[#3860] Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

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[#3860] Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

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I was floating in my spacesuit, and I commed a passing ship and used the "Help!" option. They came to me, I requested to dock, I docked. After a while, I left their ship. Later I was in my spacesuit again, and commed another ship, but the "Help!" option was greyed out. This was the case for all passing ships.

Testing this a bit, I started a fresh game, commed for Help and immediately tried asking a separate ship for Help. It was greyed out. So it appears that asking for help puts you into a state where you can't ask again ... only somehow it gets stuck that way once you dock to the ship you asked for help.

Update: I figured out what triggered the issue. I think it's a bug but it's avoidable. Basically, if you request Help, they will eventually come to you and invite you to dock. This seems to be the intended behavior. What I had instead done was requested to dock when they got close. I was able to dock, but they didn't have the "Can you take me to ..." dialog option, and think this interfered with the existing Help request, and caused it to get stuck.
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

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A related bug: If I ask for "Help!" from a ship that's traveling down a highway, that ship just freezes in place, and I'm stuck waiting indefinitely for it to come get me. I also can't cancel the help request to ask someone else. I have to reload.
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

Post by Ketraar »

If you have a save for the com issue please share it. Also please don't add "related" issues to same report, just make a new one. In that you can mention that it may be related, but a ship being stuck is not related to a com option issue.

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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

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Any save should do. I just reproduced the issue from a fresh game (spacesuit-only start). I called a nearby ship, and after it got into range, I requested to dock. It let me dock, but the pilot didn't have the "Can you take me to" dialog option, and once I left the ship, I couldn't request "Help!" from anyone else.
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

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I would also like to say this bug is definitely still prevalent, I typically always save scummed when I blew up and never did the space suit help request before but, I have been locked out of requesting help since the first time I used it in this run.
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Again, please provide a save.
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

Post by 1derAliceland »

I am quite certain I have the same replicate-able bug going as well.

attached is a link to my save file as well:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hrbSwv ... 4C25i/view
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

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@ 1derAliceland: Your link is not open to public sharing.
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

Post by 1derAliceland »

my apologies. The link should be viewable now.

Update on the issue: it persisted for quite a number of hours. But yesterday evening I hailed one ship from my suit just to check, saw that it was still greyed out. A bit later I tried another ship - and it did work! No matter how many ships I saw moving about and attempted to hail in the save above, they didn't give the help option, but something must have triggered those many-hours later that must not have earlier. And literally in-between initiating comms with ships over the course of like, a minute. I wish I could say what it was, but there was about 10h or playtime between that save and when it flipped back to working, so, it's kind of impossible to say. Maybe the freak coincidence that somewhere in space the ship I'd originally hailed those hours earlier happened to get destroyed finally to 'release' the original call for help?
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Re: Suit "Help!" Comm option greyed out - Sensitive to order of player actions.

Post by Moon Muppet »

I also like starting in suit and have encountered this bug a number of times. If you know what you're doing, deleting "<blackboard>
<value name="$rescuer" type="component" value="[NumbersAndStuffHere]"/>
</blackboard>" from your save file fixes it for me. Make backups obviously, and understand that doing this tags your save as modified.

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