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70 Senators have passed a law to stop Trump from bombing Iran, seems there are a few sites reporting this, but not sure how this will work out? will the bombing stop completely? it does seem to be legit, from my searches. I did see the senate doing a vote on this, but seems to have been delayed. Soo as time of writing, this could be legit. Lets hope so? or will Trump still think he is above everyone and keeps striking Iran.
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Now here is weird stuff I see in Polish media, but cannot find confirmation in english media - weirdly I usually find that those informations are actually correct (e.g. like with those F-15s shot down).


The weird news is that some strange things going on in Iraq:
- Electricity blackout in Iraq
- Reports about clashes between possible US helicopter/paratrooper force and Iraqi forces in Iraq
- U.S. Embassy in Baghdad urging US citizens to leave the country


This kinda looks like some Iraqi forces switching side to Iran?
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Definately wouldn't surprise me if this whole area ignites.
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Spain was forced to concede by cooperating with the US military because the Americans threatened to halt all trade with them, and they expect "ALL" Europeans to cooperate with them...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62gg44 ... e076e#post

I already see at least 1 Globemaster III heading towards the direction of Spain on Flightradar24.

If we in Europe are going to truly be free, we need to tell the Americans to go away and stick with that decision. Call their bluffs. Prove to the entire world how petty the Americans truly are if they go through with such threats.
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PersonyPerson wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 20:27 Spain was forced to concede by cooperating with the US military because the Americans threatened to halt all trade with them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62gg44 ... e076e#post

I already see at least 1 Globemaster III heading towards the direction of Spain on Flightradar24.

If we in Europe are going to truly be free, we need to tell the Americans to go away and stick with that decision. Call their bluffs. Prove to the entire world how petty the Americans truly are if they go through with such threats.
Spain is saying this is not true , still no plans to allow US to use it's base's.
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mr.WHO wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 20:03 Now here is weird stuff I see in Polish media, but cannot find confirmation in english media - weirdly I usually find that those informations are actually correct (e.g. like with those F-15s shot down).

The weird news is that some strange things going on in Iraq:
- Electricity blackout in Iraq
- Reports about clashes between possible US helicopter/paratrooper force and Iraqi forces in Iraq
- U.S. Embassy in Baghdad urging US citizens to leave the country

This kinda looks like some Iraqi forces switching side to Iran?
There's a collective group in Iraq called the "Popular Mobilisation Forces". They're technically part of the Iraqi military that's in reality independent and loyal to Iran. Formed as a direct result of the previous illegal American war, when the Iraqi government made very broad coalitions of people to fight in their military against Islamic State. After Islamic State was defeated, they didn't disband the PMF, keeping them around to keep the Shia communities onside (I suppose).

Of course it wouldn't surprise me if the Americans couldn't even be bothered to make the distinction and attack the actual Iraqi military which has no desire to be a part of this conflict.
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So the three F-15s that were lost the other day were shot down by a Kuwaiti Super Hornet.

That's . . . astonishing.

If that can be confirmed, the first ever losses of the F-15 in Air-to-air combat would be friendly fire. . .

What exactly do the Americans think they're doing?!
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matthewfarmery wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 19:31 70 Senators have passed a law to stop Trump from bombing Iran, seems there are a few sites reporting this, but not sure how this will work out? will the bombing stop completely? it does seem to be legit, from my searches. I did see the senate doing a vote on this, but seems to have been delayed. Soo as time of writing, this could be legit. Lets hope so? or will Trump still think he is above everyone and keeps striking Iran.
No they haven't vote failed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62gg44 ... 423aa#post
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TSM wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 20:32
PersonyPerson wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 20:27 Spain was forced to concede by cooperating with the US military because the Americans threatened to halt all trade with them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62gg44 ... e076e#post

I already see at least 1 Globemaster III heading towards the direction of Spain on Flightradar24.

If we in Europe are going to truly be free, we need to tell the Americans to go away and stick with that decision. Call their bluffs. Prove to the entire world how petty the Americans truly are if they go through with such threats.
Spain is saying this is not true , still no plans to allow US to use it's base's.
Oops. I'm so used to us in Europe just caving into American pressure for everything that I assumed it was true at face value.

I think the Americans are so used to it too in that even they automatically assumed Spain would change their mind. No idea where they think they got the confirmation from though.

Glad to see that Spain is standing their ground. Double points for them for correcting American disinformation. :)

The EU Commission is also backing Spain. It's obvious that Trump (like Brexiteers) has no idea how the EU works. If he tries to sanction Spain, then he'll have to sanction the whole of the EU, and that will only end badly for the US.
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PersonyPerson wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 01:09
TSM wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 20:32
PersonyPerson wrote: Wed, 4. Mar 26, 20:27 Spain was forced to concede by cooperating with the US military because the Americans threatened to halt all trade with them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62gg44 ... e076e#post

I already see at least 1 Globemaster III heading towards the direction of Spain on Flightradar24.

