Trump Presidency

[fiksal]

Republicans standing up to Trump?

That's just theater, it's hard to take them seriously after the damage they intentionally inflicted and continue, underline, continue to support.

So, sure ...

[TSM]

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[Alan Phipps]

Keep it civil language in discussions here please. Minors do read posts on a gaming forum.

[mr.WHO]

Republicans standing up to Trump?
That's just theater, it's hard to take them seriously after the damage they intentionally inflicted and continue, underline, continue to support.
So, sure ...

Trump in last year managed to antagonize pretty much everyone to almost cartoonish extend - allies, enemies, trading partners, rivals.
Already most world leaders either ignore him or openly push back (kudos to Spain).

I'm looking forward to November - if he became Lame Duck, I could see everyone start to openly mock him for sh*t & giggles for next 2 years.

[Chips]

Been a while since the channel has published a video, so when it popped up thought it worth a watch. It's "Pindex" - voiced by Steven Fry (genuinely).
But I think it summarises many points people have raised throughout this thread (as to what is happening) and to their implication.
It also includes plenty of links for its sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNfzRshsDjY

[matthewfarmery]

So Trump is thinking of financial support for Oil-Rich U.A.E.

I mean, what the heck? seriously, this is just so much BS. I really wonder how much Trump is going to toss to them? and what will Trump get in return? Again, this should be illegal right?? Yet, oh wait, Trump can throw money at oil rich allies, all that he wants, while bankrupting America.

What a clown fest. How much farther will this plunge America into debt?

[EGO_Aut]

So Trump is thinking of financial support for Oil-Rich U.A.E.

I mean, what the heck? seriously, this is just so much BS. I really wonder how much Trump is going to toss to them? and what will Trump get in return? Again, this should be illegal right?? Yet, oh wait, Trump can throw money at oil rich allies, all that he wants, while bankrupting America.

What a clown fest. How much farther will this plunge America into debt?

From Katar he got a Boeing 747
From U.A.E maybe a cruise ship for US Oligarchs and Bunga Bunga partys

[felter]

Looks like someone else has taken another pot shot at Trump and missed, at some point Trump is going to realize he is seriously not liked.

[matthewfarmery]

Probably fake, even his press conference was stupid. Al about his frelling ballroom, and why he wants it. I don't believe for one second it was real.

[mr.WHO]

Fake or not, it won't boost his popularity like a first one.

Plus isn't it like 7th or 8th time already?
I think there was 3 cases in his Florida resort, 2 around White House, this one and the first one.

[matthewfarmery]

I still think the one where he was suppose to be have been hit in the ear was also fake. After all, there still very little on what happened has been released. Also, another reason why people are saying its fake. Was the press, they were exactly where Trump wanted them to be. He didn't hurry off. In fact, he stayed for a photo shoot with his fist raised.

If that was real, the SS would have had him down on the floor, or removed as quickly as possible. And the press wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near him. So yes, that was fake. So is this one. As he tried to advertise his ballroom and why he so desperately wants it.

[matthewfarmery]

Trump's posts are getting more and more deranged by the day.

First, Trump is now demanding firing squads.

secondly, he saying Obama has committed treason and must be charged, along with Hilary Clinton. Nothing new there, but his desperate to charge someone with treason, before he is.

And more. seriously, when is enough enough, before America takes action against Trump? Stuff like this would have doomed Biden, if he was in office. So why is Trump still allowed to make or post crap that would have ended other president's terms?

I think , we can safely say, Trump is now a full official dictator now. But its high time, America realise this, and before it destroys America for good.

Also economic data for America hasn't been this bleak for a long time. Its economy is in the gutter now. That is official.

Edit,

Looks like Vance is no longer Trump's favourite. Looks like Rubio is now for the VP for 2028

[matthewfarmery]

As more things come out about this alleged shooting, the more I'm convinced it was 100% staged. First the shooter never got into the conference. So no where near Trump. SS detail went to protect Vance first. Not Trump. Also Trump fell down when trying to walk away, (caught on video)

Too many oddities. for this to be have been real. What is more, Trump's top MAGA fans are all screaming on social media, about wanting the golden ballroom. And now, there are posts saying that the tax payer should foot the bill. Wait? I mean, we have all these secret funding from large corporations. Plus, the ballroom is still dead in the water due to a federal judge.

The fact, that many are screaming for this golden ballroom, just makes it 100% fishy. That was it staged to try and get the golden ballroom built.

[burger1]

The shooting was obviously staged or at a minimum allowed/encouraged to happen. They are made money off of betting due to the odd things happening well before the shooting. Trump want's his hospital/bunker/ballroom and this is part of him trying to get it.

The US already has firing squads for executions that have been used recently. They want to expedite the execution process and speed stuff up.

The 2025 plan is still proceeding despite the slew of events thrown up to cover it. Look at what they do vs what they say.

