Rebirth release date. - Part 2

bwf1975 · Post by **bwf1975** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 19:30

I'm just as eager to see more info about Rebirths release, but i'd rather wait for a polished version rather than the usual sell it now, and fix it later attitude of most developers.
I can understand with Star citizen and elite follow up, the need to keep things quiet, and egosoft have always been great with product quality, and patches and modding support.
I think games in good hands, and as my dad always said "Best things come to those who wait".

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 19:36

Hey bwf... we have been waiting...

"spyder1911 wrote:
BigBANGtheory wrote:
Is Q4 2011 still a realistic window for release?

I have the same question. I wish they would release any additional news since it's been months of silence.

Me too. I hate it when companies string people along and not just just be upfront about timescales.

I wanna know is 2011 still likely? What is this going to have that will make it much better than TC? What from TC was not good and will be improved etc. And show me some vids."

This same back and forth is now 2 years old... I continue it because there is nothing else to do here.

bwf1975 · Post by **bwf1975** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:25

Yeah i've been waiting too, seems like forever.
After Xrm and other amazing mods, Rebirth has hard job keeping up with expectation.
Maybe this is why they keeping quiet.

Post by **korio** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:31

You all are still complaining about the release date and saying bulls**t about 2014 while they already show a video with a real gameplay of the game.

And one of the developers confirmed some state at development with a client for testers, i think this is enough for make a very accurate estimation about the release date.

And even with the info about that and the new videos released by egosoft talking with the guys who make the game still ask for more pics, and more videos, and more things.

Get this deep in your head, you will see plenty of them when the marketing start, not before.

gandy|UKCS| · Post by **gandy|UKCS|** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:34

you people know that when Egosoft gave an expected release date, they did not take in to account Hofstadter's law and that is to blame for any delays and not Egosoft

Ratzsa · Post by **Ratzsa** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:47

gandy|UKCS| wrote:you people know that when Egosoft gave an expected release date, they did not take in to account Hofstadter's law and that is to blame for any delays and not Egosoft

I had to google that. I learned something new today. Progress!

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:52

korio wrote:You all are still complaining about the release date and saying bulls**t about 2014 while they already show a video with a real gameplay of the game.

And one of the developers confirmed some state at development with a client for testers, i think this is enough for make a very accurate estimation about the release date.

And even with the info about that and the new videos released by egosoft talking with the guys who make the game still ask for more pics, and more videos, and more things.

Get this deep in your head, you will see plenty of them when the marketing start, not before.

They said they were going to start beta testing in 2011, they had a release date announced in partner with Deep Silver....

We even had an unofficial "guess the 2011 release date" thread where people joked about getting a free game if right.

Videos showing me raw scripting being tested, a rendering job of an inanimate object and "game play" involving no substance or viewable features is awesome... but to say you are ready for testing in 2011, two years ago and then proceed to do nothing for 23.5 months is not proof of anything viable coming out of this group. Sorry, but your wrong.

gandy|UKCS| · Post by **gandy|UKCS|** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:54

Normally i would just say they are using Valve time but that one is better i think

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 20:57

gandy|UKCS| wrote:Normally i would just say they are using Valve time but that one is better i think

Don't worry, we still have a couple years before we get to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever

The Q · Post by **The Q** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:03

BarrenEarth wrote:They said they were going to start beta testing in 2011, they had a release date announced in partner with Deep Silver....

Please show us the link to the topic or website, where they announced the start of the beta test in 2011.

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:06

The Q wrote:
They said they were going to start beta testing in 2011, they had a release date announced in partner with Deep Silver....
Please show us the link to the topic or website, where they announced the start of the beta test in 2011.

http://forum.egosoft.de/viewtopic.php?t ... sc&start=0

I already did. Egosoft and Deep Silver are proud to announce X-Rebirth for release in Q4 2011...

http://www.egosoft.com/x/xnews/201104_44_xr_news.html

Now, the exact words Beta were not used, but it sure as hell was implied when they talk about all the features they were "playing" around with.

http://www.egosoft.com/x/xnews/201109_1_44news.html

"On the cusp of Beta Testing Phase"

Now, thank me for doing the searching for you.

The Q · Post by **The Q** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:13

BarrenEarth wrote:Now, the exact words Beta were not used, but it sure as hell was implied when they talk about all the features they were "playing" around with.

