Could someone create two additional Terran weapons mod that would be compactibile / merged with CMOD3?
Here are the weapons:
=== Plasma Repeater ===
Reason - Terrans lack cost effective weapon for M5 and M4, EMPC is good weapon but single cannon cost more than 3-4 M5 and one M4.
Ballance - weapon would be similar to IRE (CMOD3 ballance) but bit more powerful and bit less range (to not make it too IMBA), it would also eat a bit more power than IRE.
Effect wise, the buller should be smaller.
And main goal, this weapon should cost between IRE and PAC or bit over PAC.
=== Starburst Pulse Cannon ===
Reason - dedicated Terran M7 cannon, M/AM cannons are more like M6 heavy cannons and PSP is a bit too powerful for M7 (again CMOD3 ballance)
Ballance - weapon would be something between CIG and IBL, but buller would be faster (but slower than Starburst shockwave Cannon), longer range, no charge ability, low fire rate (similar to SSC, that has much lower fire rate than Flak cannons - CMOD3 ballance).
Effect wise - same as SSC exept that there would be no shockwave effect, only normal impact explosion.
I heard that there is possible to have "cannon family" so there would be no need for ships modification. Like that repair laser and tractor beams are in one family so if something can use TB then it can use RL.
So ideally there would be something like this:
EMPC and Plasma Repeater would be in one family, so every EMPC capable ship would be able to use them.
SSC and Starburst Pulse Cannon - same drill, as SSC is mounted exlcusively on M7 or bigger (Springblossom and adrin experimentals doesn't count).
Oh and there should be additional weapons forges for those weapons in Terran shipyard, simply copy/ paste / name change of EMPC and SSC forges and swap their weapons to the new ones.
PR guns should be produced faster and cheaper for ballance.
If someone is willing to do those weapons, I add link to two sound files for those weapons:
http://www.filefront.com/16715487/sounds.rar/
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[REQ] Additional Terran weapons
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Yeah I suggest asking Roger as well, your ideas would make a great addition to his mod. + that way we wouldn't have to choose between two weapon mods
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Link to his mod
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0
EDIT:
Link to his mod
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0
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I like the OP's concept but I have a somewhat complementary idea.
I have always thought that a lore-friendly Aldrin EEMPC/PSSC design would have been if the Aldrin versions had significantly shorter range, faster firing, faster bullet (hence greater accuracy vs agile targets) yet used less energy and did less damage per second compared to the Terran EMPC/SSC. The Terrans had time and resources to develop them into the slower but much more damaging (on hit) EMPC/SSC we see there now. The same bullet and strike graphic effects could still be used for both versions. (Rather like the old Alpha/Beta weapon versions really.)
As they originally had common roots, the equivalent Terran/Aldrin types should be able to fit into each other's ship mounting slots. Now post-Terran/Aldrin plots you would have the choice to fit any mix of fast light version or slow heavy version of the EMPC/SSC as appropriate to suit your targets and style of play.
I would combine the P/M/AML into one single weapon standard since they both use the same ammo and so the launchers would not be that different. If you need to make them rather different in performance then logically the ammo should be different too.
I have always thought that a lore-friendly Aldrin EEMPC/PSSC design would have been if the Aldrin versions had significantly shorter range, faster firing, faster bullet (hence greater accuracy vs agile targets) yet used less energy and did less damage per second compared to the Terran EMPC/SSC. The Terrans had time and resources to develop them into the slower but much more damaging (on hit) EMPC/SSC we see there now. The same bullet and strike graphic effects could still be used for both versions. (Rather like the old Alpha/Beta weapon versions really.)
As they originally had common roots, the equivalent Terran/Aldrin types should be able to fit into each other's ship mounting slots. Now post-Terran/Aldrin plots you would have the choice to fit any mix of fast light version or slow heavy version of the EMPC/SSC as appropriate to suit your targets and style of play.
I would combine the P/M/AML into one single weapon standard since they both use the same ammo and so the launchers would not be that different. If you need to make them rather different in performance then logically the ammo should be different too.
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The CMOD3 requires merging and as it affects the balance of the weapons the CMOD3 developers would have to integrate my weapons and adjust the balance to suit their view of weapon balance.mr.WHO wrote:Side question: does AWR Mod is compatibile with CMOD3 ?
Personally, I am not intending to modify the vanilla weapon balance as such things are down to personal opinion. My intent with the AWRM mod is to primarily to extend the Terran Weapon set and make some of the rarer items generally available but at an appropriatly elevated cost to avoid exploitation.
I am planning a 0.7 release in the near future with some additions based on various requests. The new weapons will probably not follow the suggestions to the letter but they should be close enough to fit in with the Vanilla concepts and achieve the intended end result of the requesters.
EDIT: The SPC sounds like my Advanced EMPC
EDIT #2: v0.7 of AWRM includes an APE (Alpha Partical Emitter) weapon which has been balanced v. the "Vanilla" Commonwealth IRE. It is still quite expensive when compared with the Commonwealth versions though, but it is a quarter of the price of an EMPC.
Lenna (aka [SRK] The_Rabbit)
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