Playing With Seven Headquarters (in Vanilla X3AP)

[perkint]

If only one person has found a particular bug, Egosoft are unlikely to give any priority to fixing it. If lots of people are "suffering" from the bug, they may fix it but then there'll be lots of people to tell them where it is

It does provide entertainment with threads like this tho - a challenge for others to try to solve and a save game with an apparently well set up empire (only say "apparently" because I have not downloaded or looked) for others to look at any maybe take inspiration from

Tim

[ConCorDian]

therefore i think your getting the point... holding this information to yourself is doing nothing other than stopping some people from getting multiple PHq's of their own whilst still getting to run through the mini plots on their own...

an arguement for egosoft though.... why not have PHq's available for purchase only AFTER the PHq plot is finnished. make it available from NMMC for something like 500mil per PHq... or by doing missions again (resource collecting to more or less give NMMC what they need to build it) with a final installment of 125mil or summit.

once its finnished you get a new Albatross with a PHq jump into PTNI, (they are built in a secret location!! )

or better only allow Heph station corp build them for you and add a 24 hr build time to the PHQ

[kurush]

Let's keep in mind here that anybody can get a memory editor and search for changed addresses as you modify things in the game.

Let's do that: I pass you a modified game and you change this flag you claim is so easy to change back to "normal" I suggest you practice you your own save game first though, this is not nearly as easy as you claim and I in fact don't know how to do this. I will even send you that $100 you craving so much if you do this and publish how you did this. Many people who got hit by random modified tags would love to know how to do this, so it would be a good service for the community and I'm willing to pay $100 for it. For the record, here are the things I did NOT do to create my saves:
- Use any type of memory editor
- Edit the save game file outside of AP
- Use a script without a signature
- Modify any files that come with X3 installation
Saying more would jeopardize getting me a CEO position @ ES
Just face it: my exploit is bigger than yours
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[perkint]

therefore i think your getting the point... holding this information to yourself

Sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here, ConCorDian, but since I was the only poster between your two posts, this seems as tho it was aimed at me! But I'm not the one who knows the exploit...



Tim

[kurush]

therefore i think your getting the point... holding this information to yourself is doing nothing other than stopping some people from getting multiple PHq's of their own whilst still getting to run through the mini plots on their own...

an arguement for egosoft though.... why not have PHq's available for purchase only AFTER the PHq plot is finnished. make it available from NMMC for something like 500mil per PHq... or by doing missions again (resource collecting to more or less give NMMC what they need to build it) with a final installment of 125mil or summit.

If you add Headquaters to a shipyard, the price is 200mil+ as you can see in those saves I uploaded. Not quite 500, but still significant. I guess ES issue with this is that multiple PHQ are a bit broken in the game. Blueprints can't be shared, they can only be purchased for the latest PHQ you deployed, etc. I thought about adding another PHQ to my existing long-running game and decided against it. Too much hassle in managing it.

[kenright]

... This thread went downhill fast.

I had assumed he was joking when he was asking for a copy of X:Rebirth, but apparently not.

Que sera sera.

Anyways, I don't see why people care about the modified tag (except WRG to getting Steam achievements, but those are equally as pointless. I do see how it would be annoying if you got hit with it for no reason, though).

[kurush]

... This thread went downhill fast.

Me likes it more and more. It hurts to laugh so much

Anyways, I don't see why people care about the modified tag

This is why you didn't get any medals

(except WRG to getting Steam achievements, but those are equally as pointless. I do see how it would be annoying if you got hit with it for no reason, though).

Thinking like this, the entire game is a pointless waste of time. It is only as good as the entertainment value it provides and achievements are a part of it.

[Jumee]

It is only as good as the entertainment value it provides and achievements are a part of it.

but being modified can add quite a lot of entertainment value

anyway, got to agree this thread is quite funny

[kenright]

... This thread went downhill fast.

Me likes it more and more. It hurts to laugh so much

Anyways, I don't see why people care about the modified tag

This is why you didn't get any medals

(except WRG to getting Steam achievements, but those are equally as pointless. I do see how it would be annoying if you got hit with it for no reason, though).

Thinking like this, the entire game is a pointless waste of time. It is only as good as the entertainment value it provides and achievements are a part of it.

