US - Iran Conflict (Again)

[matthewfarmery]

first US casualties reported.

3 American soldiers killed, 5 seriously injured in war with Iran — US military

but no details on how they died.

But there could be more, I doubt the WH will fully report the facts. And this means, there is even more blood on Trump's hands. and he OK with it. Plus he also saying, the conflict will last weeks, not days.

Condolences to the families, but they should not have to die. This is on Trump and Israel hands. Besides, Trump called injured or dead servicemen, suckers and losers. He won't say anything good about these deaths. Apart from he happy to see people die.

[EGO_Aut]

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Besides, Trump called injured or dead servicemen, suckers and losers. He won't say anything good about these deaths. Apart from he happy to see people die.

Really? Such words from a conscientious objector... he should be ashamed. By the way, how's his heel spur doing?

Fortunate Son:
https://youtu.be/40JmEj0_aVM?si=WKB6RDwIl-vw2NdQ

[mr.WHO]

"Three US F-15 fighter jets accidentally shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, CENTCOM says"

[matthewfarmery]

Trump is now panicking, Trump tried to get a ceasefire with Iran, its been rejected. Iran says there won't be a ceasefire unless its on their terms. Despite saying on social media, that the war will last some time. He clearly hoped this would be over once the supreme leader was killed.

This was grossly under estimated by Trump. How long this war will go on? how long before congress steps in? But this war will not be won just by bombs, if this war was to be finished by America, then boots will need to be on the ground. And I wonder how many of the GOP will support that?

[chew-ie]

"Three US F-15 fighter jets accidentally shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, CENTCOM says"

Read about that a few minutes ago... Ouch

Trump is now panicking, Trump tried to get a ceasefire with Iran, its been rejected. Iran says there won't be a ceasefire unless its on their terms. Despite saying on social media, that the war will last some time. He clearly hoped this would be over once the supreme leader was killed.

This was grossly under estimated by Trump. How long this war will go on? how long before congress steps in? But this war will not be won just by bombs, if this war was to be finished by America, then boots will need to be on the ground. And I wonder how many of the GOP will support that?

He currently states that there will be "likely more deaths" of US soldiers. US citizens, please do your thing. REP election poster stated "Don't vote Harris, she'll lead US into war. Vote Trump instead". Next chance - among many - to realize he lied.

Oh and ... of course: there are weapons of mass-destruction involved!11elf!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... itary-iran

[clakclak]

"Three US F-15 fighter jets accidentally shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, CENTCOM says"

That is 3 more planes than Iran shot down if I am not mistaken?

[mr.WHO]

That is 3 more planes than Iran shot down if I am not mistaken?

Well, quoting Murphy's law - there is no such thing as "friendly" fire and loss is as loss.

[clakclak]

Indeed, speaking of losses, apparently Ayatollah Arafi has been killed. Let's see who will be next in the hot seat.

[matthewfarmery]

Looks like the UK is been dragged into this war, the PM has given permission to use UK bases for the US, to hit Iranian missile sites. Hells bells, we should not be dragged into this war. But the bloody PM has given the green light to help America (an illegal war by any standard) Now the shit will hit the fan. From early reports, an RAF base has already been hit.

Nice bloody job Keir Starmer, The sooner you gets kicked from your position, the bloody better. We should not be dragged into another sodding Middle eastern war, clearly, can't remember what bloody happened last time.

Now it seems, that the new message from the pentagon is, we not started this war. And the corrupt Lindsey Graham is saying, its no longer about the regime change, but getting rid of their ability to make missiles and stuff.

And no one is saying what the objectives are, not Trump, not anyone else from a high position.

So yeah, bloody Keir Starmer for dragging the UK into this mess. I really hopes he gets roasted in the next parliament question time.

Edit

This wil quickly dragging us close to WW3

Edit

British base in Cyprus was hit by drone.

Bloody idiot for dragging the UK into this illegal war. I really hope that Fing idiot gets roasted.
https://time.com/7382076/british-base-h ... or-threat/

[mr.WHO]

Looks like the UK is been dragged into this war, the PM has given permission to use UK bases for the US, to hit Iranian missile sites. Hells bells, we should not be dragged into this war. But the bloody PM has given the green light to help America (an illegal war by any standard) Now the shit will hit the fan. From early reports, an RAF base has already been hit.

