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The vision of Mr Reeves in a tin box in space? What? I don't understand! :roll: :lol:
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He's a Pirate in his main game.Has quite an empire and enjoys "Boron bashing". :)

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Here's an interesting thread that's running atm.
It's about fitting traders etc

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 33#3141033

At the moment my tutorial game is that there are so many station build missions to do,I am finding it hard to collect the fighters in the boa which I am flying.The Chokaro is doing fine.

I need to change ships and have them both working while I do the builds.

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Rumours of a new recruit employed by the Yaki Prince abound in the bars in and around Yaki nieghbouring sectors.
Apparently this new upstart is starting attacks on defenseless stations and leaving the local militia to deal with the incursions,
But here's the twist...Without firing a single shot,he gets promoted and paid in full for protecting the station.
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... c&start=30
Now since Oi'm ah peaceful sort of goiy Oi think Oi'l just try that....

Hey man! it works a treat.

Now woi did ah not think ov that before?

Been so busy with me inventories an' Oi did not notice sumtin'.
Renamed all me sats and ships,zo Oi de know which iz which,loik and saw a stashun build request. Went te the station an' accepted.
Now I entruste moi Orca to a poilot,an up to now ee's bin pretty good .
But Oi could not voind 'im or de Orca any where's.

Checked me log in case ee left me a message....never knows see...sumptin moight have turned up an' ee 'ad te leave a bit quick.Oi kin understan' that.

But what's this? "Your ship Orca was destroyed in sector Argon Prime by Argon Equipment Dock"????

Iv ee survived,ee better hide vrom me.That ship was working perfect when Oi giv' 'im it.

Oh well. Better go te Kingdom End and zee de Queen agin Oi s'pose,since that's where Oi need to git the station.
This is one build that won't pay for itself,but Oi could just cancel wit me appologies...nope Oi'l zee if Oi kin get a Yaki TL virst.
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The Yaki Ryu is cheap an' cheerful.No brownie points for comfort or visibility.You can see where you are going but any more than that you need the external camera drones.
Beware if you are used to flying other ships. The nose of this thin' stick out much ferda than you are aware.Oi just collided wid one ov those tubular protrusions vrom the jump-gate.....It doesn't do your shields a lot of good and' if ya not careful you end up sat on the floor ,much to te 'idden amusement of ya bridge crew!
It holds 12 fighters too,so dat will speed up thin's a bit.
Oi managed to do the station build in toim so not all was lost.
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but I am on shore leave after I nuked the place. Remember I'm also at war with the Terrans. It's a war I can't win at the moment. Terran ships are far superior to that of the Boron. But those nukes I snuck in have turned the place into dust and death. So no pretty beaches on the Potomic River in D.C.

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/images/art/ ... een51S.jpg

http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/up ... ut-3-4.jpg

I do these side missions but always get back to X3TC because there is something beautiful and intellectual about it that sucks me back in.

Oh and a note on my main game. I've run into rep issues that are hard to fix. I've tried several ways to fix it but havn't succeeded yet.

My main bases are all in Argon space. I've had a special place in my black heart for the Argons ever since I decided were worth more as friends than enimies. It's all a missunderstanding. One of their ships bumped my ships while exiting out of the gate. It turned red. I have a policy that states i don't play god and reload for minor traffic accidents. So I have a lot of traffic accidents because I don't believe in traffic lawsaand i can't be stoping for everything.

So his hull gets crippled and he can't go fast enough to ram me again. Problem solved/take care of fleet lagistics in my core sector Argon Prime/my sector patrol knocks out the freighter because it is tagged enemy/sector lights up in red and blue like a dam christmas tree/I jump out because my management skills are slacking and I don't catch it/My M7M launches all it's nukes at IS Hostile targets turning more targets red/ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE/What was left of my fleet after fighting the Boron Wars takes over argon prime in a few minites and I am labled a confirmed enemy of the Federation.

So like I've said repeatedly. God considers me a force of nature to be reckoned with and has sought to end me after I destroyed 14 sectors completely and held them for several game days before being defeated.

God succeded by using my sector patrols to nibble away my good Argon standing. I used to be an Argon Hero of the Federation 90%. So this is a blow to me. I worked hard in early game to get that rank so I got the best proces on the ships I stole. So now I'm not getting good proces because I'm trading with the Teladie on stolen battleships, destroyers, and carriers and they don't pay as well.

