Graphical glitch / ghosts of buttons below speed bar

Creston · Post by **Creston** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 02:36

Ego,

I love the game, but this graphical glitch is driving me batty (I'll post a screenshot a bit later, my screenshots folder seems to have gone haywire).
Basically, everytime after you've docked with a station and read the BBS, a part of the BBS stays onscreen, below your speed control almost near the bottom. This becomes an area of graphical corruption, and it will vary in looks from either being completely black (which I could live with), but as soon as text appears over it, it will keep displaying the last text that was on top of it.
This is HIDEOUSLY annoying. First of all it completely ruptures immersion while you're flying around, and second, it's gotten so large (I currently have three overlapping such graphical glitches) that it blocks out all the menu text.

Reloading my saved game doesn't help, the corruption is apparently saved with the game (good system, that...). I started over to see what was causing it, and had it back within fifteen minutes.

This is also mentioned in the Patch Suggestions for 1.3 thread. Now, I'm sure that you guys would fix it in patch 1.3, but I'm going to assume that's quite a few months away. Any chance for a hotfix??

If you need a saved game so you can see it, just let me know. I'll put up a screenshot in a bit.

Creston

Edit : Changed title. Everyone who suffers from this, please post.

MILLANDSON · Post by **MILLANDSON** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 02:37

Yea, my game has only just started doing this. It isn't the worst thing that could have happened, but it is slightly irritating. Could this PLEASE be sorted?

Many thanks

EDIT: Patch 1.3 is supposed to be coming out mid-November, not in a few monthes time, so you shouldn't have to wait long.

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 02:40

1. Moved to Tech Support. You are lucky I even saw this.
2. This is the first report I've seen of this. Please post a screenshot.
3. It has already been stated that patch 1.3 will be released in mid-November, not "months away".
4. Whether this is "fixed" in any patch will depend on whether this is a game problem or something that is unique to you and therefore a problem with your PC. Until we see it, it is going to difficult to tell which it is.

Creston · Post by **Creston** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 02:51

CBJ wrote:1. Moved to Tech Support. You are lucky I even saw this.
2. This is the first report I've seen of this. Please post a screenshot.
3. It has already been stated that patch 1.3 will be released in mid-November, not "months away".
4. Whether this is "fixed" in any patch will depend on whether this is a game problem or something that is unique to you and therefore a problem with your PC. Until we see it, it is going to difficult to tell which it is.

1) D'oh, my bad.

2) I'm currently trying. Is there any way to resize and reformat those .tga screenshots? Photobucket isn't enjoying those 3MB shots a lot it seems...
Btw, not to imply anything, but I've seen at least four different people mention this problem already in various threads. Obviously that's not a great indicator, but I'm definitely not the first guy to suffer from this.

3) No offense intended.

4) Well, seeing as how another person has already posted in this thread saying he has the same issue, I'm gonna hazard a guess this isn't something just related to me.

I'm still trying on those screenshots...

Creston

Rushyo · Post by **Rushyo** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 02:58

I've had the same problem with tooltips rather than the BBS. On both machines. Both running the latest catalyst drivers, totally different sound and monitor hardware. Specs in sig.

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 02:59

The tooltips are a known issue, posted in numerous other threads.

Rushyo · Post by **Rushyo** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 03:00

CBJ wrote:The tooltips are a known issue, posted in numerous other threads.

Ah okay. Want me to see if the same thing happens with my BBS? The glitch sounds identical.

EDIT: Nope couldn't replicate it. It just sounded like the same problem with a different window.

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 03:01

Feel free to try it, but it isn't the same problem unless the description is inaccurate and this is actually another "stuck" tooltip.

Creston · Post by **Creston** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 03:08

Ok, here we go on those shots :
Edit : Photobucket automatically resizes the shots, so it may be a bit hard to see, sorry

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/ ... n00010.gif

This is a shot showing how the buttons change their text depending on what text is currently showing. I'm hovering over the Quit button, and so the corruption is showing the quit button. It also shows how the rest of the area is just black, like I mentioned in my original post. Sometimes when I load a savegame after just coming back to the game (ie, starting the game, then loading the savegame), all the corruption is black. This only lasts until the next button I hover over, it seems.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/ ... n00005.gif

Here you can see how the corruption remains in screen even after leaving the station, with the same button I last hit (in this case, obviously, the undock from station button).
Goodbye immersion

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/ ... n00009.gif

Here you can see that the corruption stays even if you hide the rest of the HUD.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/ ... n00003.gif

Some more shots of the corruption changing depending on the buttons.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c185/ ... n00006.gif

And another, this time with the manage property button.

I can make more shots if you wish, or if they are hard to see, email me at creston at cox dot net, and I'll be happy to send the original shots to you, or a savegame if you need it.

Thanks for looking into this

Creston

Edit : If this is a known issue with the tooltips, like what you are saying, then I'm sorry for bringing it up. I haven't seen a thread in which it says it's currently scheduled for patching...
Thanks again for looking into this CBJ.

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 03:12

Yes, this is the tooltip problem again. You described it as a problem with the BBS in your original post, which confused me.

Creston · Post by **Creston** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 03:14

Final remarks :

Twice that I've tried it, it's happened AFTER I first read the BBS, which is why I called it an issue with the BBS. If I dock somewhere and don't read the BBS, it doesn't seem to come up.

The number of corruptions keeps growing. It started with one, then two, and when I made these shots I had four distinctly different areas of corruption (they're all the same size, and they're now two side by side, on two different heights).

I'll see if reading more BBS adds even more of these corruptions.

Creston

Creston · Post by **Creston** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 03:15

CBJ wrote:Yes, this is the tooltip problem again. You described it as a problem with the BBS in your original post, which confused me.

Ahh okay. The reason I called it a BBS problem was because I'm certain it started after reading the BBS.

Sorry about bringing this up again...

Creston

finkybot · Post by **finkybot** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 09:31

Guys, I find that if yas dont bring up the tooltips when saving the game the tooptip corruptions. will not appear, aka try using your keyboard to access the save options and not your mouse.

bigmac · Post by **bigmac** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 09:39

Guys ,

I had the same issue.... but i resolved it:

download the patch again.. they made a change since the first release.

reapply it onto X3.

Now the sad thing.. you have to delete your old save games as it seems to be saved in there.

when i loaded one of my old games i still had the error...

when i started a new game it was gone....also the new save was fine

So delete the save games and the auto save games ......

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 13:12

Reapplying the patch did nothing for you, bigmac. The problem arises when a tooltip is onscreen when you save a game--so long as you make sure there are NO tooltips onscreen when you save, the problem will never occur! I think you'll find that if you deliberately bring up a tooltip and save the game while it's onscreen the problem will return when you reload the saved game.

SieurNewT · Post by **SieurNewT** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 13:35

humm any way to have a script command to clear up theses tooltips windows ? i beleive it should be possible... i have them on all my savegames and prefer not starting again the game from scratch

If also you could say me what is the exact option to disable in settings in order not having new tooltips windows adding to my 4 ones...

bigmac · Post by **bigmac** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 22:03

sorry pjknibbs,

have to disapoint you... i tried purposly to save a game with the tool tips showing and its not appearing anymore..... the reapply of the patch fixed it for me....

I anyway use the mouse interface, and it normally already happened when i was just passing over the different names that the tooltip created the black boxes.... now its gone.... but thanks for telling me what my problem was and that its not fixed.......

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Graphical glitch / ghosts of buttons below speed bar

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