Multiplayer would it be possable

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Multiplayer would it be possable

Post by magicorp1 » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 03:05

So i final got one of my friends to buy X3:TC then one day i was thinking "Multiplayer how would that work so i whent through a few ideas, skirmishes online where 6 or some people could duke it out in free for all or being allies then that idea expand Playing in the same universe it could just be 2 or people but would it work?" :?:

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Post by Gothsheep » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 03:07

No.

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Post by fOSSil » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 03:10

Yes, but going through ideas and actually doing it, reliably, fast, and balanced are different things alltogether. Like building a house with lego compared to planning and building a real skyscraper.

Keep dreaming though :wink:...

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Post by Stars_InTheirEyes » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 03:11

Like gothsheep said:

No.

Not ever.
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Post by delray » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 03:33

This game would have to be redone from scratch to support multiplayer. It would require rethinking the whole mechanism it runs upon.

I doubt it will ever happen.

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Post by Saracen » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 04:12

SETA is the main problem. It would be like trying to implement Bullet Time into a multiplayer version of Max Payne.

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Post by shanrak » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 04:18

Saracen wrote:SETA is the main problem. It would be like trying to implement Bullet Time into a multiplayer version of Max Payne.
Not really, most people use SETA to get from point A to B faster, just implement it like how they did it in freelancer (basically giving you a super speed boost, but you can't shoot while in it and being shot at kicks you out of it).

Being able to dogfight other players would be interesting though :)

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Post by Gothsheep » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 04:21

The biggest problems are things that you, as the player, would never see. How the systems talk to each other, how the math for physics is resolved. Things like that.

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Post by GCU Grey Area » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 04:24

No thanks - adding multiplayer would use up far to much dev time for little benefit (IMO). I'd much rather they used that time for improving the single player game. Anyway, there are plenty of multiplayer games out there for those who want to play them - I don't & would stop playing X games if they ever turned multiplayer. I like having my own private universe that no one else can mess with while my computer is switched off.

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Post by Saracen » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 04:58

shanrak wrote:Not really, most people use SETA to get from point A to B faster, just implement it like how they did it in freelancer (basically giving you a super speed boost, but you can't shoot while in it and being shot at kicks you out of it).

Being able to dogfight other players would be interesting though :)
Eh? SETA's a time accelerator, not a booster. If you used it, how would your game predict what I'm going to do in advance? :p

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Post by Hrodeth » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 05:29

GCU Grey Area wrote:No thanks - adding multiplayer would use up far to much dev time for little benefit (IMO). I'd much rather they used that time for improving the single player game. Anyway, there are plenty of multiplayer games out there for those who want to play them - I don't & would stop playing X games if they ever turned multiplayer. I like having my own private universe that no one else can mess with while my computer is switched off.

Speaking of which, wasn't there a new Space MMO coming out? (Not related to Eve online) ?

It vaguely sparked my interest, but obviously not enough to remember the name of it.

*Edit* Found it. I was thinking of Black Prophecy. I won't link it here because I don't want to advertise for them. But it looks very cool. Beautiful graphics engine actually.

Problem is...it's completely missing the Empire Building and economic complexity of X3. Merge the two, and you'll have the best Space game ever made.

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Post by sazanami » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 06:51

If it becomes multiplayer, then it isn't X anymore.

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Post by Genoce » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 08:58

I was just thinking. Would it be possible that if the players cant be in the same universe, there assets can?

Factorys, patrols, UT's, stuff like that?

And the objects get moved/deleted/changed every so often, not in real time?

Would that be more manageable?

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Post by maphys » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 10:43

Would that be more manageable?
Probably not. What happens when you both go after that 100 yield asteroid at about the same time? Or if GOD adds different stations to the two of them? Or when one person does a load of build missions in a sector you are building a complex in? Or when someone destroys a station you docked at to save?

I won't go back and make the same points that all the other threads have - the summary is: No easy way to do it. And if there were it would have already been done.

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Post by AleksMain » Fri, 17. Apr 09, 11:01

maphys wrote:What happens when you both go after that 100 yield asteroid at about the same time?
Someone will be first.
maphys wrote:Or if GOD adds different stations to the two of them?
AI must prevent collisions.
maphys wrote:Or when one person does a load of build missions in a sector you are building a complex in?
Each player must have his quotes for building purposes (as for other too). Limits can be applied through high price or something else.
maphys wrote:Or when someone destroys a station you docked at to save?
Save ? Isn't MMORPG autosave data for it's players for each moment of play-time?
maphys wrote:No easy way to do it.

Work is not holiday. And someone must pay for it. Coders can do this game (X-MMORPG), but for proper price.

If someone found sponsors already, call Egosoft.

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