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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 06:52    Post subject: [TC] Fast Sector selection on Universe Map Reply with quote Print

There was always one thing that annoyed me a lot in X3, reaching lower sectors in universe map was awfully slow. You can't zoom out too far on universe map, mouse scrolling is ridiculously slow and repeatedly pressing right and down arrow keys just didn't seem right. I decided to do a bit of research and deploy a list of keycombos that would efficiently target the sector I need in a few keypresses.

The basics are:

  • If you open the universe map and press any letter, it will target the first sector which name starts with that letter.
  • If you press that key repeatedly it will scroll between all the sectors that start with that letter (left to right, up to down)
  • If you switch to some sector by using other means than it's first letter key (for instance the arrow keys) and then press it will switch to the next sector that starts with that letter (for instance, you can reach Merchant Haven by Pressing L (Light of Heart), DownArrow (Montalaar), M (Merchant Haven)


Quick Q&A:

Q: What is it good for?
A: You are not supposed to know every shortcuts for all sectors, but knowing some will definitely help. Say you wanna dock some ship on your hub... Reaching that sector is a pain unless you know the trick... press I, right arrow, right arrow, and you're there! You might just want to learn few of them for a sectors where you frequently have to look in, because of industry, or whatever.


Q: That sounds great, what if I find a typo/shortcut not working/shorter keycombo? Or I find that your combo is difficult to perform and there is a same length combo but easier to remember/type?
A: Post it here. I just finished this it's still mostly in a "beta stage", I will update accordingly


Q: Your syntax is sometimes difficult to read/remember!
A: Probably it is. I'm open to suggestions on that matter


Current Stats on spreadsheet:

Code:

version             1.04          1.11beta      1.20          1.30

Total keys reduced  141           144           144           145
Maximum Length      5             5             5             5
Average Length      2,90          2,88          2,88          2,88
6-press combos      0             0             0             0
5-press combos      14            10            10            10
4-press combos      59            61            61            62
3-press combos      72            76            76            76
2-press combos      59            59            59            59
1-press combos      25            25            25            25

Game Version        X3:TC 2.5     X3:TC 2.71     X3:TC 3.1    X3:TC 3.11 + Steam DLC


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v1.30 Excel 2007+ (You don't need to enable macros for this one)



v1.30 Excel 97-2003 (not tested)



Changelog:

  • 1.30 Added shortcuts for Homily of Perpetuity Steam DLC sector.
  • 1.20 A bug in shortcut discovery algorithm fixed (additonal combos added). The shortcuts are now sorted according to their ease of use (further info on the "UNIVERSE" sheet, check column J.
  • 1.11 The algorithm selects up to 7 key combinations with the shortest length to be displayed in the drop down menus. The selection is pretty random so full list of solutions can be checked in the "UNIVERSE" sheet. For instance, Rhonkar's Trial has 27 5-key solutions.
  • 1.10 Removed the bloat out of the main sheet. Added support for ANH sector. Added a possibility to choose your favorite shortcut via dropdown menus for each sector. Found shorter combinations for several sectors in the southern universe (Heaven's Assertion in 3 presses? I've got it!)
  • 1.04 Changed several shortcuts to more intuitive ones. Corrected post-plot completion key combinations for Terran Unknown Sectors.
  • 1.03 Added simplified shortcuts to a core sectors over a universe map. Corrected errors in a few sectors.
  • 1.02 Corrected typo in Home of Light
  • 1.01 Corrected typo in Hatikvah's Faith, corrected universe map layout


Known bugs: Dropdown shortcut values have to be changed manually for ANH sector and other affected sectors (Cho's Defeat) upon changing the name of ANH sector



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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 07:46    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

respect for the work mate Very Happy

and i noticed that for the US hub sector, that ianamus zura and interworlds are both 2 spaces apart from it XD (as in interworlds left left, or IZ right right XD),



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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 08:00    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Catra wrote:
....and this is an -extreme- nitpick...but the fastest way to the xenon hub is O(for omicron) arrow down, but w/e its just 1 key less Razz


Not wen you have to press 'O' five times to get to Omicron Lyrae via Oort Cloud, Ocean of Fantasy, Olmancketslat's and Ore Belt....

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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 08:55    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I usually press just "i" once or twice and then click, as this brings me to nearly all game-relevant sectors in X3TC (Omicron Lyrae, Elysium of Light, Argon M148, Hub sector, Aldrin). If I want to go into the far southeast, twice "q" seems to be the easiest. "v" is for everything in the NE Terran corner.

