W11 HOPEFULL OR ?

[mr.WHO]

Interesting - I had same issue with Local Security fail to enable on both my Win11 laptops.

However I decided to ignore it - now after some updates, I don't even see this option/slited in my Defender menu anymore.

Everything seem to be listed green and OK, but I have no idea what is the status of that Local Security stuff - did MS fix it or just hide it - no idea

[alt3rn1ty]

Now that looks like something I can manage, thank you! - And I've a spare I7 PC, just in case!

Will give it a try this evening.

[Gavrushka]

Now that looks like something I can manage, thank you! - And I've a spare I7 PC, just in case!

Will give it a try this evening.

Woot, it worked! Of course, I had to find powershell, then had to work out which of the three powershells to use. LOL.

But cheers, the warning is now gone.

[alt3rn1ty]

Cumulative update preview (KB5027303) has done a bit of work for gamers
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/top ... e13fdf278b

"New! This update improves your computer’s performance when you use a mouse that has a high report rate for gaming. To learn more, see “Reduced game stutter with high report rate mice” in Delivering Delightful Performance for More Than One Billion Users Worldwide."

There's a lot of "New!" items in this update, which kind of made me want to shy away from it (more things to go wrong from the MS bright ideas club), but actually the update went smoothly and I cant find anything intrusive, but thats probably due to me having everything in the Privacy section of settings set to off

Anyway yes TL:DR - Game Lag caused by Mouse High Report Rate is now solved.

[alt3rn1ty]

Just a heads up:

If you have a Default Browser setup which is not MS Edge (ie you use Brave or Googles Chrome or Firefox) .. A recent Win 11 update for me added Edge to my Startup Apps.

Easy to turn off in Settings, Apps, Startups .. But puzzling as I have set Brave as my default browser.
Why would MS think a user with another browser set as default, needs Edge also starting up with windows ???.

They also added a new thing to our Task Bar, Copilot.
This is a new AI app, I think it replaces what Cortana used to do, and has far more reaching implications.
Its being touted as capable of increasing our productivity .. Hmm, thanks for that MS but I dont work in an office. I just play games on my PC.
This is also easy to switch off, Settings / Personalisation / Taskbar. Well I think its easy to switch off, if you havent started it and let its setup scripts loose.

MS Bright Ideas club at it again.

[Gavrushka]

Glad you let me know. I was just updating when I read this.

[mr.WHO]

Recently, I noticed that Windows 11 likes to change settings for it's applications on its own

I found out that somehow, for over a year, Snipping Tool was automaticaly saving and storing my screenshots independently from me saving or not in different foder.

A few days ago it changed notepad setting from "save normally" (aka in the same tab), to saving in separate tab...and opening the older one (WTF? why it is so convoluded?).

Many months ago I recall it changed monitor power down / power saving setting to shorter as well.

[mr.WHO]

Aparently Microsoft shut down an option to free update Win7/8 to Win10/11 in September 2023.

Free update from W10 to W11 is still available.

[Sovereign01]

I should have said at the time but in the end I did make the leap from Windows 10 to Windows 11, wasn't exactly easy because of the hoops I had to jump through. To fulfill the "secure boot" requirement I purchased a 1TB M.2 drive which would hold my OS, cloned my main disk to it and converted its partitions. I had to determine which of the three recovery partitions I needed to keep and got rid of the other two at which point the conversion succeeded.

Before I could actually install Windows 11 I had to fulfill the other requirement, that of Trusted Platform Module (TPM), the good news was that the motherboard I had was TPM compatible and had a port for it, the bad news was that the chip itself (the size of an average postage stamp) is sold separately. Fortunately, the manufacturer also makes them and the chip was only £10, so upgrading had to wait a few days until it arrived. In the meantime, Windows 10 ran perfectly on the new drive until the TPM arrived and I made the upgrade. After all the difficulty in getting there, the upgrading itself was a cakewalk.

So I managed to get a working W11 installation on the WD M.2 SSD, and the Sandisk which the OS was on before is relegated to storage, though it still contains a Windows 10 install Being an SSD itself startup times were already fast enough that I didn't notice any difference, both the Sandisk and Western Digital were top of their respective ranges, I paid extra for that!

[Ormac]

Aparently Microsoft shut down an option to free update Win7/8 to Win10/11 in September 2023.

Free update from W10 to W11 is still available.

I noticed this win10 to 11 upgrade option when I updated the BIOS last week.

Should I just shift from 10 to 11 now?

[mr.WHO]

Should I just shift from 10 to 11 now?

A few months ago, I updated both my laptops from Win10 to Win11.

My feedback is that if you meet the hardware requirements and like Win10, there is no reason not to upgrade to Win11 - it's just more polished and updated Win10 - with all it ups and downs.
It will take you like a week, to get accustom to GUI changes, but after you get used to it, it nice.
A month ago I had to do some stuff on my sister laptop with Win10 still on it, it felt horrible, I totally fogot Win10 GUI


There is also one reason why you should upgrade eventually - Microsoft will stop support Win10 in 2025.
Win12 will be release soon, so eventually they will block Win10 to Win11 upgrade as well.

[CBJ]

Should I just shift from 10 to 11 now?

I'd describe it as "mostly OK". The majority of the usability annoyances that made it a pain to use are now at least optionally solved, but the Start menu is still irritatingly, and pointlessly, less functional than the one in Win10. Other than that, it seems fine.

