Vanilla X3AP 1.1: Terran stations = v low FPS. Confirmed not system issue with save.

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betc
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Vanilla X3AP 1.1: Terran stations = v low FPS. Confirmed not system issue with save.

Post by betc »

Hey guys,

just wondering if this is by design;
I have built a large Terran complex factory loop. to start with, it had 19 Terran protein and TMSC factories.

when i enter the sector my FPS drops to about 3 fps. Normally you can just face your ship away from the complex and its fine but with these Terran factories its always 3 fps.

I have a 120 Chip complex in barren shores where the FPS is heaps faster even when facing the factory.

Should this be happening? I have turned all the detail to minimum, faced away from the factories and it will not budge from ~3FPS.
I understand the Terran factories are big, highly detailed but this just doesn't make sense.

The rest of the game runs beautifully smooth.
Running Vanilla Steam X3AP:
Hardware: i7 920XM, 5870m, 16GB ram
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Post by CBJ »

A full [url=http://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/faq_answer_en.php?answer=610&version=8][b]DX[/b][b]D[/b]iag[/url] report, as requested in the very first thread in this forum, would be a lot more useful than a brief list of parts.

However I think it's quite likely that those very large and complex Terran stations really are taking you to the performance limit. If turning away doesn't help then you may find that flying further away, until you are well outside the area occupied by the stations, may do to some extent.
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Post by betc »

i will post the DX im just at work atm and finally remembered to post.

i will try and fly away as well

Cheers
ooxx
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Post by ooxx »

I have exactly the same issue(X3AP vanilla). In sector "Mines of Fortune", you just build all of the silicon/ore terran mine, you will see loooooow-FPS.
(EDIT: NO, I was wrong, Not the mines, see my next reply.)

And sorry about my English, I hope you can understand what am I saying. :P

My dxdiag report:

Code: Select all

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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/18/2012, 06:47:39
       Machine name: EINSTEIN4
   Operating System: Windows 7 旗舰版 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: Chinese (Simplified) (Regional Setting: Chinese (Simplified))
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/23/09 21:14:18 Ver: 08.00.14
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
          Page File: 2428MB used, 5759MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series        
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9440)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_0502174B&REV_00
     Display Memory: 2296 MB
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       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
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        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,
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        DDI Version: 10.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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       D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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            Description: 扬声器 (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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        Manufacturer ID: 1
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                   Type: WDM
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/7/2011 17:39:06, 2914408 bytes
            Other Files: 
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         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
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              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Realtek Digital Output(RCA) (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_104382FE&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
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                   Type: WDM
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/7/2011 17:39:06, 2914408 bytes
            Other Files: 
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         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_104382FE&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
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                   Type: WDM
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            Other Files: 
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              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
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              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: 立体声混音 (Realtek High Definition Audio)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6410 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/7/2011 17:39:06, 2914408 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
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            Description: 麦克风 (Realtek High Definition Audio)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6410 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/7/2011 17:39:06, 2914408 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: 鼠标
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: 键盘
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x3A36
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ PS/2 标准键盘
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| 
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| 
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x001C
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| 
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 81.0 GB
Total Space: 135.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD10EADX-00TDHB0 ATA Device

      Drive: D:
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      Drive: E:
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File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD10EADX-00TDHB0 ATA Device

      Drive: G:
      Model: DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (Chinese (Simplified)), , 0 bytes

      Drive: I:
      Model: DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (Chinese (Simplified)), , 0 bytes

