[MOD] [TC/AP] X3 Rebalance Mod (XRM) - Total conversion - v1.30d (02.12.13)

[A5PECT]

TS ships are sold at company showrooms now, I think.

The Argon Prime shipyard only sells combat ships.

[morikaane]

It seems like I'm missing some ships that, according to the database, should be for sale at some stations. Specifically, I'm looking to buy a Mercury; which is listed at being both the shipyards in 'Argon Prime' and 'Cloudbase South East'.

You should be able to find them available for purchase at the Jonferco Showroom's scattered about in Argon space. I think the main Federal Argon Shipyards, if I remember correctly (and the like of other races), only sell the Military Ships.

You'll find one here...

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You should be able to find a Jonferco Showroom in Red Light... if I am not mistaken.

Cheers,
M.

[nap_rz]

@all but especially paul here

I have this idea, maybe this is already too late and should've been tried when paul made CMOD4... nevertheless here's what I'm thinking

so someone made a thread in Rebirth forum asking egosoft to improve the feeling of weapons, he argued that weapons, especially capital ships weapons felt wrong, these weapons just feel like phew phew phew and sprayed hoping them hit something instead of the precise and huge BANG that packs powerful punches

well I agree with that, even in CMOD/XRM these PPC, PSP and others big guns still feels like phew phew phew, so maybe we can try to change them into something more realistic/believe able...

1. all capital grade weapons should not be slower than fighter class weapons, so I'm talking about giving PPC something like 5x the speed of it is now, so a PPC will travel at 2500m/s or such that it is faster than, say...a PRG...

2. however, their rate of fire should be also significantly lower my guesstimate, the fastest capital weapon should not fire weapon faster than 1 shot every 10 seconds kinda like how the Teladi gauss cannon work now....

3. also their energy requirement should be enormous, so a Tyr firing half of it's total number of PSP capable turrets may as well deplete... say... 50% of it's weapon energy, so when a Tyr fire it's all PSP in all it's PSP capable turrets it will be drained completely of it's energy....

4. you can give frigates capital grade weapons, but because of their enormous energy requirement, these frigate won't be able to use these big guns often in a fight...

5. no more PRG, PAC, EBC, EMPC etc for M7 and above, to deal with fighters and missiles, all capitals should have specialized anti fighter weapons... take example CW FLAKs.... increase their range and rate of fire but decrease a bit the damage... or maybe don't nerf the damage...

6. about missiles, I think most missiles should work terrible against energy shield... even nukes should do bad against shields but missiles are hull destroyer...

7. in relation with number 6, maybe try to vary how capital weapons work against shield and hull...

basically that's my idea for the capital weapons, how will we balance for medium and fighter weapons, how to prevent capitals from using PPC to kill a fighter, how will it handle turrets scripts like MARS, how will it behave OOS, etc I honestly have no idea maybe we can all discuss it here...

[A5PECT]

1. all capital grade weapons should not be slower than fighter class weapons...

2. however, their rate of fire should be also significantly lower...

You're looking for Gauss Cannons.

3. also their energy requirement should be enormous...

4. you can give frigates capital grade weapons...

The problem here is that AI ships don't understand energy management. At all. You'd have destroyers quickly burning all of their laser energy at the beginning of combat and battles between AI ships would be clumsy and needlessly protracted. Also, the AI would be more or less helpless against the player in capital ship combat.

5. no more PRG, PAC, EBC, EMPC etc for M7 and above...

I don't see how limiting the player's options like that makes the game any more fun. Fighter class weapons are still effective against fighters (duh) and they're much more energy efficient than flak guns. It actually gives you something to think about when outfitting capital ships instead of just going straight to the same gun every time. The weapon compatibility also gives capital ships more variety and works well with turret switching in AP and third-party turret scripts like MARS.

all capitals should have specialized anti fighter weapons...