[alt3rn1ty]

I agree upgrading is always a good move with windows, even if in the short term there are changes you dont like they either get refined in due course or we find ways around them .. The most important thing is security of windows, if you get left behind one day its inevitable something will compromise an old bug and you end up having to get a new OS and/or machine anyway. So holding off is sort of shooting yourself in the foot.
These days Microsoft seem to be a bit lax or dont care about fixing some zero day exploits etcetera, but do get round to them eventually. So take what you can from them.
Also memory management and technical advancements are not obvious just looking at a desktop, but over the years they are happening in the background, so its not just about rounded corners on windows

As much as I hate Microsofts monopoly and some of the decisions they make, I would only ever hold back on upgrading for a few months.
I'm still salivating at the trap gates to completely change over to Linux, I just need to be completely happy the games I like are not a problem, when that day comes I will drop windows like a sack of bricks.

@Linux enthusiasts : I know of all the more recent advancements with Proton etcetera, but when I see someone online saying "Oh yes under x distro to fix that problem with NVidia xxxx then run this batch of commands" .. See then you get an OS update which finds something unexpected and you have to re-install everything to be sure you havent messed up something technical in Linux. I dont want to be there again, I have experienced similar before when I was dual booting UBuntu and Win 7.

[jlehtone]

I have not seen W11 yet. It will inevitably show up at work, although I do use Linux there so it won't be direct hurt/bless. At home, on latest build from last Summer -- a AMD 7800X3D system -- I did turn the TPM off in the EFI.

On every OS there are things the user can and cannot do. Those that can be done are either easy or hard. Online has plenty of outdated and/or erroneus "information".

[Youngman]

Aparently Microsoft shut down an option to free update Win7/8 to Win10/11 in September 2023.

Free update from W10 to W11 is still available.

Aha!...thanks for that information. I'm thinking about upgrading my 'second' computer's hardware shortly (hopefully). I have genuine copy's of Win 10 home, one for each computer.
I've upgraded from Win 10 on the first computer to Win 11, bit of a performance initially but managed it in the end!
Anyway, hopefully the hardware and OS (Win 11) upgrades with the second computer should be a little easier.

Oldman

[mr.WHO]

I got an issue that 23H2 update is no longer visible in my Windows update section (it dissapeared during one of regular small updates and 100% did not installed by accident).

This solution doesn't work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ-oFXhNX4o

[felter]

Can't believe it has been this long since someone posted on this topic, especially with MS recently shutting down win 10.

Anyway, I've not went down the Win 11 road and to be honest I don't think I ever will, especially what with Linux being able to literally run any windows programme now thanks to wine and proton, I think that's where I will be heading eventually, but right now I agreed to MS offer of free win 10 security updates for the next year, so I'll carry on using that just for now. One good thing, at least I now know I'm not going to get any more unwanted bloatware inserted onto my computer by MS, yay for that.

So I'm interested in just how any of you are enjoying your experience with win 11, seeing as I haven't actually heard anything good about it, You know how are you getting along with its new AI feature and if you are happy with having Microsoft farming everything you do or now even say. Let's be honest, win 11 is nothing but a massive piece of spyware that collects and sells its user's data to the highest bidder, sorry I mean to Microsoft's partners.

Is there anything that you like about any part of the OS or anything that you particularly hate about it, what is your experience with it so far.

[Alan Phipps]

I am a relatively recent convert from Win10 to Win11 and was pleasantly surprised with how short and easy the transfer was (I recall with a shudder the Win7 to Win10 transfer littered with pitfalls, delays and multiple restarts). My approach in using Win11 was to configure it to look and feel as I was used to in 10, mainly because I was very comfortable there; now I don't notice much difference.

I spent a few sessions turning off all the bloatware and gimmicks that I didn't want and now it seems fine to me. Maybe I could miss out on some super new browsing and desktop facilities by doing that, but it suits me to be rather conservative that way. Some of its new capabilities affecting such as the level of integration and ease of transfer between my different devices are actually quite handy and I do use those.

As for data collection etc, I haven't seen anything extra in terms of directed advertising or internet bandwidth spent calling home - not that I have anything to be nervous or embarrassed about anyway. As far as AI is concerned, I treat all internet information (from human or AI sources) as suspect until corroborated in a manner I find trustworthy. <shrugs>

[mr.WHO]

I don't know if there is a difference between EU and everyones else version, but I don't see any intusive shove of AI in my W11.
Random ms bloat instalation exist, but is not worse than in W10.

My overall experince is that W11 is just upgrade W10, which is nice.
My bigger concern is that W11 is supported till 2029 - if W12 will be crap, which is very likely, then we'll have a problem.

[alt3rn1ty]

Is there anything that you like about any part of the OS or anything that you particularly hate about it, what is your experience with it so far.

Its pretty much the same as Win 10, installs a bit of bloat you can easily get rid of, tries to railroad you into having an online account instead of a local user account. I found a way to create a Local user account when I installed it, but MS are taking further steps to stop us doing that. If you are forced to make an online account just give it a throwaway email address, then go into settings, accounts, other users and add an account making it a Local account, change it to administrator, boot into that account and get rid of the online account.
Then disable/uninstall Onedrive, and use Crap fixer https://github.com/builtbybel/CrapFixer
After that its nearly as good as Win 7.