If we in Europe are going to truly be free, we need to tell the Americans to go away and stick with that decision. Call their bluffs. Prove to the entire world how petty the Americans truly are if they go through with such threats.
Spain is saying this is not true , still no plans to allow US to use it's base's.
Oops. I'm so used to us in Europe just caving into American pressure for everything that I assumed it was true at face value.

I think the Americans are so used to it too in that even they automatically assumed Spain would change their mind. No idea where they think they got the confirmation from though.

Glad to see that Spain is standing their ground. Double points for them for correcting American disinformation. :)

The EU Commission is also backing Spain. It's obvious that Trump (like Brexiteers) has no idea how the EU works. If he tries to sanction Spain, then he'll have to sanction the whole of the EU, and that will only end badly for the US.
I think Spain is on right track :D . you got cought out by BBC quoting Leavitt Trumps erm Cheearleader i guess . BBC did not write headline well :D , I live in UK but did not vote for Brexit :lol:
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So anyone here heard of Iran sending a group to assassinate Trump? Now it seems that according to the pentagon, there was, and that group has been killed. So now it seems there is a new reason for this war, because Iran went after Trump???

But it now even more silly, In a new leaked report, The Military Freedom foundation, has been getting complaints from all arms of the military. , that Pete Hegseth has been sending sealed orders to commanders, to tell American troops, "that this is gods divine plan" and quoting passages from the book of Revelation, and quoting Trump was sent to light a signal fire and other such crap.

So, now, they are using religion as another bloody excuse for this war. It's not looking good.

Edit, Remember when I mentioned the Kurds? Well, Trump has leaked a report to Israel and Fox, that thousands of Kurds have engaged Iran ground forces. This is 100% false. So Trump has put these Iraq Kurds at risk. Its clear they wants a ground war, and just needed an excuse to do it.

Edit, its funny, that even those in Trump's own circus can't get their facts straight, so its clear they haven't got an idea what to tell the public, and how many lies they just keep spinning. While war in the middle east continues to intensify. :evil:
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matthewfarmery wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 09:13 So anyone here heard of Iran sending a group to assassinate Trump? Now it seems that according to the pentagon, there was, and that group has been killed. So now it seems there is a new reason for this war, because Iran went after Trump???

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That is the reason they are going with now? Because Caroline Leavitt just said that they attacked Iran because and I quote: "The president had a feeling, again, based on fact, that Iran was going to strike the US." Whatever a feeling based on fact might be.
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clakclak wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 09:56
matthewfarmery wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 09:13 So anyone here heard of Iran sending a group to assassinate Trump? Now it seems that according to the pentagon, there was, and that group has been killed. So now it seems there is a new reason for this war, because Iran went after Trump???

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That is the reason they are going with now? Because Caroline Leavitt just said that they attacked Iran because and I quote: "The president had a feeling, again, based on fact, that Iran was going to strike the US." Whatever a feeling based on fact might be.
well, it is a fact that he's all over the Epstein files and is being accused of raping children so he felt it was necessary to attack Iran to pull attention off that.
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clakclak wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 09:56
matthewfarmery wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 09:13 So anyone here heard of Iran sending a group to assassinate Trump? Now it seems that according to the pentagon, there was, and that group has been killed. So now it seems there is a new reason for this war, because Iran went after Trump???

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That is the reason they are going with now? Because Caroline Leavitt just said that they attacked Iran because and I quote: "The president had a feeling, again, based on fact, that Iran was going to strike the US." Whatever a feeling based on fact might be.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us- ... 026-03-04/

The reasons for this war, just keeps changing every day.
U.S. Defense ​Secretary Pete Hegseth said on Wednesday that President Donald Trump had gotten the "last laugh" after the U.S. military killed an Iranian official who ‌led an effort to assassinate him.
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Well this is getting ugly, Centcom is now asking the pentagon for more intelligence officers to be sent to Florida, (its HQ in Tampa) to help with for at least 100 days, if not longer. which means, this war is going to last a long time, and the American government doesn't have the balls to tell that to the US people.

I also think from some sources, that its looking more and more likely that there will be US boots on the ground, they can't win this war by air strikes alone. The Kurdish leak, I think was to try and get boots on the ground, but that may have backfired. But yeah, I think there will be at some point, then the GOP might draw the line? But America will be up in shit by then.

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So Pete Hegseth is also attacking state media, over the US casualties, saying that the media should be focused on something else, as every time the media reports some deaths, it makes Trump look bad.