      Drive: F:
      Model: TWVANG 52FGHAJ4 SCSI CdRom Device
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      Drive: H:
      Model: TWVANG 52FGHAJ4 SCSI CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (Chinese (Simplified)), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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     Name: High Definition Audio 控制器
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_82FE1043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A34
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&SUBSYS_82D41043&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller(NDIS6.20)
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A3C
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 系列 SMBus 控制器 - 3A30
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     Name: LSI 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3A3A
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     Name: AWUEJGXY IDE Controller
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     Name: 标准双通道 PCI IDE 控制器
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A39
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     Name: 标准双通道 PCI IDE 控制器
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     Name: 标准双通道 PCI IDE 控制器
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A38
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10R LPC 接口控制器 - 3A16
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     Name: High Definition Audio 控制器
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A37
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     Name: Intel(R) 4 系列芯片集 PCI Express 根端口 - 2E21
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     Name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series        
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     Name: Intel(R) 4 系列芯片集处理器到 I/O 控制器 - 2E20
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     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 系列 PCI Express 根端口 1 - 3A40
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   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A35
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     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
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DirectShow Filters
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SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MMACE ProcAmp,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
WavPack Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSDecoder.ax,1.01.0000.0484
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MONOGRAM AMR Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MONOGRAM Musepack Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mmmpcdec.ax,0.09.0002.0000
Haali Media Splitter,0x00800001,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Haali Media Splitter (AR),0x00400000,1,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
File Source (Monkey Audio),0x00400000,0,1,MonkeySource.ax,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
madFlac Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,madFlac.ax,1.10.0000.0000
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Haali Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,dxr.dll,
MPC - RealMedia Source,0x00600000,0,0,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.05.0002.3447
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
MMACE SoftEmu,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Simple Media Splitter,0x00200000,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
DirectVobSub,0x00200000,2,1,vsfilter.dll,1.05.0002.3447
MPC - RealAudio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.05.0002.3447
DirectVobSub (auto-loading version),0x00800002,2,1,vsfilter.dll,1.05.0002.3447
MONOGRAM AMR Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MMACE DeInterlace,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Haali Matroska Muxer,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MONOGRAM AMR Mux,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
DC-Bass Source,0x00400000,0,1,DCBassSource.ax,1.03.0000.0000
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3947.0000
LAV Splitter Source,0x00400001,0,1,LAVSplitter.ax,0.30.0000.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VP7 Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,vp7dec.ax,7.00.0010.0000
MONOGRAM Musepack Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,mmmpcdmx.ax,0.04.0000.0000
madFlac Source,0x00600000,0,1,madFlac.ax,1.10.0000.0000
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WavPack Audio Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSSplitter.ax,1.01.0000.0323
ffdshow subtitles filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3947.0000
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
MPC - RealMedia Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,RealMediaSplitter.ax,1.05.0002.3447
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
LAV Audio Decoder,0x00400001,1,1,LAVAudio.ax,0.30.0000.0000
Haali Video Sink,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
AC3File,0x00600000,0,1,ac3file.ax,
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink 转换程序,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3947.0000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV 编码解码器,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV 编码解码器,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Xvid MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Helix YV12 YUV Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AC-3 ACM Codec,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Capture Sources:
立体声混音 (Realtek High Definition ,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
麦克风 (Realtek High Definition Au,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Audio CD input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HDA SPDIF RCA Out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink 转换程序,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
扬声器 (Realtek High Definition Au,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output(RCA) (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: 扬声器 (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Realtek Digital Output(RCA) (Re,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) 
  Quality Flags: 2576
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow half deinterlace
    Allow scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 100
  Balanced Flags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 50
  PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 0
And there is a 64-bit dxdiag report, need post it here?
Last edited by ooxx on Sat, 18. Feb 12, 03:10, edited 6 times in total.
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Post by ooxx »

NONONO, not the Mines, I think I found where the problem is:

The Terran USC Food Supply Factory & The Terran Protein Paste Blending Facility!!

In my game, there are 42 USC Food Supply Factories and 42 Protein Paste Blending Facilities, Before those 84 stations, the FPS is normal!

If need my save game, I can upload it somewhere :)
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Post by ooxx »

ANOTHER TEST:

In sector Mines of Fortune, you just build 30 "USC Food Supply Factory L"(use "Hephaistos Corp. Station Building Service" in Bonus Package)(with no need for link them), the FPS is low abnormal.

:)
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Post by Alan Phipps »

@ ooxx: Post a link to a vanilla save and we can take a look and confirm or eliminate system & set-up involvement. Thanks.

About your DxDiag (the 32 bit one is fine for now), it shows Ffdshow and Haali codecs that need barring for X3TC and X3AP (or totally removing) and you could update both your sound and graphics drivers from RealTek and AMD update sites respectively.
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Post by ooxx »

@ Alan Phipps: Here is my save https://rapidshare.com/files/2614654393/X01.zip , and Thank you for your attention.

In this save, I'm in a M3 Spitfyre in sector Home of Opportunity, near by the North Gate. Behind that gate, there are 30 USC Food Facilities, and when you see those facilities, you see the problem.

Or, you just build another 30 USC Food Facilities(EVEN Ten of them) in any sector, you will see the problem. (Please use the "Station Building Service" in the Bonus Pack, I'm not sure if you build those stations manually can reappear the problem, I havn't test it that way.)

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EDIT: I tested build those stations manually, and everything is OK. So maybe the problem is the Station Building Service(Bonus Pack) put the USC Food Facilities too close to each other, maybe that make the AIs can't find their "docking path" to those stations, entrap some kind of endless-loop.... that just my guess blindly, probability it is not true. :P And again: I'm sorry my English is not good, I hope everything I say is... express exactly, not something strange. :(
Last edited by ooxx on Tue, 21. Feb 12, 22:27, edited 6 times in total.
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Post by Alan Phipps »

OK, I loaded ooxx's save. Before the gate I get 60 fps (the max possible) and after going through the gate I get 4 fps with those 30 stations. That is a confirmed fps issue with those Terran stations with vanilla X3AP 1.1 + BP that has nothing to do with the install or system running the game.

I have slightly changed the thread title to catch the attention of the Devs.
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Post by betc »

some very strange FPS jumps happened once i was down to around 5 stations left in the complex to connect, much more bearable but still yikes! Seems to running around twice as fast now that they are all connected

im just too scared to go back there. another thing that may be related to this is the extra lag it now takes when jumping to any sector... seems to take a lot longer than it did before my terran complex

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