[X3 Reunion] Really stuck in Nyana's Hideout asteroid mission

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 13:15

To be blunt my piloting skills and game reflexes are really terrible and I don't think I'll ever be able to do the 'run through the asteroid in Nyana's Hideout chasing daddy' mission. I need help. Badly.

Is there anyway to turn off clipping temporarily?

Can the timer be nerfed?

Any way to fool the computer to thinking I've done the mission?

Any and all help gratefully received.

TTD · Post by **TTD** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 13:21

Check the guides in the Stickies at top of forum page....

[X3R] Roguey's - "Guide's to everything" (18/5/2010)
[X3R] Apricotslice's X3 for Pacifists (1/12/2006)
[X3R] Play as Kha'ak (and living to tell about it) by Jakesnake5 (21/12/2006)
[X3R] Getting started by Relief (11/4/2007)
[X3R] Rabiddiety's video guides (7/3/2008)
[X3R] Saved Games by Cheeseburger (18/5/2008)
[X3R] X3R Strategy Guide by Giskard (14/09/2011)
[X3R] X3R: Reunion: New Players Guide by Giskard (14/09/2011)

Also check the X3 Handbook in my sig

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 13:39

I know _what_ I'm supposed to do, it's just not going to happen with me in the ship's cockpit. At least not without cheating. So pointing at a guide that says "fly fast and use the strafe drive" isn't going to do me any good.

Allan F · Post by **Allan F** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 14:42

IIRC you'll need to be in a fast M5 to succeed.

Post by **Ketraar** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 15:37

That is actually incorrect, you need a very well balanced ship, it needs to be rather fast but its more important for you to not hit the walls.

Only way I found that helped me back then was to increase gamma to max so you can see the path more clearly. Then make sure you accelerate asap but absolutely make sure not to hit any walls, its safer and faster to slow down a bit.

MFG

Ketraar

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 15:37

Allan F wrote:IIRC you'll need to be in a fast M5 to succeed.

I was in an illegally enhanced M5, but I think the speed is set to a fixed maximum for this mission anyway.

In my case I just hit the wall seven times or so then the Khaak arrive and blow up 'Midnight Sun' (or whatever the ship's name was).

BRANCA · Post by **BRANCA** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 15:50

ptb_ptb wrote:
Allan F wrote:IIRC you'll need to be in a fast M5 to succeed.
I was in an illegally enhanced M5, but I think the speed is set to a fixed maximum for this mission anyway.

In my case I just hit the wall seven times or so then the Khaak arrive and blow up 'Midnight Sun' (or whatever the ship's name was).

Hi.

Iirc,your ship is on autopilot when you enter the asteroid.
Disengage it as soon as you enter asteroid.

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Fri, 12. Oct 12, 17:01

BRANCA wrote:Iirc,your ship is on autopilot when you enter the asteroid.
Disengage it as soon as you enter asteroid.

To clarify, I don't hit the wall because my ship is on autopilot. I hit the wall because my reflexes suck and the difficulty level of the obstacle course / tunnel is too high for me.

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 19:12

Darn it. I can't even do the Bala Gi missions because I can't dock at the Paranid Shipyard. :-(

Post by **X2-Illuminatus** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 19:32

You could upload one of your saves, post the link here and let somebody else play the mission for you.

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 21:03

X2-Illuminatus wrote:You could upload one of your saves, post the link here and let somebody else play the mission for you.

It would be great if someone would, but it's a bit of an imposition. If there's a volunteer I'll upload a suitable save. (I'd need to get a standard ship in place so they don't have to much about to get my custom ships included in their game).

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 21:12

Without the same mods/scripts as you, your save may not run on another's different game setup no matter what ship you fly personally. Normally only vanilla saves can be reliably exchanged and tested. No harm in trying though.

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 21:30

IIRC, the only mods I have installed are
* lv cheats
* emp
* personally modified ships

burger1 · Post by **burger1** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 21:55

If you have the cheat scripts try turning off collisions, god mode and/or increasing the speed/turning of your ship.

I think the link is on this page
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=117616

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 21:59

burger1 wrote:If you have the cheat scripts try turning off collisions, god mode and/or increasing the speed/turning of your ship.

I think the link is on this page
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=117616

I don't think it includes a script to turn off collisions. Although that would be exactly what I need.

God mode and enging/rudder super tuning won't help in this case because it's not the ship that's at fault - it's the pilot. :lol:

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 22:46

ptb_ptb wrote:I don't think it includes a script to turn off collisions.

That script package is probably older than the script engine command to change collisions.

I'd guess that a oneliner script run on your ship could do the deed:

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[THIS] -> ignore collisions: [TRUE]

However, that would probably allow you to fly through walls (unintentonally). I make no guesses on how the hardcoded mission code will react to such "out of the box" situation.

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sat, 13. Oct 12, 23:34

jlehtone wrote:However, that would probably allow you to fly through walls (unintentonally). I make no guesses on how the hardcoded mission code will react to such "out of the box" situation.

It's certainly worth a try. And flying through walls would probably work just fine - I just need to find the end of the twisty tunnel and fly back inside there. :)

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sun, 14. Oct 12, 11:35

jlehtone wrote:
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[THIS] -> ignore collisions: [TRUE]

Unfortunately it seems that

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<RefObj> ignore collisions: <Var/Number>

was introduced in X3 Terran Conflict. At least I can't find it in the X3R script editor anywhere.

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Sun, 14. Oct 12, 13:08

Strange, I thought I did find that from a X3R script.

Nevertheless, Plan B From CyberSpace.

ptb_ptb · Post by **ptb_ptb** » Sun, 14. Oct 12, 16:55

jlehtone wrote::gruebel: Strange, I thought I did find that from a X3R script.
.gif or it didn't happen. :lol:

Seriously, there's a hint that it might have arrived in X3R 2.5 patch (in German, anyway)
http://hauke.sp01.ab-webspace.de/viewto ... 4e59f0b7ee

But I still can't find it in my computer.

Nevertheless, Plan B From CyberSpace.

I'm afraid I gave up and restarted the game in "No Story Plot" mode. I should be able to get the Bala Gi missions this way and I plan on seeing if I can actually make a sensible amount of money in a reasonable time in X3R.

(In X2 I had 90+ factories and around 300 TS Ships and I was still at barely break-even if I included all the replacement ships I had to buy. I cheated like crazy to get the money to build that lot!)