Trump Presidency

[Chips]

The fact that the law in question requires congressional approval to extend the tariffs over 150 days.

And as it happens, there are likely to be legal challenges against the section 122 tariffs as well. Given that SCOTUS just prevented him from using another mechanism to introduce broad based tariffs, not only does it seem unlikely that they'll let him have this one, I would suggest it is a very strong possibility that before an appeal is brought to SCOTUS, temporary injunctions will prevent them from being enacted.

We'll see; the US legal system can be pretty arcane.

Didn't they say that the tariffs, in the first instance, can't be applied by Trump unilaterally anyway??

Yet, where are we again?

[Usenko]

Which would seem to mean that Trump is placing a pretty solid bet that the courts are too clogged to get to his tariffs any time soon.

I did note one person commenting that Trump may have taken the tariff money for himself, and may be desperately trying to avoid any situation in which he is required to give it back!

[matthewfarmery]

This is what I think, he found a magic money tree, and doesn't want to give up that source of income. The issue is, I suspect a lot of the money raised has been funnelled to off shore accounts. and money laundering. Even if the supreme court forces him to repay that money, in some way. He won't. And only a fraction will be returned. if any.

But I bet this is where most of the money has gone.

[Chips]

What??! This sounds like utter conspiracy madness. Tariffs are paid to the national customs agency; in the UK it's HMRC, in the US it's Customs and Borders, and it goes directly into the National Treasury.

Not funnelled Donald Trump's private offshore account; "money laundering" - the issue with money laundering is turning dirty money to appear from a legit source. If it's paid in fricken tariff, it's already legit.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/06/tariffs ... ainer.html

[matthewfarmery]

It goes into the general Treasury fund, so it gets mixed up with a lot of other revenue. yet who controls that? Trump and co. corruption is rife in America right now. Also remember that Trump has shutdown a lot of watch dogs and other agencies. How can we be sure that the revenue is going to fund America? we don't. And with business shrinking, then revenue from tariffs will start to shrink too.

Until the Trump regime is gone, we won't know the facts. But considering its taxpayer's money that ferries him around, the ballroom and other stuff. In that case, even if a lot of tariff money does go into the treasury, how much of that money ends up in Trump's pocket's one way or another? Like his meme coin etc. The money comes from somewhere, but not from Trump.

[matthewfarmery]

Seen a video of some of Trump's social media posts, He now saying he doesn't have to go back to congress, and that the new tariffs have been approved a long time ago.

He basically saying, he doesn't need congress anymore. Or the SCOTUS.

More dictatorship move. While the new tariffs will no doubt get challenged. It might be a while. But Trump is totally going deranged. And in one of his recent speeches, he said as president, he has the power to destroy a country. He may very well burn everything down. And congress will sit back and let this happen.

[Chips]

Oh I'm sure there's going to be plenty of profiteering - all those reconstructions of countries and companies that various sons-in-law have become involved in to the tunes of billions (already). Not so sure they're going to be able to funnel federal funds from federal accounts into private ones.

But, who knows where this madness can go to. He's possibly trying to usurp the UN for his own ends I've no doubt (did they work out whether he was the permanent leader, or is it the role of President of the US who leads the board for peace, so changes), and who knows where that'll lead if it actually gained legitimacy. Currently it just looks like a walking dead end.

[matthewfarmery]

Put it this way, if there is profit to be made from Tariffs, Trump and his regime will have found a way to profit from it. Then there is Qatar, and a few other middle east countries. How much money will Trump have funnelled to them in some way? Plus there is that plane, a gift, but its far from that. Considering it will cost a lot for it to be retro fitted. And who will profit in the end?

So, in that regard, US treasury money heading to Trump's private bank accounts, not hard to understand. Ever since he came into power, he has broken one law or another, or profited from this, that or another. Especially when Musk shut down all the watch dogs that were investigating his business.

Doubt there are many agencies left to monitor where federal money goes these days.

[Vertigo 7]

dont forget his absurd 10bn lawsuit against the IRS for allegedly leaking his tax filings. clearly no conflict of interest there.

[clakclak]

In a shock to absolutely no one, NPR is now reporting that the Justice Department is withholding files that detail a sexual assault on a minor by President Trump.

Source; https://www.npr.org/2026/02/24/nx-s1-57 ... on-maxwell

[Vertigo 7]

Should stamp out a big coin for him, put Epstein's face on it and engrave "President of Pedophilia" on it and give it to em.

[clakclak]

Should stamp out a big coin for him, put Epstein's face on it and engrave "President of Pedophilia" on it and give it to em.

That really backs the question, to say it with the words of the current Vice President of the United States, "What percentage of the American population has @realDonaldTrump sexually assaulted?"

[Vertigo 7]

I dunno, but he said he grabs em by the pussy before he was even elected in 2016, but people voted for em anyway. That stuff just doesn't matter for the people that voted for em. Hell, they probably do it themselves, if I had to guess.

[Usenko]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I had absolutely no desire to watch the man's State of the Union address. There was no chance that any of it would actually be true[1], and in any case I derive no joy whatsoever from watching an old man humiliate himself, no matter how disgusting a person he may be.

[1] The speech is only composed of two things:
a) Things that are knowingly untrue
b) Things which are untrue and he wishes they were true to the point that he believes they are even if they're not.

[chew-ie]

To sum it up - after the speech about the State of the Union no one knows the state of the Union. Which in itself points to a bad state. Which we already knew.

[Usenko]

Well, one factoid I found out from the State of the Union speech (from a friend, I didn't watch it) was that Australians pay about 3% of the cost of the "Cheapest drugs in the world" . . .

(I am on Metformin, and a 100 pack of 500mg tablets costs me approx $8. In the USA I'm led to believe it's $181.59 for a 60 tablet pack!)

[TSM]

To sum it up - after the speech about the State of the Union no one knows the state of the Union. Which in itself points to a bad state. Which we already knew.

its never been in such a state that is clear

[matthewfarmery]

So when quizzed, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent suggested that Americans may never see the return of the $175 billion collected under President Trump’s now-struck-down tariffs.

Of course Americans won't see that money. So its telling that when the treasury secretory says that, you know there is something deeply wrong with the system.

Either, A, like I what's been mentioned before, the money is just plain gone, and funnelled else where. or
They have no real agencies to track where the money came from and where it went too.

But yeah, that money is gone, even if the lower court says that the US government has to refund the money, Trump and Co will dig their heels and says no.

[Vertigo 7]

Who is surprised that trusting a con artist with the taxpayer's money is a bad idea?

Are we great again yet?

[fiksal]

even if they wanted to, which they do not, I don't think there's any realistic way to track who paid these tariffs. Every person would have to save receipts and IRS would have to read through them. Which is unrealistic.

Businesses have the receipts but they also passed the cost down, even if they ask for refund from the government, that's double dipping in tax payers' money.


also MAGA thinks they didn't pay these tariffs, that Mexico did, so, problem partially solved?