So any words of advice on managing sector security would be helpful for when I try and reload and salvage my main game. I need to get out of this mess so i can finish my 10 story tall shield plex. Currently it is 3 stories tall. It is too hard to build while under fire. I can't raise my rep fast enough without some bimbo in my fleet violating my order to stand down if attacked by Argons. I would rather them die. I have too much money tied up in argon space to have them hate me. They know about a few things I took from them back in the day but that was months ago and I apologized.
The skunk really is a bare bones model. It doesn't even have a GPS to highlight the way. Or targeting software MK 2 to allow target selection and painting from the sector map. It lacks a Trading System Extention to show prices in the sector you are in. The lack of satellites in rebirth is also annoying to the trader/pirate looking for a mark.
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Shore leave will give you time to reflect on what has happened,why,and what can be done.

If it was me...
I would pull back all my forces. set all stations and ships to have Argon as FRIEND .Then I would try to do as many Station build Missions as possible for the Argon.
Also I would try the exploit I linked to above.That of accepting Argon Station Protect missions where there are Argon Military and just vacate the sector.
The military will deal with the incursion,but you will get paid and your notoriety will increase.( Works with Patrol Missions too)

As you have sunk so low in their eyes,this may take some time.
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fallout3 is a good game but god three dog gets anoying :roll:

shouldnt have done that reeves
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well I beat games like that too fast. I'm good at FPS and i especially like it if it feels like I'm a character in a action movie with a good plot and a story. Before fallout 3 i beat call of duty world at war in 3 days. It's one of the reasons X3 is a revolving door. I won't just go out and get a new game. I already beat the fallout 3 part of fallout 3 with project purity. Now I started the expantions. I got the game of the year edition so apparantly there are lots of expantions. I'm looking forward to getting abducted by alians.

And as you might have guessed from my behavior in the x-universe my character is as evil as it can get. I was upset the game doesn't let me murder small children. That one mission where the lil brat was guarding the gate was like I have to walk all the way over there to paradice falls to rescue two more brats i never met and don't care about who were equally annoying as the brat who wouldn't let me in. I just wanted to shoot Mayor and have his goons/lil kids run out trying to kill me thus opening the gate letting in the Big Bad Wolf! :lol:

Instead because the game wouldn't let me draw a weopon going on the rescue mission (not my man, so normally not my problem) took 2 hours and was a real bugger because I got side tracked and killed everyone in town. It was that bitchy slaver who said something disrespectful and pissed me off. I've had similar bloodlust in X3 but never towards the argons. It's hard to get mad at the only people in space who you've been familiar with since X2.

So yea a full withdrawal is what I'll do and hopefully find an xenon invation I can blast to bits in Argon territory. I'll have to reload if they hit my complexes. It's gonna be a challenge. Like a hard chess game when my opponent knocks out my queen in some brilliant manouvour. I'll think of something even if I have to burn their Military outpost to the ground to stop the big ships from spawning where i don't want them to. Or perhaps I'll send Duke Nukem to lay low around my equipment docks if I can convince him that the abuse he suffered (78% hull remaining) at the hands of the argons was all a misunderstanding. I don't think he'll believe me. He's been sulking and hiding in his quaters ever since this situation developed. He really prefers it hadn't because it is a bugger to deal with.
The skunk really is a bare bones model. It doesn't even have a GPS to highlight the way. Or targeting software MK 2 to allow target selection and painting from the sector map. It lacks a Trading System Extention to show prices in the sector you are in. The lack of satellites in rebirth is also annoying to the trader/pirate looking for a mark.
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If you want something to calm your spirits, try Myst or Black/White
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Now Oi 'ave transver'd all dem foighters vrom Ore Belt Oi think Oi'l build a 1mj shield production unit in Boron Space and a 200mj shield production unit in Split space....Both in the SW regions of te universe.
Then te keep the Yaki 'appy Oi'l build some " 'appy " products for 'em .

Startin' wid te 1mj Oi'l use a Teladi one.

1xCrystal Fab M
1x Flower Farm L
1x Flower Farm M
1x Ore Mine L 19y
1x Shield Production Facility 1 Mj
1x Silicon Mine L 32y
2x SPP M
1x Sun Oil Refinery L
1x Sun Oil Refinery M

Total cost with CCKs 25,667,800 cr.




Only one Ore mine in Depths of Silence but over produces by 431 per hour.Silicon is plentiful but to not waste ,it produces just 59 extra per hour.
It will support one more 1mj shield fact so Oi'l ad that to it.

