Fleet subordinates left behind when leader resupplies - Save Requested

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Fleet subordinates left behind when leader resupplies - Save Requested

Post by Scoob »

Hi,

This bug does not survive a save/reload cycle, plus it's a bit random when it occurs. I'll describe what I'm seeing...

A fleet is operating in a sector where the player has an Equipment Dock. The lead ship decides it needs repairs, and heads to said Equipment Dock. All good. It arrives, repairs and heads back to its "Protect Position" location. When said lead ship travelled to the Equipment Dock, its subordinates followed it there. They then proceed to wait for it as it repairs. However, while the lead ship returns to it's patrol location, the subordinate fleet becomes stuck. Not moving from their position near the station where they were waiting.

Saving and reloading at this point will usually wake them up, upon loading all subordinates will fly back to their leader. If I issue a "Recall Subordinates" on the leader, nothing happens, the subordinates all remain stuck. If I give the subordinates a fly to command, then cancel it, they wake up and start following their leader again.

The result of all this is often entire fleets - bar the leader - are out of position. In my case, the Fleet was one defending the Xenon gate in Hatikvah's Choice I. The leader took some damage, headed to an Equipment Dock I'd built in the same sector - a few hundred km to the South - with the fleet trailing behind. It docked, repaired, and headed back, but the subordinate fleet remained parked near the Equipment Dock.

If a Subordinate chooses to go for repairs, things function as they should. It's just when the Leader does so, that things break.

Note: this happens with INDEPENDENT fleets. If I have an Equipment Dock or Shipyard where the Fleet is subordinate and set to the "Position Defence" role, they work correctly. Subordinates may still follow a leader when it returns for repair, but they'll follow it back too.

So, by having a solid support network - aka that well-supplied Equipment Dock - is actually hurting my defence, as ship will often be stuck out of position.
Last edited by Tranxalive on Tue, 7. Jul 26, 14:30, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Editing the title to say that a save has been requested from the user.
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Re: Fleet subordinates left behind when leader resupplies - Save Requested

Post by Tranxalive »

Scoob wrote: Sun, 5. Jul 26, 00:07 (Quoting for the notification.)
While the issue itself may survive a save/load cycle, it would still be much appreciated, and very helpful if you could provide a save before the issue occurs, or where we could reproduce it upon loading. :)
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Re: Fleet subordinates left behind when leader resupplies - Save Requested

Post by Scoob »

Tranxalive wrote: Tue, 7. Jul 26, 14:31 While the issue itself may survive a save/load cycle, it would still be much appreciated, and very helpful if you could provide a save before the issue occurs, or where we could reproduce it upon loading. :)
I can certainly try. So, a save as the leader starts to head for repairs with the subordinates trailing would suffice?

Note: One point that might be relevant, subordinates are on BOMBARD duty, but while there's no valid Bombard target near the leader, they don't move. Will try to confirm this, and snag a save. I might have to manually damage the lead ship myself, as it's been quiet for a while now. Though I was wanting to see if the Subordinates would wake up when a Bombard target does get close to the leader.

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