Eh I tend to play with mods and stuff, so my game gets the modified tag. And I don't upload statistics, which is why I don't get any medals

To me, the "point" of the game is achieving what I want to do. I have my own goals and see if I can reach them. I don't really care if other people know I do or if Steam is happy that I completed 10 War missions. I'd rather see just how large and well-oiled an empire I can build. Other people are into achievements and competition in games like this, and that's perfectly valid for them.

[TTD]

As I have often said...
There is no right or wrong way to play.
Each to their own.
But the best way to play ,is the way you get most enjoyment as an individual.

I like trading and bending the game to my will.

But I will always start in vanilla mode until I understand the game enough to use S/Ms.
My main TC game stayed vanilla until I had completed all story plots.
Slight exception was AP.But that was basically TC anyway.
Once I realized that,then S/M came natural.

However,it is still nice to see "exploits" in vanilla,even if Ego does try to close them.

[Bothersome]

2) Using a hack similar to what I've done to be able to run any scripts or mods without getting *modified*. I can now create a "vanilla" save with 100 Xenon #decas flying in Argon prime, if somebody is interested.

I think we already know how you did it.

[kurush]

Backing off already on your comment that you can remove ***modified*** easily? No longer interested in $100?

I think we already know how you did it.

Exactly, as I said, my exploit is bigger than yours And not something you are capable of reproducing either. hack is nearly synonymous to exploit btw, hacks happen via exploits

[Bothersome]

No, you're not turning the tables on me. I never accepted your offer. And I'm not going to please you chasing your challenges.

The 100 dollars was a wager that the exploit that anyone can do, inside the game, exists. But you are trying to turn it into some kind of challenge you are offering. Not interested. Do you wish to bet against me that the exploit exists?

I looked at your game and you have either a signed cheat script or you found a way to sign it, or you hacked the modify flag or you smuggled in a script into egosoft (bonus pack) that has a built-in back door.

According to your previous statement, you hacked it.

Yeah, you got the power to modify whatever. But that's not something we all can have is it? You willing to give that info up? Is it something the new player can do without having to go and download something?

The exploit that the thread is about is inside the game from egosoft. And you don't have to go download anything to make use of it.

But you are trying to steal the attention away from it with all this hand waving you're doing to draw attention to yourself. Get over it dude.

[kurush]

But you are trying to turn it into some kind of challenge you are offering. Not interested. Do you wish to bet against me that the exploit exists?

Honestly, I don't care about your exploit as I have a bigger one . On the challenge, you claimed that anyone can remove modified tag. This is a pure BS, and I am calling you on it.

[Bothersome]

Any CAN do it. I didn't say it would be easy.

It will take time and effort to find out where that memory cell is and I have no inclination to try because I don't need to just make you happy.

Since it is possible for anyone to actually do it, may statement holds true.

Now will you shut up about it?

[kurush]

Any CAN do it. I didn't say it would be easy.

This is like saying that anyone can hack modern encryption. It is reversible so it surely can be done, right? The fact that nobody ever did tells otherwise. The amount of effort to figure that out is quite hard, not something I would care to do. And way beyond your capabilities no doubt

[Bothersome]

And you didn't say anything I didn't already know.

But you didn't answer any of the questions I asked above.

[kurush]

And you didn't say anything I didn't already know.

Know that and say that anyone can remove the modified tag? Give me a break
On this

But that's not something we all can have is it? You willing to give that info up? Is it something the new player can do without having to go and download something?

I am actually willing to share to interested parties who are credible, doesn't look like you are Otherwise, this pissing match wouldn't get started. It is enjoyable by itself though.

[Bothersome]

Enough is enough.

This thread was/is about an exploit that anyone can do without needing any outside program. One that can be performed inside the game as purchased from Egosoft. The reason my brother's save game was offered was to show that things are possible and as a vehicle to show how a large empire can be made to run automaticly and without a lot of user intevention.

You kurush interjected your off-topic save game(s) to stroke your own ego about your hacking abilities. The topic is not about you. If you need to have your ego stroked you should start own thread and quit interjecting noise into this one. Your saved games didn't have any clues as to what exploits are in the game. Only to show you have a editing ability and a way to cover your tracks. How does that help anyone else?

If you have something to offer about an exploit inside the game or from the bonus pack then please discuss that or stay on topic about such. But please don't interject any more noise about your hacking abilities here. Thanks.

[kurush]

You have saves, I have saves. I still plan to follow up with a Xenon start save eventually Until you publish what you have, we are on the same boat