x3 started crashing all of a sudden. Any tips?

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Wed, 2. Nov 05, 08:59

Im playing x3 1.2 I have played around 3 playing time days and i havent had any crashes except one i think was because of anti virus updating or something......But yesterday it all started....I am at mission 12 i think

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the one with the nvidium scans

and i saved in mines ....all of a sudden i cant load that save...the game crashes and tells me that x3.exe genereated an error.

ok i thought ..not bad...one bad savegame...so i loaded another autsave...which worked great.....i got to empires mines again and it worked great i saved and loaded again later...it loaded wel...but all of a sudden my game now crashes when i push return.....this happened to all my saves doing that mission...so i though ok ill load an older game and not do the mission for a while....all went well again..return butten worked.......then i pushed pause....and....the game crashed.... (yes i tried restarting my computer several times)

Now im wondering whats going on? i have had NO problems since i gotten the game frieday and all of a sudden i get a lot now....should i try reinstalling my game? if so where is the save games...saved?

All help will be highly appriciated

/Tass

Cyberdine · Post by **Cyberdine** » Wed, 2. Nov 05, 11:32

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=96786 Just incase you did not see this, maybe this is the cause of the problem, Is mission 12 the final one ?

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Wed, 2. Nov 05, 12:04

Cyberdine wrote:http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=96786 Just incase you did not see this, maybe this is the cause of the problem, Is mission 12 the final one ?

Yes That one i have seen

but thank you so much

No I belive mission 14 is the final chapter but its rather hard counting the missions

but i know for sure its not the final one though

and its not just the mission thats the problem its the game itself all of a sudden...if its the mission that triggered it i do not know.

Cyberdine · Post by **Cyberdine** » Wed, 2. Nov 05, 14:54

My freind had a problem with random crash`s, He turned off his Windows Automatic Updates, And so far he hasn`t had a crash. Could be luck but worth checking out. Hope it helps

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Wed, 2. Nov 05, 22:59

Thank you

i will try that..the strange thing is though it started yesterday....i have played the game more or less constant since friday

so I kinda doubt its windows update but as you said ...its deffinately worth a try

gpz1100 · Post by **gpz1100** » Wed, 2. Nov 05, 23:54

You havent turned up the gamma setting to brighten things up a bit have you. I had a few crashed early on but I suddenly started getting a lot more when I turned the gamme up. Turned it right down again and haven't had a single one. So now It doesnt crsh but I cant see WTF I'm doing

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 07:03

gpz1100 wrote:You havent turned up the gamma setting to brighten things up a bit have you. I had a few crashed early on but I suddenly started getting a lot more when I turned the gamme up. Turned it right down again and haven't had a single one. So now It doesnt crsh but I cant see WTF I'm doing

No not that either

I added subtitles but i removed those again and still crashes...now im trying to reinstall it. I hope its the game and not the save games

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 09:04

So reinstalling did NOT work....i reinstalled both game and 1.2 patch and it still crashes....now im starting to think its a lot of my savegames thats messed up. Im trying an older game at the moment with no crashes but i did not play long and I am at work now. I hope its "just" the save games but I hope its not all as i dont want to start all over

....Its strange crashes...its when i somehow use the interface it seems...pushing escape it crashes...pushing sector map it crashes..pushing pause it crashes....pushing return to get into the interface..it crahes.

Is there anyway that egosoft could use the log file winxp makes when it crashes? or?

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 11:19

No, but please keep hold of at least one of the savegames you have that crashes as we may need to ask you for it at some point for testing purposes.

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 15:10

Yes sir i will do that

thank you

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 17:11

Oddly enough mine's started crashing to. I've had many many hours of play without a single problem.

I loaded a save game where I was in Argon Prime and as soon as I use the mouse to click on a station or ship icon around the edge of the screen it throws me back to the desktop.

I reloaded saved games from eariler where I certainly had no such problems and it's doing it with those to now!

Very strange indeed, nothing else has changed on my system, it's been used purely for X3 since I got it. I have a 2nd machine for the internet.

Confused, it was all going soo well

I'll keep a copy of the save, but I'm going to uninstall/reinstall X3 now in case something has become corrupted.

Scoob.

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 18:02

Scoob wrote:Oddly enough mine's started crashing to. I've had many many hours of play without a single problem.

I loaded a save game where I was in Argon Prime and as soon as I use the mouse to click on a station or ship icon around the edge of the screen it throws me back to the desktop.

I reloaded saved games from eariler where I certainly had no such problems and it's doing it with those to now!

Very strange indeed, nothing else has changed on my system, it's been used purely for X3 since I got it. I have a 2nd machine for the internet.

Confused, it was all going soo well

I'll keep a copy of the save, but I'm going to uninstall/reinstall X3 now in case something has become corrupted.

Scoob.

This is more or less the same kind of problem i have...2 and a half day of gametime without problems and now all my saves started crashing....i found a "i thought" non crash game ..worked great for like 2 hours with saving and loading but now it crashes too

...i tried the reinstalling of both game and update with no luck...problem is i have not tried a compleatly new game...and im not sure i want to either *at least not before i KNOW this does not happen again*

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 18:28

I found a previous "good" save game too, tried everything, clicking, saving, communicating with ships - all the things that crashed my more recent saves - it worked just fine.

