[#4826] NPCs ship orders halted at player PHQ shipyard because many Terraforming drones queue waiting resources. - WAI

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[#4826] NPCs ship orders halted at player PHQ shipyard because many Terraforming drones queue waiting resources. - WAI

Post by tatakau »

The Yaki especially used to be ravenous purchasers of my ships, it was especially fun watching entire wings of Moreyas and Kuraokamis spew out into 'friendly' space and start wreaking havoc!

I did my very first long range teleport to Memory of Profit IX though, and now hours later I've realized that no one is buying ships from my shipyard anymore! I even set everything to "No Restrictions" and dropped the ship price down to the minimum 50%, and still no one buys!

It is quite infuriating... I've even tried firing / relocating my ship trader, but that option is greyed out.

I don't know what to do...

Save file is here. 100% vanilla game, no mods.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q-oTb1 ... sp=sharing

Please help! :gruebel:

edit: I own pretty much every blueprint I'll ever need, minus L and XL ships, but that shouldn't matter because my PHQ doesn't even have L or XL ship fabricators. I have 4x S/M construction docks. I definitely have all of the wares I need also, no shortage of any components or hull or electronics etc. I am easily able to build ships for myself, it's only that NPCs won't buy from me anymore! (they used to)
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building ships at my PHQ shipyard

Post by Alan Phipps »

All factions have 'jobs' scripts that control what ships they need, to do what, and where. If the Yaki currently have all the ships they need to meet their jobs then they won't construct or buy more ships until they start taking ship losses. Unseen interplay between Yaki and other NPC factions may also change the situation, as would an unintentional change of your rep with the Yaki for example, or even the destruction of Yaki infrastructure (HQ) by factions (typically Terran) leading to jobs reductions. These *may* be factors in reduced ship sales to them.

Maybe see what other factions you could sell ships to - rep allowing.
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building ships at my PHQ shipyard

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I'm not sure that's it... I have a second shipyard in Asteroid Belt that I was restricting to my faction only, but switched it over to No Restrictions.

VIG and YAK filled up the entire ship queue INSTANTLY.

I've also been using Null Protocol and sowing chaos between as many factions as I could. There is definitely a ton of war happening right now, ships being destroyed constantly.

I'm pretty sure this is a bug, and not an issue of demand.

RHA, MIN, ANT, and TER are also building at my Asteroid Belt shipyard too... they won't stop buying!

But no one will touch my PHQ shipyard. ><
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building ships at my PHQ shipyard

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I loaded your save and can see the problems:

Your Savage Spur 1 wharf has both ship construction modules under construction and not yet available, while your PHQ ship construction is set to 'Guardians only' (ie excluding Yaki) with 153 ships in the construction queue (probably all non-Guardian) and so no construction.
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building ships at my PHQ shipyard

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Yes, but when I switch it away from "Guardians Only" to "Guardians and Yaki", or even No Restrictions, that still doesn't solve the problem.

You mentioned the Ships in Construction though... that is the ongoing terraforming project, which is generally stalled because I lack Metallic Microlattice. So, even though the game has queued up a bunch of terraforming drones, they are not building at all because there are no materials for them.

Any time I ask my shipyards to build a ship for ME, it has no problem building it.

Also, I just found that if I cancel the terraforming project, other factions start building ships immediately, no problems.

So I guess the bug is that terraforming projects will block other factions from using your S/M warfs, even if they are not in use.
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building ships at my PHQ shipyard

Post by Alan Phipps »

OK, I'll change the thread title to reflect that particular issue then. Thanks.
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building other ships at my PHQ shipyard because many Terraforming drones queue waiting resources.

Post by sunu »

It's said that player orders take precedence over npc orders.

According to the situation described in this thread this seems to happen also over terraforming drones.

In turn, it seems player's terraforming drones take precedence over npc orders.

Maybe working as intended? Or the order of ... orders needs to change?
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Re: [Bug] NPCs stopped building other ships at my PHQ shipyard because many Terraforming drones queue waiting resources.

Post by Ketraar »

sunu wrote: ↑Thu, 15. Jan 26, 08:07It's said that player orders take precedence over npc orders.
This is correct and TF drones are "just" ships too, so WAI.

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