'get maintype' script method, and game-file tie-up ?

[exogenesis]

I can see that
<Object> get maintype
returns a number that relates to which game-file the 'subtype' indexes into.

My question is what things have maintype 0 to 4 & greater then 17,
& which files do these correspond to ?

Given:
5 = TDocks
6 = TFactories
7 = TShips
8 = TLasers
9 = TShields
10 = TMissiles
11 = TWareE
12 = TWareN
13 = TWareB
14 = TWareF
15 = TWareM
16 = TWareT
17 = TAsteroids

Or perhaps they are unused (particularly > 17) ?

I assume there's an index for:
TBackgrounds, TBullets, TCockpits, TDebris, TFactoryWrecks, TGates, TLasers & TShipWrecks.

As well as for TNebula (gone in TC?), TPlanets & TSuns + TSpecial.

[exogenesis]

Had a closer look & it seems :

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                            X3 TC       X3R + XTM       X3 R        X2
                                        & Ashley Fabs		
Maintype    T File Name     Subtypes    Subtypes        Subtypes    Subtypes

 0          TBullets        45          32              30          24
 1                          0           0               0           0
 2          TBackgrounds    80          62              35          0
 3          TSuns           11          25              1           23
 4          TPlanets        149         156             129         20
 5          TDocks          47          27              21          17
 6          TFactories      398         998             301         242
 7          TShips          369         332             220         114
 8          TLasers         39          32              30          24
 9          TShields        6           20              6           4
10          TMissiles       36          29              29          8
            (TRockets)
11          TWareE          1           1               1           1
12          TWareN          80          63              63          25
13          TWareB          16          11              11          11
14          TWareF          13          15              11          11
15          TWareM          4           3               3           3
16          TWareT          112         443             81          79
17          TAsteroids      10          10              10          10
18          TGates          21          17              5           5
19                          1           1               1           1
20          TSpecial        105         119             82          44
21          TNebula         1           1               1           134
22                          0           0               0           131
23                          0           0               0           0
24                          0           0               0           0
25          TCockpits       160         663             105         103
26                          0           0               0           0
27                          0           0               0           0
28          TDebris         21          21              21          -
29          TDockWrecks     47          20              20          -
30          TFactoryWrecks  398         301             301         -
31          TShipWrecks     368         212             212         -

Which leaves me wondering what the hell 'maintype's
1, 19, 22, 23, 24, 26 & 27 are.
If anything at all?

Anyone know if this is the complete list?


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[(----____JEFF____----)]

http://www.xai-corp.net/en/node/602

that's a nice list, but I think it's a bit out dated. My guess is that 1 are still sectors though. No idea of the others.

[exogenesis]

Cheers for that,
I think the drive to update Xai-Corp is good,
a lot of stuff seems to be out-dated (or assumed known)

[B-O'F]

Hi exogenesis,

Use the updated script I wrote years ago to get the prices for all the wares in the game (copy below - call it whatever you like).

This will let you match the wares to the Tfiles. The ones that don't have any names - just match the number of entries to the Tfiles... This worked for X3:R (can't find the list I made), haven't checked X3:TC..

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Script bof.ware.prices
Version: 0
for Script Engine Version: 41

Description
Log prices for all wares
Arguments
Source Text

001   * list ave, min, and max prices for ALL wares in TC
002   
003   $logid = 81030
004   
005   write to log file #$logid  append=[TRUE]  value='Teran Conflict wares'
006   
007   $wtype = 0
008   $wsub = -1
009   while $wtype < 33
010   |write to log file #$logid  append=[TRUE]  value=' '
011   |write to log file #$logid  append=[TRUE]  printf: fmt='Ware Type =%s', $wtype, null, null, null, null
012   |$wsubmax =  get number of subtypes of maintype $wtype
013   |while $wsub < $wsubmax
014   ||inc $wsub = 
015   ||$ware = null
016   ||$ware =  get ware from maintype $wtype and subtype $wsub
017   ||if $ware != null
018   |||$aveprice = get average price of ware $ware
019   |||$minprice = get min price of ware $ware
020   |||$maxprice = get max price of ware $ware
021   |||
022   |||write to log file #$logid  append=[TRUE]  printf: fmt='%3s %10s%10s %10s %s', $wsub, $aveprice, $minprice, $maxprice, $ware
023   ||end
024   |end
025   |inc $wtype = 
026   |$wsub = -1
027   |
028   end
029   
030   return null

