[6.20] M/smaller ships won't fire EMP missiles against other M/smaller ships.

[Mookau]

OS: Linux
Version: 6.20
Language: English
Modified: No
Game Start: Budgeted Start

Problem:
S\M ships equipped with EMP missiles won't fire them when attacking another ship of M size or smaller.

How to Reproduce:
Load a fighter with missile launchers, and only EMP missiles. Tell them to attack a (M or smaller) target and they will chase them but never fire a shot.
Alternatively - arm a fighter with mixed weapon loadouts (missiles + normal weapons), they will fire their regular weapons, but not any of their EMP missiles.

Loading the save below, there are two Asps with loadouts as above.
Use either Asp to target any M or smaller ship in the area.
Watch them do their attack runs, noting their missile amounts in their loadout, and that they never use them.

Save File:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OnZA4i ... sp=sharing

Notes:
This bug was actually sent to me by DeadAir. I double checked and tested the bug myself, and can confirm that fighters will never fire EMPs in the above situation.

Research:
There appears to be a bug within the "fight.attack.object.fighter.xml" with the line:

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<do_if value="not $target.isclass.ship_xs and ((not this.ship.dps.lasers.all and this.ship.dps.missiles.all) or (this.ship.dps.missiles.all gt 0 and player.age gt $delaymissiles))">

Firstly the section: "this.ship.dps.missiles.all gt 0" is a problem because EMP missiles have an 'explosiondamage' of 0 (as listed in the missile_emp_mk1_macro.xml file). Thus 'this.ship.dps.missiles.all' can never be greater than 0 for a ship loaded with only EMPs, so ships with mixed weapons will never fire their EMP missiles.

Secondly, the section: "not this.ship.dps.lasers.all and this.ship.dps.missiles.all" is intended to filter out ships so that we are left with ships that only have missiles, however it doesn't check the existence of missile weapons, instead it checks if the weapon groups have any DPS. A 0 here will evaluate to false, so this check fails as well due to EMPs having 0 damage.


Fix:

A fix that maintains the status quo would be to change the check from the missile dps amount to the missile storage amount.

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<do_if value="not $target.isclass.ship_xs and ((not this.ship.dps.lasers.all and this.ship.ammostorage.missile.count) or (this.ship.ammostorage.missile.count gt 0 and player.age gt $delaymissiles))">

Alternatively, though it would be a mechanical change, giving EMP missiles a damage amount should also fix it.

[Mookau]

Beep boop.

Apologies, I know bumping is generally frowned upon, but this issue persists even in the beta. I believe all the posts about bugs since the beta released have drowned this (and my other post) out a bit.

[Alan Phipps]

You have one supportive/similar report from another player.

[Exidrial]

This appears to still be an issue on 7.0

[theazza10]

Can confirm this is still an issue in 8.0 stable.

Made a fleet with Asp's as wing commanders with 1x EMP/2x Tau Accel and they will not shoot their EMP unless I disable the Tau Accelerators. If the EMP is the only active weapon they will launch.

[CBJ]

Digging up an old thread and then adding no information beyond what is effectively just "me too" is not going to get anything solved, even if it did turn out to be related to the original reported issue from several years ago. If you are seeing a problem in 8.00 then please create a new thread and provide the information requested in the very first thread at the top of the forum, including a link to an unmodified savegame. This will mean we can actually look at the problem you are seeing.