Game looking different across different PC systems

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Game looking different across different PC systems

Post by Kexa2Heya »

Hello,
since Tomonor kindly asked me in the Discord group, after I mentioned that I had the fortune to see the game across 4 different GPUs and the game looked sligthly different each time, he mentioned coments under marketing videos accusing Egosoft for misrepresenting the game with boosted graphics. So I'm posting this here on the Tech. support forum as per his suggestion.

So the GPUs I had the chance to use were AMD RX 7900 GRE, Gainward RTX 4070super oc and Asus prime RTX 4070super and GTX 1650 in my laptop. This whole thing might come down to varying hardware configuration and drivers but there were some visual differences in the game visuals across all these cards. RX 7900 GRE had the best visual performance, sadly had to part ways since it couldn't handle production side of my life well enough. Gainward RX 4070s was adding jagged edges and a few artifacts of stretched textures, but that one was an absolute outlier since it was faulty out of the box. The video was constantly cutting out. Now I'm running on Asus Prime RTX 4070 super and this one looks about the same as the 7900 gre did. All this can be most likely chalked up to drivers maturing over time since this isn't the only game I've noticed this behaviour and a difference in case of my laptop, a difference in resolution.
Sadly I won't be able to post all the screenshots at this moment since my 2nd motherboard in the PC decided to make a fuss (RTL 8125B and WIndows 11 decided not to be friends anymore and the IO in the back including the
2.5 gbe Lan and WiFi part just stopped working) so I'm waiting for replacement. First Gigabyte Aorus B650i ultra BIOS chip kicked the bucket after 6 months and now the Asrock one after a year. So once I'll get the replacement and hence the access to those screenshots I'll update this post with further images from my current RTX 4070super and perhaps 7900GRE if they are still around.

PC HW I'm running:
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600
GPU: Asus Prime RTX 4070 super
RAM: Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR5 5600MHz CL36
MB: currently none, before RMA: Asrock A620i Lightning wifi

Laptop is HP Pavilion Gaming 17t
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz
GPU: nVidia GTX 1650 4GB
RAM: 32GB DDR4 2666 MHz
with native 1920x1080p monitor

Secondary monitor is Uperfect 18" K118 GR18BQ (2560x1600p) monitor.

In the meanwhile here is a few pictures from 1650 laptop taken through windows screenshot functionality.
settings used:
[img]https://imgur.com/Mde67JY[/img]
[img]https://imgur.com/imwXMDX[/img]

Main difference between 1920x1080p and 2560x1600p is in the way lighting and details appear.
1080p
[img]https://imgur.com/GQPRsHR[/img]
1600p
[img]https://imgur.com/5JBcAwe[/img]

1080p
[img]https://imgur.com/oUlyAKt[/img]
1600p
[img]https://imgur.com/y5ry57y[/img]

Also had this weird bug where screenshots taken through Steam got crumpled by compression, but when I took them with the snipping tool they didn't get compressed. This, somehow, resolved itself when I plugged in
second monitor. :? I suspect some Windows 11 dark voodoo mojo.
Steam screenshot crushed by compression
[img]https://imgur.com/htcJfRU[/img]
Snipping tool (of all things).
[img]https://imgur.com/bPwmACB[/img]
Last edited by Kexa2Heya on Fri, 15. May 26, 09:35, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Game looking different across different PC systems

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RAM: Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR5 5600MHz CL36
Although unrelated to your issue, you are technically running the AMD CPU out of spec. It tops at 5200 MHz reliably, with anything above being for OC experts who really know what they are doing as memory stability is not something one usually wants to mess around with. If you encounter weird stability issues, crashes, power cycles, etc. then that would likely be the cause.

Regarding different GPUs creating noticeably different images... Older Nvidia GPUs, like the 1650, likely do not support some more modern features resulting in the settings, driver or game shaders having to work around the different limits. For example, the 1650 will not be able to use DLSS, and in games with raytracing support it would not be able to use raytracing.

Multi-display setups are just a little buggy both from Windows and GPU driver side. For best experience I recommend using a single display, and if you have to use multiple displays then you may need to compromise and expect things to not always work as you would expect.

I cannot comment on the exact details in the images you linked as you used an image provider that does not support viewing from the UK.
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Re: Game looking different across different PC systems

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Imperial Good wrote: Thu, 14. May 26, 23:07 RAM: Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR5 5600MHz CL36

Although unrelated to your issue, you are technically running the AMD CPU out of spec. It tops at 5200 MHz reliably, with anything above being for OC experts who really know what they are doing as memory stability is not something one usually wants to mess around with. If you encounter weird stability issues, crashes, power cycles, etc. then that would likely be the cause.
>>I do not get this part. There is no OC applied to my system. The memory is running within it's specified frequency in the AMD EXPO mode and the CPU is slightly undervolted at -100mV. That helps with the temps a bit, roughly -8 °C when conpared to standard voltage. So I do not get where the out of spec part came from. And Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR5 5600MHz CL36 is a normal RAM. Here is a link https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technol ... B0BD5PN65B. When I was buying it at 2024 I didn't go for 6000MHz kit since there was some instability at the time and with the parts of my choosing the difference would be around 1 to 2 fps tops.
Regarding different GPUs creating noticeably different images... Older Nvidia GPUs, like the 1650, likely do not support some more modern features resulting in the settings, driver or game shaders having to work around the different limits. For example, the 1650 will not be able to use DLSS, and in games with raytracing support it would not be able to use raytracing.
>>Aye, I agree with this part. That is why I also posted the settings here. That way there is a transparency about the settings that I'm using for the testing for both of my GPUs. I'll use the same settings on my RTX 4070s once the PC is running and I'll post the pictures here in FHD, QHD and I'll hopefully force 4k. By using the same settings we may see the differences that may occur while rendering the game on different resolutions, with different GPUs.
Multi-display setups are just a little buggy both from Windows and GPU driver side. For best experience I recommend using a single display, and if you have to use multiple displays then you may need to compromise and expect things to not always work as you would expect.
>>Aye, I've always had only one display working. When connecting the external one, the native monitor fitted to laptop was disabled.
I cannot comment on the exact details in the images you linked as you used an image provider that does not support viewing from the UK.
>>Let me guess, something something age verification laws... Right? Any idea how to post images here directly or of any services that allow sharing pictures without this age verification thing that still works in the UK?
VPN should still be able to bypass this i think. Unless the UK lawmakers made VPN illegal.
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Re: Game looking different across different PC systems