So I 'ave put all te facts up boi te Silicon mine an' connected 'em.But Oi need to drag the ore mine up there to.
Problem.The tractor beam factory is gone an' moi only tractor beam is in CBSE on me Hydra.
So Oi need to dock it an' me Ryu at te Argon Equipment Dock an Transver over.

All done and dusted.Oi got that Ore moin up wid te Silcon one an' connected all o' dem together. Give a bit te start wid .once ee got te virst batch o' shield Oi took all credits away. Ee'l make money iv 'ee zells well enough.

Oi selected Depths of Silence for minimum use of 'roids,but there is a heavy military presence here too,so my new complex will be safe enouh,Oi 'ope.

Now on te the next un....200'ds fer te Split.
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i recently aquiared a elite from a pilot in my m5 :lol:
been havin fun since then :twisted:
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Nice fighter.

Worked wit a couple Blastcaw Prototypes they make nice groups for skirmishes etc. Used them a lot in my main game early on.
If you are lucky,you can buy Elites 2nd hand iirc in TC.
Almost I got one that way the other day in our community game.

I am using the Tenjin in this game now as my personal ship.
Not much storage space but fast and quite efficient for this game.

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My first thought was Rhonkar's Trial for the 'roids,but that is too far off any trade route,so I have settled for Family Rhy.

Why Teladi stations in Boron Space and Boron stations in Split Space?

Each time I buy a station from a race ,my notoriety moves up a notch.
Every time a race buys my products ,it moves up a notch.

So I spread it around a bit.

It is possible to just buy the cheapest available,but when you have nearly 200,000,000 cr buying the cheapest does not really matter,does it?

Thus my final shopping list is...

1x Bio Gas Factory L
1x Bio Gas Factory M
1x Bofu Chemical Lab L
1x Bofu Chemical Lab M
1x Crystal Fab L
1x Ore Mine L 11y
2x Shield Production Fac. 200 Mj
1x Silicon Mine L 26y
2x SPP M

Total cost 34,957, 948 cr
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those new factories once up should be hassle free.

on anoter note i already beat the original myst and every black and white game ever made by lionhead studios, a creative company.
The skunk really is a bare bones model. It doesn't even have a GPS to highlight the way. Or targeting software MK 2 to allow target selection and painting from the sector map. It lacks a Trading System Extention to show prices in the sector you are in. The lack of satellites in rebirth is also annoying to the trader/pirate looking for a mark.
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Well Oi have them two complexes runin' and now for the Yaki.

Oi've bin a thinkin' that Oi 'ave not got 5MJ shield production ,nor 'ave Oi built in Teladi space. Oi dun' want te Teladi te git s'pishush do Oi? So That's what oi'l do next...after helpin' dem Yaki.
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I propose a m7m missle fab in Haticklas Faith. You'll find everything you need. Just steal.... or buy :cry: $$ a tl and a few falcon haulers to collect them so that production rolls along because the factory never gets full and sell them in one big pot to Terracorp HQ. They are buying everything and stockpiling it for some massive war or something. Who knows but I bet they aim to crush the Khaak based on my experience in a previous life as Jullian.
The skunk really is a bare bones model. It doesn't even have a GPS to highlight the way. Or targeting software MK 2 to allow target selection and painting from the sector map. It lacks a Trading System Extention to show prices in the sector you are in. The lack of satellites in rebirth is also annoying to the trader/pirate looking for a mark.
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Interesting project.
Will look into that one.

It works like this....


Sector: Hatikvah's Faith Suns: 150 %

1x Bio Gas Factory L
1x Bio Gas Factory M
1x BoFu Chem. Lab L
1x Bofu Chem. Lab M
1x Cahoona Bakery M
1x Cattle Ranch M
1x Crystal Fab L
1x Crystal Fab M
1X Flail Missile Production Facility
1x Hammer Torpedo Fab. Facility
1x Ore Mine L 44y
2x Silicon Mine L 26y
1x SPP L

Total cost
37,343,452
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"A funny thing happened to me on the way to the......"

Oi did ah stashun build for dem Yeki ad was waitin vor me Ryu to return with another vor 'em when Oi saw Oi cul improve me rank wid dem even furder.

Oi took took station protect exploits to "protect" their Shipyard.
All well an good,so Oi headed north to meet me Ryu and dock at te Pirate Stashun....