Flaks aren't supposed to be an end-all to fighters. Only ships that are specialized as anti-fighter platforms should be able to take down large fighter groups, and other capital ships should have to rely on those ships to protect them. If fighters stand no chance against larger ships then it takes away from not only their roles in combat but capital ships as well.

Anti-cap fighters kill anti-cap cap ships.
Anti-cap cap ships kill anti-fighter cap ships.
Anti-fighter cap ships kill anti-cap fighters.

If you give every capital ship impenetrable fighter defense, then it's:

Cap ships kill everything.
Fighters are useless once the player gets an M7.

6. about missiles, I think most missiles should work terrible against energy shield... even nukes should do bad against shields but missiles are hull destroyer...

Missiles always do the same amount of damage to hull and shielding. It's the way their damage is coded; there isn't much that can be done about it through the missile stats themselves. Using the hull packs creates an effect very similar to what you describe, though.

7. in relation with number 6, maybe try to vary how capital weapons work against shield and hull...

Compare Ion Cannons to Gauss Cannons.

[morikaane]

paul...

Just found an ATF Mapping Service Mammoth.... wtf? It's the generic missions again isn't it...

(and yes, the mod is installed correctly on my rig).

discussion points about weapons... etc

answers to discussion points about weapons...

Also... since the weapons are racialised now... if you start playing around with which ones do massive damage against shields and stuff all to the hull and whatnot, you'll have a massive balancing issue.

And... PACs / PRGs / PBEs and whatnot are good for back turrets in large ships. Very good at shooting down incoming missiles and pesky fighters. Removing them from ships that are M7 or greater would be annoying (and silly).

M.

[LordDeTracy]

The download links seem to not work anymore

[morikaane]

The download links seem to not work anymore

Confirmed. The server that's hosting might be down, or Paul could be doing a surprise update. Probably the former. It could fix itself in a while, or barring that Paul will have to look at that when he's around.

Cheers,
M.

[LordDeTracy]

sad, i wanted to play this tonight

[morikaane]

sad, i wanted to play this tonight

I just checked again and it appears to be working now. You should be able to download it.

M.

[Failmuffins]

It seems like I'm missing some ships that, according to the database, should be for sale at some stations. Specifically, I'm looking to buy a Mercury; which is listed at being both the shipyards in 'Argon Prime' and 'Cloudbase South East'.

You should be able to find them available for purchase at the Jonferco Showroom's scattered about in Argon space. I think the main Federal Argon Shipyards, if I remember correctly (and the like of other races), only sell the Military Ships.

You'll find one here...

Spoiler

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You should be able to find a Jonferco Showroom in Red Light... if I am not mistaken.

Cheers,
M.

Yup, found one over there. Thanks!

[Erenar]

I decided to start up an XRM:AP game last night. Added my favourite AP compatible TC scripts and started up an OTAS Operative game.

First thing I saw... a Khaak Advanced Destroyer attacking the OTAS Boreas.

Thankfully the Boreas took it down.... what a start that would have been... straight into a cap ship battle after the script load pause lol

[i64man]

You should also find it on Aladna Hill.

[morikaane]

First thing I saw... a Khaak Advanced Destroyer attacking the OTAS Boreas.

Welcome to XRM:AP

M.

[Erenar]

So many more reds.... gone are the days of lazy transporting in safe space. Seems like nowhere is safe! I like it

Only thing I don't like is my normal HQ system has been nabbed by the damn Teladi Seems I might go to war with them just so I can have that system but I like the Teladi... even with all their greed.

[Sorkvild]

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After installation of 1.15, nav buoy looks different. Why is that ?

[Yacek]

Navigational Beacon. The TC useless. The AP is used for jumping to it.

[Malaras]

Hello, I'm new to the game been playing for 4-5 days or so. Was wondering does this have sector take overs n such? Also possible to wipe out every race ect?
Also is the any type of alliance type stuff mod/script.

