X-Rebirth Top 10 Questions answered by Egosoft (screenshots)

[DaddyMonster]

Secondly, nowhere in this thread or even the forum have I seen people posting that they hope the game will fail. It gets parroted a lot by fanboys, despite having no basis in fact.

And yes, the shadenfreude is delicious.

Owl hasn't exactly got Brain, but he Knows Things.

Oh, my apologies, I seem to have put a ridiculous quote in there.

[Informer]

On 15 November X rebirth 1.0 is coming out. So off course this game is not perfect in the beginning. Egosoft isn't hide that. (like other big developers do, and bring us games, costing millions, with there fancy dlc's and still are crap)
This game will have a big support for many years to come, from the makers, and from the modders. If you like games like X then I would say, buy it, because you support a small game studio, who just want to make a great game. Also this game is not X4, it is a new game, maybe even a new IP.

So call me a fan boy, maybe I am, but I also want to fly other ships. But it is no reason for me not to buy this game, because maybe this game is much better in other ways. For me, it is still a must buy. Can not wait to play ver 1.0

Greettzzzz

[Nosscar]

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Yeah. Pretty sure they've said the entire game is 4 systems.

Yep!

Is the word "system" actually used as a descriptor?

I've heard Bernd, on more than one occasion, carefully describe Zones, Sectors (groups of zones) and Clusters (groups of Sectors) . . . and he never once, that I recall, used the word System.

Just trawled thru this thread, just a couple of things to note:
Systems are clearly stated by bernd.
"It starts with what we call zones. This can be anything from a city in space or a group of factories to a unique asteroid field or any other interesting location. Zones are either at the end of local highways or alongside a local highway. Most of the time a group of zones, sometimes hundreds of kilometers apart form a sector. Sectors are then connected with superhighways and form a cluster (e.g a solar system)."

And yes we are surely all Fanboys and supporters of the game aren't we.?
Otherwise why would we even bother with this forum.
I wouldn't if I didn't want to buy the game, not looking forward to it ect.
And x3 is still there for those.

[Alan Phipps]

Either the fanboi/fanboy and troll name-calling and general discussion thereof end now, or the thread will be locked and official warnings may be issued.

[ThommoHawk]

@ BinarySlave

That's the spirit. Take up the challenge, way to go. Claim back the forum for all that is right! Achieve XTREME forum rank, and all that.

Well, I'm being mostly silly here I know, but those guys you consider to be acting in a trolling way are rather mild little fish compared to what used to go on here prior to the release announcement. Many here have purchased the game and will play it but enjoying Egosoft's games has never stopped me from going on about my little dislikes, not just all about what I love, which is plenty. I do it in a respectful manner though, (er, most of the time) that is important.

We need more people around here to show the way forward though.

Calling all Lurkers - DeLurk Now!

Join the cause. Practice giving feedback to Egosoft before playing the game.

(hear the sound of hundreds of thousands of footsteps running away quickly).

There are really very few active forum members here at XRebirth (and other areas) - maybe a few hundred max? including other languages. (compared to how many XUniverse games are out there) So often it is like a broken record playing the same old same old same old topics....

[Earth Ultimatum IV.]

Wait.

So now Bernd says that there is no direct way to control capital ships from inside.

BUT a week ago/two weeks he said in the first episode of X Rebirth game videos that you can "dock at your capital ship and command it from there".

So how is it now?
Am I supposed to believe that he denied only DIRECT way of commanding (speaking face 2 face with captain), yet using intercomm or something like that is still in there? Or how?



Yes, the game is getting closer and closer, but still, I love to talk about Rebirth, otherwise I wouldnt be doing this. And Iam hungry for any info.

[Ericius11]

Guess I'm coming a little late to the party...

On the contrary: You have UI modes while you are in your much more versatile, fast and maneuverable player ship (the Skunk). With those modes you can very quickly and efficiently command a capital ship to pick up objects for example.

I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed by his response. I don't want to PILOT capital ships. However, I did want to command them while on board. It would have been nice if those "UI" modes were on capital ships too, but Bernd didn't mention any... Perhaps this will be added later, but who knows. Maybe I'll just have to stay a fleet commander while piloting the skunk. That's the way I've always played before. and I still love the old X games. No reason why I can't do the same thing now... I'm still buying this game. X Rebirth has wasaay too many nice features to do otherwise.