But.....Well O don't know what 'appened loik,but all of a zudden Oi eaz bein' atacked by Yaki as I got through te gate te odder zoid.Me'be Oi aksidently knocked one o' dem and ee got annoyed, or sumptin'.

I tried to out run them ,but saw the pirate stashun waz red to me too,and they just a kept comin',so nowt for it ,but to show em who's de boss.

Take a lot too annoy me but soon two had bailed and the five or six were space dust....oops a square box appears on my scanner.I had tried to apollogise te the first ship wid no response,but I thought te meself "no 'arm in tryin ag'in ..." I check my console and set Yaki to friend...oi vergot that last toim...and hailed te captain,apollogised an' ee axzepted loik a reasonable guy.Guess ee waz secretlu laughin 'at te two guys in space suits a tryin' to find te nearest ship or station that a take 'em loik.

Now Oi look te see what Oi could claim. Got a full cargo of energy in case Oi need te jump in a 'urry,so no good tryin' to collect owt.So Oi looked at the ships.
1x Advanced Eclipse with full shield an' hull.Unusual.Might not 'ave bin part of the group,but it 'ad pirate decor on it zo Oi claimed it an sent it to the Ryu.
1x Susanowa 50% hull and apparently no shields.Went over to repair it. an' all of a zudden it fired up it's engines and moved zeveral metres awah vrom me :!: :?: :?
Oi tried ag'in and remembered to claim it virst an' all went well,so Oi zent it over to me Ryu aswell,docked at the Pirate station(now freindly again) and wrote this report.
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Turns out this Advanced Eclipse is one of the free ships you can find while traveling.
It is in the SE quadrant.
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Weaver's Tempest.
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Now Oi have done a dew build missions 'ere an Oi axidently bought a silicon mine M earlier,which Oi dumped 'ere on a 7 yield 'roid. So O set it up to git me money back.
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03/06/10 Edit

I think you all have the idea on how to get what you need for the various complexes.So I am editing out many lists now.

Just use you favourite complex calculator.


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Well Oi'm still buildin' the above complex when curiosity gits the better ov me ,zo Oi go off to voind that Advanced Eclipse,see?
Oi tranzver all me equipment an' 'ead off to Paranid Prime for system and Equipment upgrades.
'Tis a bit slower at full engine tune but 'as an extra 25 MJ shield vitted and jus' me'be a bit more fire power.
Well when oi entered Paranid Prime ,oh what a zite to be'old :!: ....
Crates full ov missiles an such jus' vlotin' in space!

Never one to mis a really good opportunty loik this... quick upgrade and back-an'-vorth to the EQ dock zelling me prizes.Then when too much energy on board ,zell at 19 per unit at local stations. Lost count 'ow many toims Oi went back to stashions but Oi got payed well vor just collectin' 'em.
The only problem Oi 'ad was that all these crates were a fallin vfom ships that the Paranid did not loik there.Thaought Oi git blasted too at toims ,but Oi was able to dodge pretty well.
Not sure if oi will zend thee any more messages tonight,but oi'l be gittin' back to completing the complex.

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Not much for Norman to report tonight.

He is busy trying to get all the mines down near the base of the new complex,without crashing into any other 'roids on the way down.

So if any of you are considering this approach,be careful or you will find your sector devoid of roids and full of station debris :lol: ...Just as well this is not a DID game.

But only saving at stations does encourage concentration in this task.
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good luck Norman, about to crash out here, but going to leave the universe running after all the world doesn't stop just because I go too sleep. :lol: And I could use the few extra creds to build my 100mill shield complex I have planned. I have some traders going around in the bare minimum and it is a pain trying to find shield for them let alone the rest of my fleet. Keep up the good work :thumb_up:
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I hope you had no game casualties when you got back to it.

....Complex building....

There are several places for information on this subject .Two of which has been highlighted again in another thread.As I am in the process of complex building I will link them again here.
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 19#2400519
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0

Meanwhile Norman continues to serve tha Yaki cause...until the complex is built,anyway.
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At last ,oi 'ave vinished te complex.

Final check on what the local sector factories need and set my prices vor em to buy vrom me.
Zero out the vactory credits zo I can zee it's mekin' me a bob or two.

Now off to Teladi space so they don't get left out.Don't wan't them attackin' me before Oi'm ready to deliver moi "message" now do Oi?
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Ministry of Finance

Reason ? Sector patrols and 'roids.plus Oi kin git most ov what Oi need vrom te local shipyard.


Oi zell 'em the shields.They protect my stashun.
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