[MOD] NESA - Never Enter Stations Again (V0.9.2 Beta, 2nd Apr 2014)

[enenra]

Basically you want a format like this

[url = http://url.image ] [ img] http://url.thumbnail [ /img] [ /url]

I tried that, but that simply screws up the pics and links. At least when I submit the post. While previewing this looks perfect.

You could just quickly create an imgur gallery: http://www.imgur.com - IMO the best free picture hoster. Simple and no bull. Example with your pictures: http://imgur.com/a/UzkHQ

[Hiper-Boy]

Wow, just wow. I am loving this, very nice.

Looks like when hitting 3/3 the game tried to get all of the NPCs on the list, which I love by the way.

I don't need to go to a specific station, I just hit 3/3 and brows all the NPC option, if I don't like the choices I exit out one and then hit 3 again and get what I want.

[REQUEST]
I want to ask you to at least consider keeping the way it is now, I don't mind going station to station with this mod, but getting all the NPCs within the sector is just awesome, quick, and why not?
Why should you not be able to get a list of all the NPCs within the sector and talk to them, why would you need to go to a station?

The way it is now, is perfect.

[Mad_Joker]

Mad_Joker, hope you don't mind got an update you might be interested in:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30584379/NESA.rar

It cleans the code up slightly (just some duplicate variables and lists that weren't needed), fixes it so that you can now scroll through all the actors on the station using more like you originally intended and possibly fixes the random dock location (although I think that might just have been the problem with not showing all the actors not actually random docks).

Hi Azalrion, could it be that you uploaded the wrong file? The MainMenu.xml in the archive you linked is identical to mine, just the indentation is changed.

And yeah, I forgot to remove some junk code from the file.

On a sidenote, the find_station tag is really returning random stations, even if I use multiple="true". Right now I am trying to just accumulate all the actors from all found stations and make one big list, which will be sorted on the NPC type. However, even though I am not moving at all the list of actors is constantly fluctuating. I'll probably switch to another method to get the actors.

Great work! Working fine here, thanks for making the game much less painful to play
I have one suggestion though, "Talk directly to NPC" looks awkward there, maybe change it to "Open comm-link" or something similar?
Anyway again good work, looking forward to more from you

If you go into NESA/t and open 0001-L044.xml, you can change the text. On line 5, by default:

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<t id="1">Talk remotely to NPC</t>

Change to:

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<t id="1">Open Comm Link</t>

Or similar. I don't know jack about modding, so of course tell me if I'm spreading misinformation.

Thanks, I will change the text.

[vanzi]

Wonderful. It took a modder less than a day to figure out what the entire company of Egosoft couldn't do in seven years.

Well done, sir!

This. So much this.

Thanks!

[Deleted User]

For the German version please use:

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<t id="1">Kommunikationskanal öffnen</t>

Cheers, great work!

[Sheik]

*brofist*

Thank you dude.

[enenra]

One quick thing to promote Nexus useage, how about we use something like this to link to the nexus page?

[ external image ]

It's something I quickly whipped together. Lame, yes, but functional for now.

[Seidr]

Oh. My. God. Thank you!

[socros]

Good, thank for the work

I do a french files for t folder, 0001-L033 for french

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<diff>
<add sel="/language">
<page id="99999" title="NESA" descr="Text for NESA mod." voice="no">
<t id="1">Contacter PNJ</t>
</page>
</add>
</diff>

[Saquavin]

I do a french files for t folder

So it's "Contacter PNJ" (NPC in french)

[socros]

yes of Course I edit my post

Does he will make more sense to offer this option on the menu station where was the amarage button?

[Mad_Joker]

yes of Course I edit my post

Does he will make more sense to offer this option on the menu station where was the amarage button?

Sadly I don't really understand the question

Anyways, thanks for the French translation, I will use that. Can you maybe also provide a short description of the mod in French (to use in content.xml which will be seen in the Extensions menu by players)?

On a sidenote:

I am making good progress on getting the list to be stable. One of the problems was that I was near more than 1 station, so right now I am looping over all stations, then all docks, then all actors, I find the "commable" ones, and do an insertion sort on the NPC type name. However, this leads to the list of NPCs being huge. So I am thinking I should either limit the distance for which to find items (which will require me to figure out first how to do that ), or I will simply filter the list to show only one of each type of NPC, but that would suck since you might want to see more than just one pilot, engineer etc.

Of course, the optimal solution would be a scrollable list in the details monitor, but right now I am far away from really modding the UI.

That's it for the update. I will probably not publish the new version today, but tomorrow evening after work.

[nourse]

Can you maybe also provide a short description of the mod in French (to use in content.xml which will be seen in the Extensions menu by players)?

For french translation in the content.xml put this:

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<text language="33" name="Ne plus jamais devoir entrer dans les stations" description="Ajoute une option au menu Univers pour parler à distance aux NPCs." author="Mad_Joker" />

On a side note, Mad_Joker you are a true heroe

[socros]

For a mod name in content.xml, no french translate I believe.

sorry Mad_Joker for my english.
I mean why use universe menu and not station menu ?

[CaptainRAVE]

You sir, are a legend.

This is why the X modding community is the best around, very impressive.

[Privata]

this mod is very good.
you see I like to explore the stations for roll play but dont realy like to talk much.
with this it kind of ads a level or realism.
kudos

[Mad_Joker]

I have just uploaded version 0.2. It mostly adds lots and lots more NPCs to the list (where I test I have 135). I'm not sure yet if I like this, but for now it will suffice.

And thanks to you all. Your appreciation of this mod is very much appreciated in turn as well

For a mod name in content.xml, no french translate I believe.

sorry Mad_Joker for my english.
I mean why use universe menu and not station menu ?

To be honest I have just picked a menu at random. I might change it in the future, but for now I had other priorities.

[miraculix250]

Nice mods, thanks alot for this one

While it still holds some financial advantages to actually doc to the stations and smalltalk to the NPC for discounts its still possible to skip that part and do it via comm. It's up to you what you wanna do in a specific situation.

Thanks

[Halconnen]

Maybe populate the list just from all docks of the closest station, instead of all docks in the zone?

The latter seems a) almost too good and b) a bit unwieldy as far as list size is concerned.

[MutantDwarf]

Try using 'match_distance' to make it only take NPCs from a docking station nearby, rather than from the entire sector.

I think it should work something like this:

<find_station name="$NESA_Stations" space="player.zone" known="true" multiple="true" comment="Find the nearest stations!">
<match_distance object="player.entity" max="1000m"/>
</find_station>

That should find only stations within 1000 meters.

EDIT: And yet it doesn't. Hrm. Maybe there's a reason matchdistance isn't used in any default scripts at all:/

EDIT2: It does work, I just missed that it requires an underscore even though it doesn't include one in the schema file.

I'd recommend adding that to the dock search, too, so it only pulls from a single dock - otherwise, your list is pretty long.

EDIT3: OK, it genuinely doesn't work on docks. Hrm. Not sure how to make it pull only from the closest dock...