec pack I'm thinking of, it's actually comprised of mainly Media 10 files even though it's called 9.

Once you have 10 you don't want anything that says 9 anymore to avoid possible file mismatching issues, however improbable.

Before the holiday weekend there will be a tool available that will clarify and simplify things tremendously, although I am having to cut alot of features to make my deadline so some people can play over there holiday time, when codec issues stand in their way.

hansie · Post by **hansie** » Sun, 18. Dec 05, 21:17

Enough horror for today

Tried removing and reinstalling 10 and verifying versions, but no luck. Also some other stuff, like messing with the order and and those merits.

Not getting very optimistic atm and wished i returned the game.

Anyway, thanks again for your help

I'll probably just store it for a while. Don't have the energy anymore to blow off steam here (not that it'll do any good).

Only good thing that came out is a verification of the reason i mainly buy console games.

ONE more thing: is there a way to completely turn off sound? I'd like to verify that sound indeed is the problem.

MadBoris · Post by **MadBoris** » Mon, 19. Dec 05, 00:06

Disabling it from the device manager is probably not sufficient.
Removing a soundcard probably work, but I haven't verified what X3 actually does or doesn't do in that case.

But if you also rename the soundtrack and mov folders I know it won't open those files and a large amount of directshow filters, start a new game and just fly around a system and target things and see what happens. That's what I suggest to rule out sound issues. Some have said that renaming those folders causes them crashes but not sure if you just fly around a system and target things.

hansie · Post by **hansie** » Mon, 19. Dec 05, 11:18

Hmm, going to operate.

About soundtrack folder, renaming the soundtrack folder was one of the first things I tried. Still had CTD. Re-encoded them as well (wonder why I even tried that.

I wonder if it's the dynamic voiceover (the target identification), as it always seem to be when switching targets. Perhaps it uses a different codec? I guess those would be handled by directsounds instead of directshow, no?

It happens on a variety of targetting: ships, stations, gates. input device doesn't seem the matter either (keyb, mouse, joystick).

EDIT:
Sheesh, that filemon utility is pretty sweet. A crapload of errors by starting up X3. Ofcourse most are for trying to access a dll in the current directory and then switching to the windows directory. Could I just put a filter on X3 and then play till CTD? Wonder how big it'll get and if it would be of any use to me.

egosoft.com

egosoft.com

Isolate any codec issues to help with crashes and performance issues.