I don't think I will learn any other shortcuts, although I like the list.

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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 12:43    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

This is pretty much all you need to get around the galaxy map. You should only be a couple of key strokes from any sector.

K - kingdom End R - Rolks drift S - Sizewell F - Family Whi

G - Getsu Fune O - Ocean of Fantasy

Z - Zyarthes Dominon H - Herrons Nebula D - Danas Chance

E - Elanas Fortune 2x Elysium of Light L - Light of Heart

I - Ianimus Zura 2x Inter-Worlds W - Wastelands 2x Wretched Skies

Q - Queens Space - 2x Queens Retribution (TC)

I dont spend much time in Terran space so not included but E points to Earth first then Elanas Fortune then Elysium of Light and that makes it really annoying in my book but any way...


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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Gswine wrote:
This is pretty much all you need to get around the galaxy map. You should only be a couple of key strokes from any sector.

K - kingdom End R - Rolks drift S - Sizewell F - Family Whi

G - Getsu Fune O - Ocean of Fantasy

Z - Zyarthes Dominon H - Herrons Nebula D - Danas Chance

E - Elanas Fortune 2x Elysium of Light L - Light of Heart

I - Ianimus Zura 2x Inter-Worlds W - Wastelands 2x Wretched Skies

Q - Queens Space - 2x Queens Retribution (TC)

I dont spend much time in Terran space so not included but E points to Earth first then Elanas Fortune then Elysium of Light and that makes it really annoying in my book but any way...


Going to the core sectors within few keypresses and then navigating with arrows from there is the most comfortable option, no doubt. Adding this to a spreadsheet now, Thanks for the feedback!

I'm adding few more options to that list, so everyone just chooses the ones they are comfortable with.

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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 16:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

If I recall correctly, if you are in a sector that starts with the same letter as for the sector you press a key to get to first, you actually start by going somewhere else in the ordered list of sectors with that initial letter (ie to the one that lists after the sector you are already in).

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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 18:55    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Great idea.

When weighting various options, you should count multiple keystrokes of the same letter as worse because the game appears to disable response to the key for a time after it is pressed.

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PostPosted: Fri, 11. Dec 09, 19:30    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

@nponoBegHuk

I missed your link when I first posted. That’s a lot of work there!

You must have the patience of a saint. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 17. Dec 09, 04:38    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Updated version uploaded. Enjoy.

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PostPosted: Thu, 17. Dec 09, 08:23    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Nice dude! Good info and tip.... I ones noticed some thing like this - when accidentaly pressed some button and whole galaxy map scrolled some where Razz but been not 100% sure why that happend ))) Now i am! Ty! =) Razz Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 17. Dec 09, 13:23    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

dillpickle wrote:
Not wen you have to press 'O' five times to get to Omicron Lyrae via Oort Cloud, Ocean of Fantasy, Olmancketslat's and Ore Belt....


Is that not J + down arrow three times?

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PostPosted: Tue, 22. Dec 09, 07:10    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

KarlHemmings wrote:
dillpickle wrote:
Not wen you have to press 'O' five times to get to Omicron Lyrae via Oort Cloud, Ocean of Fantasy, Olmancketslat's and Ore Belt....


Is that not J + down arrow three times?


Actually you would need to press downarrow 4 times to get to Omicron Lyrae through Jupiter. (Something like Jvvvv), Probably would be easier to remember going there through Wastelands: W^<<

You don't have to use the shortest combination possible if you prefer longer but easier to remember one so maybe Jvvvv or OOOOO will be the choice for you. However, if you navigate to some sector very frequently (large complex management or similar), you will eventually find it best to learn the shortest combo since human memory works this way: the more you repeat, the easier it becomes Razz

I personally use QQ>H (for Heaven's Assertion) and IIv^> (for Perpetual Sin) all the time (it's where I have 30+ station complexes), while most people will just stick with IIv and then just clicking/scrolling to the sector they need but, again, make your choice, you have both ways to choose among in the spreadsheet Smile

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PostPosted: Sun, 3. Jan 10, 00:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Has anyone taken into account the unknown sectors near Unholy Descent?

People were saying 'oh there's no shortcut'

V,V,>,> Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 8. Aug 10, 16:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Just looked at this with the latest OpenOffice.org.

It is full of error messages,sorry.

Otherwise I was hoping it would be useful.
But you can now add

ANH sector = Z/ right arrow /up arrow. Smile


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