But then again, Trump himself said something along the lines, there will be US casualties, that is war. And doesn't mind if there will be any, as its not his family in the firing line is it?
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The director of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Ghebreyesus, says they have verified "13 attacks on healthcare in Iran, and one in Lebanon" since the start of the war.
Hmm, I wonder who's modus operandi has been to attack healthcare facilities... dreadfully predictable.
A little earlier, President Ilham Aliyev said Azerbaijan's armed forces have been instructed to "prepare and implement appropriate retaliatory measures" after it accused Iran of carrying out two drones strikes.

"The targets of the attack were civilian facilities, including the Nakhchivan International Airport and its terminal building, a school, and other civilian sites, all treacherously struck by Iran," the statement adds.
Both from:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62gg44d53xt

So Iran continuing with hitting civilian targets in many countries, including ones that have sod all to do with US/Israel... unsurprising.
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Iran attacking Azerbaijan is rather silly. Azerbaijan is not bound to the Americans, nor does it have an active US military base. I don't see any strategic goal that'll benefit Iran from attacking them. They'll have absolutely no problem shooting back(unlike the GCC who do, as they don't want to be seen to be fighting on the same side as Israel) and the Azeri's have battlefield experience in modern warfare from their recent wars with Armenia. Very bad idea, especially given that Iran has a very large Azeri minority population. There isn't any (major) active Iranian Azerbaijani separatist movements and the vast majority of Iranian Azerbaijanis are very loyal to Iran, however that could easily change if Azerbaijan enters the war. Many might see that their future with Iran on its way to failed statehood may be a lot bleaker than a future with Azerbaijan.
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PersonyPerson wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 17:43 Iran attacking Azerbaijan is rather silly. Azerbaijan is not bound to the Americans, nor does it have an active US military base. I don't see any strategic goal that'll benefit Iran from attacking them. They'll have absolutely no problem shooting back(unlike the GCC who do, as they don't want to be seen to be fighting on the same side as Israel) and the Azeri's have battlefield experience in modern warfare from their recent wars with Armenia. Very bad idea, especially given that Iran has a very large Azeri minority population. There isn't any (major) active Iranian Azerbaijani separatist movements and the vast majority of Iranian Azerbaijanis are very loyal to Iran, however that could easily change if Azerbaijan enters the war. Many might see that their future with Iran on its way to failed statehood may be a lot bleaker than a future with Azerbaijan.
Don't want to go all conspiracy theory on this , but the drone that intended to attack RAF Akrotiri in Cypress did not come from Iran either , recent wars have show alot of the so called false flag going on , who knows.
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TSM wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 18:43
PersonyPerson wrote: Thu, 5. Mar 26, 17:43 Iran attacking Azerbaijan is rather silly. Azerbaijan is not bound to the Americans, nor does it have an active US military base. I don't see any strategic goal that'll benefit Iran from attacking them. They'll have absolutely no problem shooting back(unlike the GCC who do, as they don't want to be seen to be fighting on the same side as Israel) and the Azeri's have battlefield experience in modern warfare from their recent wars with Armenia. Very bad idea, especially given that Iran has a very large Azeri minority population. There isn't any (major) active Iranian Azerbaijani separatist movements and the vast majority of Iranian Azerbaijanis are very loyal to Iran, however that could easily change if Azerbaijan enters the war. Many might see that their future with Iran on its way to failed statehood may be a lot bleaker than a future with Azerbaijan.
Don't want to go all conspiracy theory on this , but the drone that intended to attack RAF Akrotiri in Cypress did not come from Iran either , recent wars have show alot of the so called false flag going on , who knows.
It's not entirely outside the realms of possibility that Mossad (who are known to be deep within Iran's society) got themselves into possession of some Shahed drones and then lobbed them at Azerbaijan from inside Iran. It's probably going to be near impossible to find evidence of that though.

It could just be the Iranians themselves anyway attempting to cause even more global economic damage. Currently there is quite a lot of flights travelling over Azerbaijan through a narrow air corridor which is between Russia and the conflict zone in the Middle East. If Azerbaijan's airspace is closed, it'll cut that route off and will cause a lot more disruption to global air travel.
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There will ne no Democracy for Iran after the war even if the people were to rise up. Trump says he will need to be involved in appointing the next leader. This is remiscent of when America and the UK ousted Mossadegh during Operation Ajax and installed the Shah afterwards. Without the extremely repressive regime of the Shah and his SAVAK it is questionable if muslim extremists would ever have found the backing to topple the government in the first place.

Source on what Trump said: https://www.axios.com/2026/03/05/iran-l ... p-khamenei
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Not sure if this has been covered, but I just learnt that the inept Kash Petal fired a lot of counter intelligence officials last week, and many of them work on Iran cases. But also covered a few other cases, like Jack Smith's cases.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-agents ... ding-iran/

Surely this can't be a coincidence?
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