[burger1]

The republicans are now putting forth a bill to get the ballroom built and with tax payer money. The greatly reduced security at the event including outside layers that would have caught the person well outside the white house is pretty easily explained now. Fox reporters were even recorded saying the security was ridiculously light during the event before the incident. It was staged/planned.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/republicans-n ... 07446.html

Also trumps appointment for AG will likely get approved. The senators are saying if they agree to this and that they will approve the appointment but then the new AG will just resume the things after being appointed which is clear in the words they are using.

[matthewfarmery]

Same old corruption. Then its clear that those in both the senate and congress probably helped with staging of the ballroom. As for the new AG, just the same bad as the last one. So nothing will change there. Even though the GOP are in deathrows, they still cling to power and using it until the very end.

By then, the world will be a far darker place. With or without Trump. Things are going downhill fast.

Edit

From the Washington post, the WH allowed the correspondent dinner to be lower security then normal, Which means, they were allowing this to happen, hence the staged event come from there. or was planned from there. A lot of unanswered questions. And I guess we will never know the full facts, until years later.

[Chips]

A lot of unanswered questions. And I guess we will never know the full facts, until years later.

I mean, years later we already have a full report of the prior assassination attempt where 2 people died (inc shooter), 2 others had serious injuries resulting in 3 weeks of hospitalisation, a further 8 with minor injuries; with reports from Congress, the FBI, the Secret Service, and independent panel reviewing the data and more...

and still people repeatedly claim it was all faked?

So the "full facts" - does that even matter? In the modern day it's evident people don't consider evidence to be acceptable; opinion carries more weight.

(also, swear some posts I read keep disappearing in this thread? Or am I going senile.)

[matthewfarmery]

But there are still a lot of unanswered questions regarding the Pennsylvania shooting,

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/q ... y-shooting

Plus there is still the fact that Trump stayed for a photo shoot after it, with the press being at the right place and the right time.

Also the roof that the gunman used, wasn't even covered, plus the motives behind the assassination attempt is still unclear to this day.

There were failing by the SS, they sort of admit that. but how the SS protected the president, that is still seems a lot is unknown. Or why wasn't it done better? or even allow Michael Thomas Crooks to climb the ladder to the roof. In that case, the SS should have covered that roof as well? but they didn't. as the guy was killed, we may never know the full facts.

That is what I'm saying. Even some of this is still hidden, or there was more going on behind thje scenes that WH doesn't want people to know.

The building with a clear sight line to the stage where the president was speaking only 135 meters (157 yards) away was left unguarded. Crooks eventually boosted himself up there and fired eight shots with an AR-style rifle

The Secret Service's investigation into its own agency's conduct said that it wasn't that the line-of-sight risks weren't known about ahead of time. It was that multiple personnel assessed them as "acceptable."

That is itself a huge failing, I mean, the SS should have stopped anyone from going near that building, RIGHT? so why wasn't it? like I said, a lot of issues.

Anthony Cangelosi, a former Secret Service agent who is now a lecturer at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, said that without being able to read the interviews with the agents involved in the Butler planning it's hard to know exactly why they did what they did. A year later, he still struggles with how so many things went wrong.

And we Joe blogs don't see those interviews either. or what went wrong. So who did read the interviews? so why was this allowed? or who's fault was it? unless there was more going on?

[Chips]

Genuinely most of what you're talking about "unanswered" has been covered by the reports.

E.g.
1) He didn't use a ladder; he scaled the aircon unit to get to the roof...
2) The building Crooks shot from housed 3 police snipers. The reason they didn't have anyone on the roof was due to a lack of staffing.
3) He was spotted by a Police sniper during a shift rotation an hour or more before the shooting.
4) It's unclear when the Police finally communicated to the Secret Service about Crooks... but it was after they'd already lost him when they went searching for a suspicious individual.
5) The building was outside of the Secret Service Security cordon.

The list of issues, failings and more are published. Biden (the at the time president) ordered reviews into security arrangements.

Yet here we are. Apparently, it was faked. The belief that it was includes that you don't know answers to questions such as "how did he manage to use a ladder to climb a roof."...
For all the "we don't know" questions - is the only explanation, until someone gives you answers, is that it *must* be fake?
Is there never a question of "does 2 deaths and multiple injuries not disprove something being fake?", because a pair of deaths and a fistful of injuries kind of makes it seem real to me.

I'm not expecting you to change your belief. That wasn't the point. I'm literally pointing out - does it matter what "truth is revealed" if:
1) People don't pay any attention to it
2) People won't trust/believe it anyway...


It doesn't matter what "truth is found out" about this latest debacle. It's going to remain staged regardless I'm more relaxed about it in this instance, no-one died after all, so it isn't so hurtful to their bereaved to keep hearing how they died in a fake incident.

[matthewfarmery]

I still think it was fake, to make him look big, and to gain symphony for him. Watching the video again, to calm, same for the people, if this was real, there should have been chaos in the crowds. Yet they seem too surreal.

And to the lack of staffing, again, why the low security? same thing with the current assassination attempt.

If it wasn't fake, then OK, but I personally think it was fake, to give him more power, to make him look strong. and defiant. Yet Trump is not anything like that.