[Bonus Plugin] Commercial Agent

secretgimp · Post by **secretgimp** » Wed, 8. Nov 06, 12:11

Hi all,

I've been merrily using commercial agents to sell stuff that my complexes make, and I find it to be a really effective and powerful tool to push my wares out.

Recently however a strange thing happened, I have come to notice that all my commercial agents stopped functioning. I did not go around changing anything, as far as I know, they were all functioning correctly and then suddenly they all stopped.

I manually checked to make sure there are viable customers within range, and found that there are plenty. Checked various things, found all settings and parameters correct, can't seem to find any reason why the agents have all stopped.

Only thing I can think of is that I have recently built 2 new complexes in a different sector, might there be some obscure reason why a newly built complex might cause all existing commercial agents to sieze up?

Also, I recently installed Anarkis plugin for carrier commands ver 1.40. Although it's not related to trading and selling products, might there be some sort of conflict with the commercial agent? Anyone encountered something like this before?

Is there something I need to do with the script editor? I have never touched the script editor before, don't really know what it is. Everything seems to have been working well without me (to the best of my knowledge that is) activating the script editor before.

Please let me know if I am providing enough information, anything else I should elaborate?

Ruut · Post by **Ruut** » Fri, 10. Nov 06, 05:13

Satellite network: If this function is activated, then the pilot operates only in sectors, which contain player-owned advanced satellites. The name of the advanced satellite must be [Advanced Satellite] or [Advanced Satellite - {Homesector}]

How i can activate this option ?
Ok i find it
2 - 2 - 1

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Fri, 10. Nov 06, 07:57

Did you notice SieurNewT's comment on this page?

Input {2} {2} {1}

Post by **Graphil** » Wed, 15. Nov 06, 09:53

Latest bonus pack and game patch installed.

Started the agent and it went and bought some energy cells. It then landed and has been on standby ever since. The factory still needs energy cells and there are some available in the selected jump range at the configured buy price.

Chieftonw · Post by **Chieftonw** » Thu, 16. Nov 06, 05:01

Is it possible to configure the commercial agent to only work with player stations and not NPC stations? There are some situations where it would be useful to have, where it is not practical to use something like the CLS (since it is more open ended). A good example would be if I wanted it to collect a particular ware to a specific location from all of my stations around the universe, but not to buy it from a NPC’s.

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Thu, 16. Nov 06, 08:08

Not AFAIK. You can prevent the CA from trading with player stations, but not the other way. But a top level CLS1 can collect from 10 (producer) stations (but they all must produce same hauled wares) and the top level CLS2 can have quite many waypoints. IMO, CLS is the tool for the job. Assuming that you desire to gather various resources into HQ, I would choose CLS2. Laborous to configure though. It is easier to set up one CLS1 ship for each ware type.

unmarkedhelicopter · Post by **unmarkedhelicopter** » Fri, 17. Nov 06, 11:35

I am experimenting with CAG but have an issue.
I read in the support doc for the bonus pack :-

Input - {3} {4} {D}
Auxiliary Courier or higher: Products are sold if the pilot can load D% into his cargobay (default 30%)

Is D then a percentage of his cargobay or a percentage of the vendee's total stock holding ? i.e. 30% of what ?
I would prefer the latter as I have a large Space Fuel / Space Weed complex and would like to stop my CAGs going out to deliver 16 space fuel, this costs me as much as them going out to sell 166 so the profit is a LOT less. I've tried adjusting this figure but with no decernable results.
Anyone know of a way to control this ?
I'm using Split Caimen (Normal) Maxed Cargo - 3500
Tried Dragon's, not enough cargo space for the jump fuel needed to cover the Map

L12 · Post by **L12** » Sun, 19. Nov 06, 16:08

I've got the same problem with my freighter pilot returning to base and just sitting there whilst my factory needs E-cells.

Dunno if it helps, but my guy has a jump drive installed and if I tried to manually place some e-cells in the station. When I tried to restatrt the commercial representation, he'd transfer them into his cargo hold and then just sit there.

I know the guidelines say something about the fact that there shouldn't be e-cells in the hold when you kick them off, I dunno if the fact that he takes the stations e-cells and puts them into his hold is the reason he's just sitting there.

It's a shame really, because when it works, it's a great script and really useful. If it can be fixed (or even explained why they go idle) I can see myself using it extensively.