If not could i get pointed in the right direction my head about to explode from all this reading lol.

I'm wanting my game to be some what like space empires 5 was.

Where i can take out everyone and sorta have an "I Win" type deal.

Sorry if dumb questions but I'm new trying to figure out how stuff works.

Thanks,

[morikaane]

Hello, I'm new to the game been playing for 4-5 days or so. Was wondering does this have sector take overs n such?

You can take over sectors with additional scripts. For example, LazCorps Claim Sector.

Also possible to wipe out every race ect?

You can certainly try, but they'll respawn. It is a limitation of how the game works. I think it can be done to an extent with IR... sort of... but I'm not exactly sure.

Also is the any type of alliance type stuff mod/script.

I'm not sure what you're expecting there. However you could use IR or something. But you'll need to play around with its settings because of the ferocity of the XRM 'verse. There are alliances already though, like the entire community of planets against the Terrans, or the Terrans against everyone (more or less).

Where i can take out everyone and sorta have an "I Win" type deal.

There are no "iwinships" in XRM. However, that Unknown Ship doesn't... count... *grin*

M.

[nap_rz]

take out everyone and sorta have an "I Win" type deal.

There are no "iwinships" in XRM. However, that Unknown Ship doesn't... count... *grin*

M.

this?

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whose ship is that? can I attack/board/force it to eject without reputation hit?

[paulwheeler]

UPDATE RELEASED v1.16
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XRM-AP BUG FIX

Only users of Albion Prelude need to install this update. TC content will be coming in the next release.



If continuing a 1.15 AP-XRM save it is essential that you follow the update instructions below.





COMPONENTS THAT REQUIRE UPDATING:

XRM Part 2
Hull packs


Please ensure that you recopy all scripts from Part 2 as many have changed. Just copy and paste them into your scripts folder overwriting the originals.




SHIPS THAT REQUIRE CLONING:
If continuing a save game

TS Sentinels




SHIPS THAT MUST NOT BE IN SECTOR DURING UPGRADE:
If continuing a save

Marlin




Changelog:

Fixed - Swapped Marlin model to vanilla AP model
Fixed - Reduced swarm missile warheads to five to help fps - increased damage to compensate
Fixed - Incorrect ships in ATF shipyards and certain ATF jobs
Fixed - Added missing factories to Magnir USC Shipyard
Fixed - Terran lasertowers now use standard lasertower model
Fixed - Changed name of AP Gunner to "Type IV"
Fixed - Replaced the doubled sector name of CEO's Welspring
Fixed - Added coordinates to the new Unknown Sectors names
Fixed - All TS Sentinel variants gain one shield slot
Fixed - Corrected weapons loadout on Aquata

Added - Jumpdrive and Trade Command Mk3 for sale in Terran space
Added - Atmospheric Lifter for sale






SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS IF CONTINUING A V1.15 AP-XRM GAME
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Due to the alteration of some jobs scripts we have to remove these jobs so that they respawn using the correct ships. The below script will do this as well as make any necessary changes to docks for the patch.

If you are starting a new game DO NOT run this script - it is for existing games only.


- Update all XRM components required

- Load your save.

- If not already enabled, enable the script editor (change pilot name to "Thereshallbewings")

- Open the script editor and scroll down to the following script: "temp.xrm.1.15to1.16patch".

- Hit "r" then enter twice to run the script






NOTES:-

Users of Terran Conflict do not need to install this release - although it will do no harm to do so.

Part 1 has not changed with this release so there is no need to update it.

People who have spotted Mammoths in Terran space - I'm 99.99% sure its not the XRM spawning these. Mammoths are spawned when a script or job cannot find the ship it is trying to spawn. All XRM TShips entries are exactly where they should be. I have double checked jobs and there is no problem - in fact the name of the mammoth spotted, "ATF Mapping Service", is not a job spawned by XRM at all. Have a look at the XRM jobs file if you don't believe me.