[Nosscar]

I too was disappointed by not being able to command my ships from inside.
I have noticed a lot of the interviews where Bernd states that we will look at what the community wants after release, maybe this, we will see, maybe later ect.

I am sort of getting a feeling that x rebirth 1.0 will be a bit like a bare bones game. Where a lot of the better ideas will be instigated later after being approved by the community. Might be wrong. Just a feeling.

[halfbloodmoonsplit]

Wait.

So now Bernd says that there is no direct way to control capital ships from inside.

BUT a week ago/two weeks he said in the first episode of X Rebirth game videos that you can "dock at your capital ship and command it from there".

So how is it now?
Am I supposed to believe that he denied only DIRECT way of commanding (speaking face 2 face with captain), yet using intercomm or something like that is still in there? Or how?



Yes, the game is getting closer and closer, but still, I love to talk about Rebirth, otherwise I wouldnt be doing this. And Iam hungry for any info.

I think another poster already pointed out to you that Bernd never defined "there"

Bernd said you can dock to a capital and control it from there, obviously now what he meant was you stay in your Skunk, attached to the capital and command it from the skunk. This is critical because Capitals can Jump into other Solar Systems, the Skunk can't.

You are simply hitching a ride (Like in Star Wars V)

[Ericius11]

I suppose that wouldn't be too bad... but with the absence of a 3rd person view, I guess a lot of us were hoping for some sort window to look out of so we could see our orders being carried out.

Which brings up something else. I saw a couple people mention RTS elements. Are we talking about Real Time Strategy? Granted, combat has always been in real time, and thus is technically RTS... but usually games with RTS elements are viewed top-down like looking at a map. Has something else been added?

[halfbloodmoonsplit]

I suppose that wouldn't be too bad... but with the absence of a 3rd person view, I guess a lot of us were hoping for some sort window to look out of so we could see our orders being carried out.

Which brings up something else. I saw a couple people mention RTS elements. Are we talking about Real Time Strategy? Granted, combat has always been in real time, and thus is technically RTS... but usually games with RTS elements are viewed top-down like looking at a map. Has something else been added?

The idea of a RTS UI for command and control has been floated on here for years. To the best of our knowledge this has not been implemented, however the same people who were so certain that we could play James T Kirk in our capital ships also claim that this feature too will be added.

Take that worth a grain of salt.

[Demongornot]

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I'm really sorry to throw your hope away in the space...
But their will be no deck for capital ship, no bridge = no deck...And i'm pretty sure that we will have nothing to look outside...

The fact that they said that capital ship is not something we will stay long time inside also reveal that they have not a big 3D interior and that their is not a lot of things to do, that also mean that the commanding is not really advanced and i'm in fact sure that except maybe one or two poor order we will not be able to give more order from inside a capital ship that what we can do from the Skunk...
So probably no "move devencive, move evasive, move in snake manoeuver, turn 35° left, rotate 55° right, move 750m forward, turrets 3 to 8 shoot this ship subsystem, launcher tube 5 6 and 9 firing this missing at this target, squadron blue attack subsystem of this ship, squadron red protect the left of our ship...Etc etc
Everything like this we have expecting i think this is sadly no more possible in vanilla game, for now and for the future...

And with all this bad new in the interview + the fact that they have never talk about it + the video of the interface of the game we have see...I'm not really sure about RTS commanding style sadly...And i think that we will even have LESS control than previous game, no more commanding from map, but only = Move/dock to this ship/station, follow/excort this ship, jump to this sector, take this highway/gate...And that's all.
Modding is our last hope.


And about the Money machine...I don't see the issue to buy EXPENSIVE SHIP and buy sometimes EXPENSIVE ship upgrade that cost almost the same as the ship for need to make it ourselves, it is exactly like if you buy a really expensive 100k industrual robot like this http://www.elecnor.es/Files/Imagenes/Ro ... sa%201.jpg and that rather than programming it to do exactly the same task over and over, you need YOURSELF (even if you can paid an employee for this) to manually control this or manually order it what to do...
I'm sorry but this it make no senses...
But anyway when we will own a capital ship and use the discount for a single mission we will probably get 100 time credits that what a TS XL full upgraded can give us while running for hours...
So it make again more no senses to prevent TS and other "big but far from capital ship" to do automated trading...