I proceeded to keep playing, saving often with no problems til the game crashed when I com'd a ship.

I reloaded one of my recent saves (the game had been working fine) and now that point in the game doesn't work any more.

It looks like something's getting corrupted in some way, finding it's way into our saved games, then failing when we load.

Scoob.

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Thu, 3. Nov 05, 19:12

I've just tracked back to where I started getting problems with X3 having experienced NO crashes before that.

I was in split fire attempting to capure a Paranid High Tech Transport Nova to add to my fledgling fleet

When I got close I chose to use some salvage insurance and save in space in case I died in the capture attempt. Well, I took a bit of a pounding so reloaded and that's when I started to get the odd problem that's just got worse and worse.

So, in conclusion, I think it might be a problem with re-loading a saved game where you've used salvage insurance as it was directly after that load that I started to get problems. I though it was just a one-off glitch at the time, but maybe not.

Scoob.

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Fri, 4. Nov 05, 01:20

Well been playing just fine for hours today since reverting to that older save.

Thing is I've just started getting problems again - once more starting in Split Fire after a capture and strangely effecting previous saves once more that were just fine.

Being paranoid after my previous CTDs I'd be checking saves after having made them, regularly doing all the little things that had caused the game to crash - everything was just fine.

I was just following a TS in Split Fire, pressed Return to bring up the menu so I could scan him and it CTD'd. Obviously I'd been doing scans a lot recently while capturing, saving after each capture and not reloading if they failed. It had been working fine up to this point, but once again reloading previous saves causes the CTD to happen back then to, when it originally didn't!

Just plain weird this one.

*Edit* These crashes simply don't happen if the HUD is off!

Scoob.

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Fri, 4. Nov 05, 07:02

Really with no hud? I need to tjeck up on that on my system......you sound to have the same problems as me...return...escape....pause...sector map...or just plain loading the game...I do not know what CTDs are? but I am starting to get very worried

I was thinking of deleting my save games compleatly and starting a new game...but thats like 5 days of work...and it would suck if it still happens which i am rather sure it will

...right now x3 is unplayable.....and that is sad as although i dont find it a number 3 game...I still love it so its sad...I hope that 1.3 fixes it ...but this is far off.

Im curious scoob what system to do you have? anything that resembles my system?

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Fri, 4. Nov 05, 07:36

It does seem you are right about the hud...just played a bit without it and it ran smoothly...as soon as i turned on the hud one time..crash

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Fri, 4. Nov 05, 13:16

I don't think it's the HUD its self causing my game to Crash To Desktop, rather the mini-monitor component. Like I can have my HUD on, but if I target a ship via the sector map (i.e. mini-monitor NOT shown while in sector map view) it works just fine. However, exiting the sectors map (which causes the mini-monitor to display once more) causes the crash.

I've read of loads of people with a similar problem, often starting when they fire missiles - by default a 2nd mini-monitor automatically displays any missile you launch, co-incidence? Hmmm, don't think so. Never experienced that particular one myself as I turned off the 2nd monitor right away.

I'm sort of playing a very different game at the moment cos I really don't want to lose all the progress I've made, or re-do some of the plot missions. Basically, NO combat, cos I can't use the HUD, no plot missions either. Gonna try and place a few more factories, should be able to do that hopefully or maybe just explore a bit. I'm really banking on 1.3 fixing this, if it doesn't I'll have no choice but to re-start though I may script in some extra cash and reputation so I can be almost where I was before. Really hate doing it, but I'd started to build up a good fighter fleet and two productive factories, as well as having progressed a reasonable way through the plot. Just don't want to lose this.

My system specs:

AMD 64 3500+
1gb Corsair Fast Dual Channel memory
2x120gb fast Maxtor SATA drives (RAID 0)
BFG 6800gt o/c 256mb
Soundblaster Audigy 2
Windows XP Pro with SP2
Forceware 81.85 (was using 78.01 - no difference noticed)
Latest Creative SB drivers, NOT the Beta ones

Nothing over-clocked obove defaults here.

A final note: The game, when it's stable, plays really well. Slightly juddery in some of the most heavily populated sectors but nothing unacceptable.

Scoob.

tass_bur · Post by **tass_bur** » Fri, 4. Nov 05, 13:35

I feel the same way...im kinda counting on it being fixed in 1.3 ...as there seems to be more and more people with the problem now they have played the game a lot....its funny its not starting til you gotten pretty far into the game....

I dont know if its the monitor thing....maybe so...havent gotten that far

but strange it JUST started....

so AMD and Nvidia card? Im using Intel and Nvidia...some other guy on forums is too....but i doubt thats the reason....dont know though

i really hope they get it fixed because i miss playing it without the constant nagging and fear of it all crashing.

hox · Post by **hox** » Fri, 4. Nov 05, 13:51

I've started having the same problem , 3 or 4 days of playing time it was fine and now its CTD whenever I press return or escape - or target anything.

I've not done any plot missions so its not that either, all of my recent savegames are having the same problem

really annoying that its started to happen out of the blue