Ruut · Post by **Ruut** » Sun, 19. Nov 06, 19:39

L12 wrote:I've got the same problem with my freighter pilot returning to base and just sitting there whilst my factory needs E-cells.

Dunno if it helps, but my guy has a jump drive installed and if I tried to manually place some e-cells in the station. When I tried to restatrt the commercial representation, he'd transfer them into his cargo hold and then just sit there.

I know the guidelines say something about the fact that there shouldn't be e-cells in the hold when you kick them off, I dunno if the fact that he takes the stations e-cells and puts them into his hold is the reason he's just sitting there.

It's a shame really, because when it works, it's a great script and really useful. If it can be fixed (or even explained why they go idle) I can see myself using it extensively.

Try to form your pilote into a normal usine besore assign him into a complex.
Novice never deal with intermediate product.

L12 · Post by **L12** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 00:40

I've had the same problems with 1st Class Freighter Pilots too on a Silicon Mine (only resource required is E-Cells). It's just a straight up factory so the E-cells aren't an intermediate.

It's not price and availability either, because there's lots of energy about so it's really cheap. Unfortunately I was a bit of an idiot when I started playing

My first SPP I saved up for was an XL SPP which I put in Argon Prime, thereby totally flooding the market with E-cells so they're always available for a lot less than the 15credit limit I've put on the silicon mine in Herron's Nebula.

Thanks for the suggestion though. Like I say it's a great script and really makes things easier when it does work, I'm just having problems getting it to run 100% reliable.

Ruut · Post by **Ruut** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 05:33

I give you a trip to avoid photopile lack.
Add in your complex an L or XL photopile producer, crystal resource drop really less than photopile.

unmarkedhelicopter · Post by **unmarkedhelicopter** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 06:22

I'm sorry, I didn't understand a word of that !

L12 · Post by **L12** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 10:53

I think he's saying add an L or XL SPP to the factory as it would be easier to manage a lack of crystals rather than a lack of E-Cells.

The thing is I already have an XL SPP 1 sector south and there's plenty of spare energy around anyway. I'm not sure it's worth it for me to buy another SPP just to run a Silicon Mine.

Thanks again for the tip though. It may help with some of the other complexes out their where I've had the same problem.

Everyones Antihero · Post by **Everyones Antihero** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 12:05

i cant see the link to this in the main post? how can i dl this script?

L12 · Post by **L12** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 12:14

It's now installed automatically as part of the bonus plugin. Once your freighter has the bits listed on the main page (trade software 1 & 2 for the most notably), you'll get the option to start commercial representation in the trade command list.

Just refer to the readme (or 1st page) for all the commands and specs you need (for example if you want them to go up levels you'll need the trading system extension).

unmarkedhelicopter · Post by **unmarkedhelicopter** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 12:43

So does anyone know anything about the 3 4 D config ? (see previuous page)

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Mon, 20. Nov 06, 13:03

unmarkedhelicopter wrote:So does anyone know anything about the 3 4 D config ? (see previuous page)

Haven't had time/need to test nor to read the code. But you should be able to play with the value and see how much the ship and factory have, when the ship departs flies. Or PM Lucike.

Post by **Graphil** » Tue, 21. Nov 06, 13:49

Could someone please update the first post with the latest additions to the functionality.

Maahes · Post by **Maahes** » Tue, 21. Nov 06, 17:29

Request for next version:-

Could you add a command to lock all the available products.
The reason for this is that I use CAG to run my homebase, I lock all the products (of which there are several) and then unlock only the product(s) I want him to get at the time, mostly this will be weapons to outfit the next M2.
I use this over "Buy ware for best price" because I want him to use his jumpdirve with a range of 50 jumps so he can get to all the EQ docks and Fabs.
But at the moment it takes an age to manually go through and lock each of the products at the start.

unmarkedhelicopter · Post by **unmarkedhelicopter** » Wed, 22. Nov 06, 11:51

Request for next version.
I like Maahes' thinking, you should also include an unlock all wares for the same reason.
I would like a config that will ONLY allow the CAG to run if he can take sufficient Wares to fill X% of the total client stock holding.
i.e. - Such that the client price has reached a certain level and/or (as in my case with Space Fuel) such that he makes 1 journey to a station to fill it rather than 10 journeys at 16 units each (costs in wages and energy cells)

(Thanks for the help so far Lucike

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