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You could use for example Dropbox or Google where you upload the pictures and then add links to them here.
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Re: Game looking different across different PC systems

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Kexa2Heya wrote: Fri, 15. May 26, 09:24 >>I do not get this part. There is no OC applied to my system. The memory is running within it's specified frequency in the AMD EXPO mode and the CPU is slightly undervolted at -100mV. That helps with the temps a bit, roughly -8 °C when conpared to standard voltage. So I do not get where the out of spec part came from. And Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR5 5600MHz CL36 is a normal RAM. Here is a link https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technol ... B0BD5PN65B. When I was buying it at 2024 I didn't go for 6000MHz kit since there was some instability at the time and with the parts of my choosing the difference would be around 1 to 2 fps tops.
Out of spec for the CPU. The RAM may be ratted at that frequency but for the CPU it is technically an overclock. Sometimes these work, other times they can cause subtle memory stability issues. If you ever encounter random crashes or the computer spontaneously power cycling then that is likely the cause. Not that I am saying you will, sometimes these OCs do just work.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/process ... -7600.html
Under "Connectivity":
Max Memory Speed
2x1R DDR5-5200
2x2R DDR5-5200
4x1R DDR5-3600
4x2R DDR5-3600
Kexa2Heya wrote: Fri, 15. May 26, 09:24 Let me guess, something something age verification laws... Right?
Not directly... The imgur site literally blocks UK IP addresses. No one in the UK can view it directly. Yes technically a VPN connection with an exit in another country might be able to access the site, assuming imgur does not also block VPNs. The site owners claim this was done due to them wanting to take a moral high ground with respect to the age verification laws, but it is more likely because they are super lazy and do not want to deal with any kind of responsibility.
Kexa2Heya wrote: Fri, 15. May 26, 09:24 Any idea how to post images here directly or of any services that allow sharing pictures without this age verification thing that still works in the UK?
To add to what BitByte posted above, Microsoft OneDrive can also support file/image sharing. As these services have a finite hosting limit, it is usually the case that you provide the images then remove them in a year or two once the problem has been solved to free up the space.
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Re: Game looking different across different PC systems

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>>I do not get this part. There is no OC applied to my system. The memory is running within it's specified frequency in the AMD EXPO mode and the CPU is slightly undervolted at -100mV. That helps with the temps a bit, roughly -8 °C when conpared to standard voltage. So I do not get where the out of spec part came from. And Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR5 5600MHz CL36 is a normal RAM. Here is a link https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technol ... B0BD5PN65B. When I was buying it at 2024 I didn't go for 6000MHz kit since there was some instability at the time and with the parts of my choosing the difference would be around 1 to 2 fps tops.
Out of spec for the CPU. The RAM may be ratted at that frequency but for the CPU it is technically an overclock. Sometimes these work, other times they can cause subtle memory stability issues. If you ever encounter random crashes or the computer spontaneously power cycling then that is likely the cause. Not that I am saying you will, sometimes these OCs do just work.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/process ... -7600.html
Under "Connectivity":
Max Memory Speed
2x1R DDR5-5200
2x2R DDR5-5200
4x1R DDR5-3600
4x2R DDR5-3600
Never actually noticed that when I was choosing the PC parts. Huh guess I've lucked out on that front.

Anyways here are the updated links and this time from my PC too:

Main difference between 1920x1080p and 2560x1600p is in the way lighting and details appear. Those differences are subtle and
somewhat hard to spot, so for the best result I recommend downloading the pictures and flicking through them quickly

Laptop GTX 1650
1080p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/doqpwbhi ... e0b7r&dl=0
1600p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xss6k2g5 ... cedqc&dl=0

1080p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vnd6738m ... ngv2k&dl=0
1600p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2g2k9kwc ... e0kbs&dl=0

PC RTX 4070s
1080p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oiomakpn ... 1pixj&dl=0
1600p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pcaqpy52 ... pmvze&dl=0
3200p
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9hrawi36 ... 4t287&dl=0

And one picture where everything is set to high with Photo color correction:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g20v2lli ... c1odt&dl=0

Also had this weird bug where screenshots taken through Steam got crumpled by compression, but when I took them with the snipping tool they didn't get compressed. This, somehow, resolved itself when I plugged in
second monitor. :? I suspect some Windows 11 dark voodoo mojo.
Steam screenshot crushed by compression
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rpuqalcd ... vzqdl&dl=0
Snipping tool (of all things).
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1x8mqa7c ... k3lqg&dl=0

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