So, they didn't announced the beta testing back then. Thanks for the confirmation. As for the features they mentioned, it's a game announcement. Of course, they have to name some features there. Apart from the expected release quarter, I cannot see anything in these announcements, which would suggest they would do betatesting back then.

BarrenEarth wrote:http://www.egosoft.com/x/xnews/201109_1_44news.html

"On the cusp of Beta Testing Phase"

You should read the whole article though. The phrase you quoted is from the article about the X-Timelines Mod and NOT about X Rebirth:

On the cusp of the mod entering its Beta testing phase

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:20

The Q wrote:
BarrenEarth wrote:Now, the exact words Beta were not used, but it sure as hell was implied when they talk about all the features they were "playing" around with.
So, they didn't announced the beta testing back then. Thanks for the confirmation.

BarrenEarth wrote:"On the cusp of Beta Testing Phase"
You should read the whole article though. The phrase you quoted is from the article about the X-Timelines Mod and NOT about X Rebirth:

On the cusp of the mod entering its Beta testing phase

You are right... but why did they continue to tell us over and over that it was almost ready for release if it was a lie, or something major broke?

Why the contest to win a signed copy... in September of 2011.

What if you won that contest only to find out the signed copy wouldn't come for another 2, maybe 3 years?

Do you deny that to be "almost ready for release" you would be implying some form of testing of a final or close to final product?

I just don't get blind faith like yours.

Ratzsa · Post by **Ratzsa** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:21

X Rebirth for PC is expected to be released in the fourth quarter of 2011.

Expected to. Not set. Just an expectation. About as legit as a wild guess by a chimp.

Fallent · Post by **Fallent** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:25

"X Rebirth for PC is expected to be released in the fourth quarter of 2011. "

From Barren Earths link. There it is. Announcement of release from Egosoft employee, XenonSlayer. This game is DELAYED by a VERY long time, with no release date still set.

What could of happened to delay this game by such a long time? If the game came out mid 2012 I could of believed the small tasks simply adding up over time and not meeting the expectation of 2011, but 2012 has come and past with literally nearly nothing new, and here we are in 2013.

Either the game is delayed or Egosoft were telling fibs in that it was never really expected for 2011, just greatly hoping. In which case why should we believe it will be out in 2013 before late December?

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:27

Ratzsa wrote:
X Rebirth for PC is expected to be released in the fourth quarter of 2011.
Expected to. Not set. Just an expectation. About as legit as a wild guess by a chimp.

Both Deep Silver and Egosoft were talking about specific things about Rebirth... they made claims of ease of use, new UI, new user experiences...

Two years is a long time if they already knew enough about the development to talk specifics then, but have no specifics now.

And after all that, to then release a pre-alpha test video? what a slap in the face to fans.

Ratzsa · Post by **Ratzsa** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:28

Maybe you're just reading it wrong.

And after all that, to then release a pre-alpha test video? what a slap in the face to fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
More like you interpreting it like a slap in YOUR face. Most people don't take it so personally.

Post by **Nanook** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 21:32

Of course he is. They were talking about the design, not development, when mentioning UI and such. Design is a long way from development, and often changes as problems are encountered during development. As a self-proclaimed expert programmer, he should know that.

And as for the 2011 release, at least one of the devs have already admitted that was an oops and shouldn't have been made. So let it rest in peace, OK?

Fallent · Post by **Fallent** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 22:09

Nanook wrote:
And as for the 2011 release, at least one of the devs have already admitted that was an oops and shouldn't have been made. So let it rest in peace, OK?

You've got to admit going from 2011 to 2013 is a pretty damn big opps!

If I told my GF I'm picking her up from work, estimated 8pm. Then arrived 1am, and told her it was only an estimated time of arrival, I doubt it would pass with her.

I think I could understand and expect a little sarcasm from her...

AkrionXxarr · Post by **AkrionXxarr** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 22:19

Fallent wrote:You've got to admit going from 2011 to 2013 is a pretty damn big opps!

If I told my GF I'm picking her up from work, estimated 8pm. Then arrived 1am, and told her it was only an estimated time of arrival, I doubt it would pass with her.

I think I could understand and expect a little sarcasm from her...

That's far from an equal comparison.