Nice bloody job Keir Starmer, The sooner you gets kicked from your position, the bloody better. We should not be dragged into another sodding Middle eastern war, clearly, can't remember what bloody happened last time.

Worse, it's after UK official whined on TV whole day yesterday, that they don't want to participate, because London is in range of Iranian missiles and they have no missile defense.

It's either the greatest bait or the stupidest thing this year.

[matthewfarmery]

As of the time of writing, 16 countries are now involved. That only going to grow.

[chew-ie]

Spain refuses usage oft their bases for US attacks in Iran:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... ro-sanchez

Germanys chancellor trainee is on the way to the US.

France is increasing nuclear arsenal and intensifies maneuvers with their allies. On that note, poland wants nukes, too in order to geht independent from the US in that regard.

... -.-

[clakclak]

Spain refuses usage oft their bases for US Attacke in Iran:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... ro-sanchez

Germanys chancellor trainee is on the way to the US.

France is increasing nuclear arsenal and intensifies maneuvers with their allies. On that note, poland wants nukes, too in order to geht independent from the US in that regard.

... -.-

I'll be honest, if there is one country on the planet where I can 100% understand a desire to have nukes than it would be Poland.

As for Merz going to America one can only hope that he doesn't say something incredibly undiplomatic that somehow ends up with us on the side of Iran in the one sided beatdown that is allready unfolding. The guy has absolutely no filter, than again when it comes to Trump that may actually be an advantage, as Merz seems to actually like him on a personal level.

As for Spain got on them for sticking to their principles I guess? Not like it will make any difference anyway.

[matthewfarmery]

From a few YT clips, some GOP are saying "this isn't a war" "It's just a regime change" Now it seems that Trump wants to go after Cuba. So he seems to be tired of this war already, so he wants to start another one. WW3 is coming

[Chips]

British base in Cyprus was hit by drone.

Bloody idiot for dragging the UK into this illegal war. I really hope that Fing idiot gets roasted.
https://time.com/7382076/british-base-h ... or-threat/

Just a quick FYI - if you check the time Starmer's statement was made, and the time of the... barely hit on the base in Cyprus, there's approx 3 hours?

If you check the air speed of a shahed drone, and the distance from Iran - it was probably launched 6 hours prior to the announcement.

The hit wasn't in response, the "hit" would have happened anyway. Iran wants chaos to ensue.

[matthewfarmery]

Iran has every right to defend itself. But still, the UK should not be helping the US under any circumstances. The issue is, by opening up British controlled bases to the US, just makes the UK a greater target. However the PM has said on record not that long ago, that the UK will not help the US to strike Iran.

But still, giving permission to use those bases, is still plain wrong.

So, its not just about causing chaos, but a country that is defending itself from two out of control countries that shot at it first. This is still America's fault, regardless on the current issues. And things are getting worse. Even Trump seems more and more detached from reality, as he talking about a statue and his ballroom currently. While Pete Hegseth is making a total buffoon of himself and making shit up as he goes along.

Pete Hegseth "no stupid rules of engagement"

Basically, This could lead to nukes been dropped then? Those words are from a dictator state led country who doesn't give a damn. So yeah, anything goes.

[Chips]

Iran has every right to defend itself. But still, the UK should not be helping the US under any circumstances. The issue is, by opening up British controlled bases to the US, just makes the UK a greater target. However the PM has said on record not that long ago, that the UK will not help the US to strike Iran.

But still, giving permission to use those bases, is still plain wrong.

So, its not just about causing chaos, but a country that is defending itself from two out of control countries that shot at it first. This is still America's fault, regardless on the current issues. And things are getting worse. Even Trump seems more and more detached from reality, as he talking about a statue and his ballroom currently. While Pete Hegseth is making a total buffoon of himself and making shit up as he goes along.

So it's okay for Iran to strike the UK and we should just go "ah okay" (this obviously does depend where that drone was launched from).
However, it's ok to watch it strike other nations; including nations that currently have hundreds of thousands of UK citizens within them, and are our *allies*, be attacked?

In response to our allies being hit, we should just say "yeah, not our problem".

Sir Keir had said UK aircraft were "in the sky" in the Middle East as part of a defensive operation to protect its allies and citizens in the region, but said the UK "played no role" in the strikes.

On Sunday, he said British aircraft had successfully intercepted Iranian strikes, but added: "Our partners in the Gulf have asked us to do more to defend them and it's my duty to protect British lives."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqj9g11p1ezo

You are entitled to your opinion upon what the UK should do, I'll just disagree *at this point*. All for supporting our allies in a *defensive* manner.


