[#3463] TrackIR Head Tracking Causing Glitching/Flickering In Menus

[Nimrod989]

Version and language (e.g. 7.10 Hotfix 1, English, etc.).

7.5

Whether or not your game is modified using any third party scripts or mods (see note below).

No

Game start being played.

Timelines, ships in all missions.

Exact nature of the problem, where and when it occurs and what you were doing at the time.

I am getting flickering menus with TrackIR head tracking enabled when in a ship, the video below demonstrates this. Disabling head tracking with Ctrl+T stops this.
https://imgur.com/a/SNWthxA

Any possibly relevant changes you have made to your game, system, or software before the issue occurred.

None

Where appropriate, additional symptoms, error messages, links to saves *, screenshots and crash dump files (see this Wiki entry).

No error messages are displayed, the game functions normally, disabling head tracking stops the issue.

Your system specifications in the form of a DxDiag report and vulkaninfo (see this Wiki entry).**

DxDiag is here

https://limewire.com/d/8f1dde2c-39e6-4f ... -Yv9FudLMA


Thanks

[Reart]

Here to confirm this using opentrack via UDP

Also, hoping that for the devs is a small change (I know it never is, but I have some hope):

PLEASE, if a connection with Opentrack is established, overwrite the connection with tobii and give priority to opentrack... I integrated tobii inside opentrack, I don't want to use the tobii native integration for multiple reason (head tracking doesn't work with tobii 4c). X4, which is my favourite space game, is the only one that doesn't support this, because as soon as it sees a tobii in the system it makes it win over everything else, no matter what connection is established. If it is just an "if" somewhere in the code, please please change it <3

[Petar35]

1. Version 7.5 Language English
2. No mods only DLC
3. Timelines, Open Universe the head tracking is different you can no longer look at the map and move the head.
4. Exactly the same issue as in the video above.
Since the new update and Hyperion Pack I've started having issues with track IR. The issue presents itself only when I open up any menu including the map ect... There is a split screen that follows the track ir and makes the game unplayable. I've never had this issue in the past. If I take a screen shot with steam it does not recognize it but you can clearly see from my phone the issue at hand.
I. [img] https://ibb.co/v4Sg0fDS "screenshot from phone"
II.[img] https://ibb.co/tp3StHCQ "screenshot from steam"

[Gryzor22x]

+1 please fix it

[Belzebu]

Hello, I have a big issue after 7.5 patch, while fly everything look goot but if I gonna open any menu including map it start a crazy flickering and no let me read any menu.
If I switch off the track ir I don't have anymore the issue.
Player on steam forum they have the same problem: https://steamcommunity.com/app/392160/d ... 347297299/

[Gryzor22x]

@DEVS when it will be fixed???? 7.1 doesn´t have any track ir glitches!

[Gryzor22x]

bump

[CBJ]

Do not bump threads. When there is new information, we will post let people know.

If you want the problem to be solved quicker then provide the information requested at the top of the forum, along with any further details that you think might be useful to someone trying to find trace and fix the issue. Making pointless "+1" and "fix it" posts achieves absolutely nothing, and if you continue to do it then your posts will be removed.

[Chaka07]

Switching off the keybind for resetting head tracking seemed to work for me. At least the menus don't flicker anymore but there is still an occasional flicker in-game and seems to get worse over time. The default keybind is set to scroll-lock so that is causing some interferance when using Track Ir. Hope this helps in finding the root cause.

[DigitalTales]

I have a similar problem, which makes the game unplayable. https://youtu.be/AbEtTyPlAgU

Game ver: 7.60 (562021) German + TrackIR5 (Drv.ver. 5.5.3)

-No Mods
-The problem occurs in any situation where the game interface is used, such as the map, settings, or the top panel in the ship's cockpit. I’ve tried all the settings available to me. None of them helped
-I haven’t played the game for a couple of years. Since then, I’ve upgraded Windows and completely rebuilt my PC (All drivers are up-to-date)

PS. I can't upload my DX file in this post, so see it here pls. viewtopic.php?p=5285125#p5285125

PSS. Yes, I cleaned the device and the problem was resolved.

[DigitalTales]

Version and language (e.g. 7.10 Hotfix 1, English, etc.).

7.5

Whether or not your game is modified using any third party scripts or mods (see note below).