The list is quite interesting - especially the ship prices.. you can check if the ships offered for sale really are bargains...

Boron - Ol Fh'art

[exogenesis]

Interesting that you loop'd from 33 rather than 31,
is there something at 32 & 33 ?, or just 'playing safe' ?

'Ships offered for sale' - you mean the TC:
'I've got a 2nd hand ship for sale, one careful owner, low mileage, good price Gov'nor'
offers in TC ?

I'm not actually trying to get extra in-script info about objects,
but passing main & sub types to a log file for processing by an external util that parses
the game-files (hence the need to know to tie-up).
Util probably to be called 'Economy Planner' or something equally grand

[B-O'F]

Hi exogenesis,

Sorry for the delay, but my ISP crashed out while writing it last night (actually it was early this morning...).

Yes, the loop to 33 was just a safety feature..

And yes, to check the prices of ships from these dealers - some are real bargains, others are a rip-off.

Your list appears to be complete - apart from type 19, but I have no idea what this single entry can be... Possibly the other ware types were for wares types that were planned but never completed, or 'reserved for future expansion'.

Best of luck with your 'Economy Planner' (or whatever you call it)...

Boron - Ol Fh'art

[exogenesis]

Thanks, hmm 8 am post - too early for me on a Saturday morning.
& thanks for your help.

[Chealec]

Sorry for the slight thread necromancy, I've just been "pointed" this way but I can shed a little more light on some of the following maintypes... I think.

1: yup - still sectors

23: this is a customisable "wares list" - it's a container for adding specific wares to trading stations, equipment docks, shipyards and so on - stations that don't "produce" anything per se.

It _is_ a maintype, but only exists within maintypes 5 and 7.

24 and 26 I've not quite got a handle on yet but they seem to be some kind of special "wares" as they only exist on ships and the new OWPs (maintype 7).

For instance, this is the OWP in Kingdoms end (I've added comments)

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<o id="8287" f="1" t="7" s="SS_SH_A_OWP_3" x="4098025" y="-2882491" z="-6760417" r="2">
    <o t="23" s="10">                 <!-- wares list container -->
        <o t="24" s="15"/>            <!-- t=24 ? -->
        <o t="26" s="0" v="0"/>    <!-- t=26 ? -->
        <o t="26" s="0" v="0"/>
        <o t="26" s="0" v="0"/>
        <o t="26" s="0" v="0"/>
    </o>                                     <!-- end wares list container -->

...

    <o id="8290" t="7" s="SS_SH_B_M5" r="2">  <!-- ship (octopus) -->
        <o t="23" s="10">                                    <!-- wares container -->
            <o t="24" s="4"/>                                <!-- again? -->
            <o t="26" s="6" v="8287"/>                  <!-- again? -->
            <o t="26" s="4" v="0"/>
            <o t="26" s="0" v="0"/>
            <o t="26" s="0" v="0"/>
        </o>
    </o>
</o>

Which, to me, looks as though the OWP has a set of wares of it's own, but also contains some fighters - and they have their own wares as well. Having a 'v' value doesn't help because I thought that generally applied to video (such as on the advertising blimps).

28 - I'm guessing this is debris in "new" sectors that hasn't been moved into x3_universe_debris.xml?

[exogenesis]

Interesting, possibly looking in-game at properties of that OWP & docked octopus might reveal further info.