Starmer has a hard line to walk and tough decisions to make. He didn't allow UK bases to be used to strike Iran in the initial attack as he believed it's not a legal action by the US (though not said I don't think?). But he is going to allow the bases to be used to *defend* the region by hitting missile launch sites *only*. For that, it's B2 bombers, that's Fairford in the UK and Diego Garcia.
From what Gen Petraeus has said on the news, neither did many of the gulf states *either*.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-NUhl-8owk


You're right to worry that this could escalate further and pull the UK in even more. However, it could also pull the UK in even if we did nothing. If Iran hits hotels filled with British civilians, are we supposed to just go "ah, sucks to be them... nothing to be done!". If Iran starts obliterating an entire city of regional allies as they've run out of capabilities to defend themselves, should we be abandoning allies in the region - Bahrain, Qatar - who've specifically asked for help? "Sorry, you're on your own - have fun!"?

Over the past six weeks, the UK had been building up some military assets in the Middle East, to protect its existing base at Akrotiri in Cyprus and to help key allies in the Gulf. A joint UK-Qatari squadron relocated from Lincolnshire to Qatar in January, ready to act in self-defence if the Gulf country and others in the region were attacked.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... srael-iran

I'd *really* hope not; but as said, entitled to your own view about that.

(same article as quote from before, but also relevant again to the request for defence from regional allies).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jk922dgjgo


So to give an indication as to what they're up against... as I'm not sure people appreciate the sheer volume of what's going on.

As of Sunday afternoon, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) defence ministry said it had so far "dealt with" 165 incoming ballistic missiles, two cruise missiles and 541 Iranian drones.

In Bahrain, a friend alerted me on Sunday morning that the airport was under attack after having a sleepless night.

If you fear all out war and destruction, then absolutely Trump was an absolute .... to kick all this off. But it is what it is. You don't abandon other allies just because we are angry about Trump. You help defend them. If all these gulf states end up in smoking ruins from thousands of incoming bombs that are indeed to cause havoc and destruction, despite them playing no part in letting the US strike Iran from their ground (if Patraeus was accurate) then the impact upon those allies, world trade, oil, economic wellbeing - could be very high indeed. IMO doing our best to defend allies, and permitting the US to destroy launch sites that require those long range very heavy bombing capabilities to prevent Iran attacking said allies, is an acceptable action to achieve.

I believe Starmer is doing the best he can, frankly, and also (to me) the right thing for our allies in the region.
Also, Trump's an even bigger .... than I gave him credit for.

[TSM]

Looks like the UK is been dragged into this war, the PM has given permission to use UK bases for the US, to hit Iranian missile sites. Hells bells, we should not be dragged into this war. But the bloody PM has given the green light to help America (an illegal war by any standard) Now the shit will hit the fan. From early reports, an RAF base has already been hit.

Nice bloody job Keir Starmer, The sooner you gets kicked from your position, the bloody better. We should not be dragged into another sodding Middle eastern war, clearly, can't remember what bloody happened last time.

Worse, it's after UK official whined on TV whole day yesterday, that they don't want to participate, because London is in range of Iranian missiles and they have no missile defense.

It's either the greatest bait or the stupidest thing this year.

UK has missile defence system called Saber , also Iran does don't have missile range to hit UK , as for UK's part is this its to defend our aliies and bases in the area , Starmer said there are no plans to help with air strikes , the so called regime change cannot happen unless troops are deployed ,which Starmer and Trump are disagreeing on already , Trumps approval rating it already low, and of course all this to destract for Epstien files and hoping the midterms go his way as according to https://www.reuters.com/world/us/just-o ... 026-03-01/ . 1 in 4 Armericans agree about Iran. not sure how trust worth Reuters is or any other US News Network for that matter.

[clakclak]

Things are about to get expansive.

About 10% of the worlds container fleet is caught in the Hormuz backup.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 026-03-02/

Gas in Europe is up by roughly 45% as well.

Source: https://www.euronews.com/business/2026/ ... production

[Usenko]

"Three US F-15 fighter jets accidentally shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, CENTCOM says"

We don't know the details of how this has happened, but right off the bat, the usual way you avoid these kinds of incidents is good coordination with allies.

Want to bet that hasn't happened here?