No

Game start being played.

Timelines, ships in all missions.

Exact nature of the problem, where and when it occurs and what you were doing at the time.

I am getting flickering menus with TrackIR head tracking enabled when in a ship, the video below demonstrates this. Disabling head tracking with Ctrl+T stops this.
https://imgur.com/a/SNWthxA

Any possibly relevant changes you have made to your game, system, or software before the issue occurred.

None

Where appropriate, additional symptoms, error messages, links to saves *, screenshots and crash dump files (see this Wiki entry).

No error messages are displayed, the game functions normally, disabling head tracking stops the issue.

Your system specifications in the form of a DxDiag report and vulkaninfo (see this Wiki entry).**

DxDiag is here

https://limewire.com/d/8f1dde2c-39e6-4f ... -Yv9FudLMA


Thanks

To solve this problem, it's enough to simply clean your device, including the camera and LED. It helped me.
To check whether dirt is the cause of your problem, simply go to the driver settings and set the light sensitivity filter slider to 0. If you see a noisy mess instead of clear lights, then this issue affects you.

[Gryzor22x]

I have all cleaned and having short flashes in menu or map screen... only F9 fix it.

[Taarnah]

hello, i've got exactly this problem, we need a fix please.

[edit] :

all drivers up to date, last windows version, last game version , no mods, track ir 5 with last drivers.

i think i found something when i play with the FPS limiter.

https://youtu.be/pLhIf5cN1SM

When I hover the mouse over the frame rate limiter, the game sometimes switches to 65 FPS, even though the selected limit is much higher.

And when the game is at 65 FPS, the flickering is much less noticeable, but that is not the desired frame rate.

[CBJ]

Just demanding a fix without providing any information whatsoever that would even let us identify whether your problem is actually the same as the one described in this thread is not terribly productive. See the very first sticky thread at the top of the forum you just posted in for the information required.

Note also that several people in this thread have solved this problem themselves, with it turning out not to be a game issue at all in their cases.

[Taarnah]

sorry i was editing...

[Deodus]

Game version: 8.00 (590967)

Started playing today and I can confirm this is still happening on two different computers, one old TrackIR 5 + hat and a brand new TrackIR 5 + ProClip, tried it on two different devices (one AMD laptop with the TrackIR 5 + hat and my intel desktop with the new TrackIR 5 + TrackClip Pro), issue is exactly the same.
Both work without any bug or glitches in MSFS 2020, MSFS2024, Elite: Dangerous, Nuclear Option, Arma Reforger

Playing at 120 fps locked, borderless fullscreen. Desktop is 4k@120hz RTX 4090FE, laptop is 1440p@240Hz RTX 3080

It seems that it's trying to display the centered cockpit with the gray overlay but it glitches and shows for a few frames of the "normal" camera (no gray overlay or menu open) every second. Pausing TrackIR tracking with F9 shows an animation of the camera recentering and the glitches stop.
Almost all menus causes the glitch to happen: Map, Ship menu, options as examples.
From what I tested only the quick Commo Rose style menu and interact menu (to request docking) work correctly.

Tried disabling X, Y and Z axis in the TrackIR profile for X4 but it doesn't change anything.
Tried activating/deactivating Vsync, DLSS FG, DLSS SR and forcing DLSS 4.5 in the NVIDIA app to no avail.
Only thing that fixes the issue is lowering the max FPS, around 100 and lower there's no issue. Setting it to unlimited trigger the glitch constantly.

Video that shows the glitch depending on the FPS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6GHKsQwiI

[Choum]

Hello all,

New player here with a track ir 5,
I also have this issue of this "duplicate overlapping image" (one centered and the overlapping one following the track ir movement) when opening map etc...

It could be greatly reduce if you set your max FPS at 120, issue will be greatly reduced, but may still occur occasionally.
Setting FPS to 100 seems to fix the issue as a workaround, a few glitch may still ocurrs like when you scroll through the keymap list
As others already said disabling the camera with F9 in track ir software also fix the issue immediately.

Game version: 8.00 (590967)
Desktop is 3440*1440@144hz RTX 5080FE (driver 596.21)
Track ir software : 5.5.3

Do you know if it's fixed in the new beta 9 ?

[CBJ]

No TrackIR-related changes have been made in 9.00 so far, and I can't promise that they will.