[MutantDwarf]

What, you think industrial robots don't need human supervision, maintenance, ongoing costs, etc?

They do. They aren't automated money machines that do absolutely everything necessary to design, build, market, and sell a product (nor can they even do a single one of those things without outside intervention).

[Shootist]

form a cluster (e.g a solar system)."

I know that quote, the yellow text wasn't part of it (id est, btw, not exempli glatia).

I'm still not convinced that Bernd has referred to anything other than Zones, Sectors and Clusters (I'm not suggesting that commentators haven't mentioned Star, Solar or Planetary systems, however), though thanks for the effort.


<Edit made: Please see where I said not to continue that line of discussion. Alan Phipps>

[Shootist]

Wait.

So now Bernd says that there is no direct way to control capital ships from inside.

BUT a week ago/two weeks he said in the first episode of X Rebirth game videos that you can "dock at your capital ship and command it from there".

I always took that quote to mean Ren could land (dock) on the ship and give orders from the flight deck of the Skunk.

[Shootist]

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I'm really sorry to throw your hope away in the space...
But their will be no deck for capital ship, no bridge = no deck...And i'm pretty sure that we will have nothing to look outside...

Not having a Bridge does not mean there is not a deck. Some capships have docking areas. The "ground" of the docking area is, by definition, a "deck".

[Tenlar Scarflame]

I suspect there will be an official "what do you want added to the game?" thread a few months / maybe a year following release. I also suspect that there will be a VERY high demand for a real bridge, even just one to stand on and feel cool, in that thread.

[Len5]

Wait.

So now Bernd says that there is no direct way to control capital ships from inside.

BUT a week ago/two weeks he said in the first episode of X Rebirth game videos that you can "dock at your capital ship and command it from there".

I always took that quote to mean Ren could land (dock) on the ship and give orders from the flight deck of the Skunk.

Yes, giving orders, that's commanding. Controlling isn't the same as commanding, controlling is steering.
So Bernd could still be right.

[Demongornot]

What, you think industrial robots don't need human supervision, maintenance, ongoing costs, etc?

They do. They aren't automated money machines that do absolutely everything necessary to design, build, market, and sell a product (nor can they even do a single one of those things without outside intervention).

Ho please don't do like if you don't know what i talk about...
First this is a VIDEO GAME and not an industrial simulator, and second, it still that the machine create more benefit than an employee...
Someone who manually assembling part of cars for example, do you really think he will be :
A supervisor to check his work, the foreman what you think he is ? Machine like this make less error than humans.
Maintenance ? you think an human running everyday without money don't need to be paid, medical care (from the society) in case of issue and are a magical tool ? they are slower, need to take pauses, eat and need complex things including security rules.

And i was talking about the fact that when they are programmed they do the job WITHOUT need a constant human interaction, they never stop and you can't get close to them anyway.
Industrial robot are better than humans and that's why factory use them, cause if it is not their is no reason to buy this expensive thing, but this is a good investment.
The fact is, when you buy an automated device, or paid expensive price for a society with several truck and drivers, you DON'T need to do it yourself and most of the time, MAINLY if you take a manager, you just have to check if your enterprise work well that's all, this is why their is advantage to create huge society and paid expensive salaries and manager, for lets you enjoying to get money without need to care about it, why do you think rich people have all the free time they want ?

[Shootist]

Wait.

So now Bernd says that there is no direct way to control capital ships from inside.

BUT a week ago/two weeks he said in the first episode of X Rebirth game videos that you can "dock at your capital ship and command it from there".

I always took that quote to mean Ren could land (dock) on the ship and give orders from the flight deck of the Skunk.

Yes, giving orders, that's commanding. Controlling isn't the same as commanding, controlling is steering.
So Bernd could still be right.

I don't think Earth has been talking about piloting the bigships. Ideally, I think, he wants to sit in Kirk's chair and tell das Capitan what to do and when.