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Post by -XTM- »

Midnight update, I'll answer questions tomorrow cause I'm too tired atm.

Paranid M7:
Note that this models textures do not pick up on 3ds lightsourcing as good as some others do, giving it a rather flat look...this will be much better when it's ingame.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1508 ... ly12wk.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/755/ ... ly24kq.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8448 ... ly35et.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4471 ... ly41nr.jpg

Comparison shot with Argon M7:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3213 ... are2wa.jpg

Goodnight to you all, cu tomorrow :wink:
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Post by GilDale »

Moxy these are awesome!

Really like what I am seeing here cant wait to see the complete set of them!

I will def sign up as a beta tester when u need one :)
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Post by Misinformed »

My god man youve created not only a much needed ship type that fills the gap between destroyer and corvette, but youve done it gracefully. The way youve modelled it using similar ship designs puts it nicely in context with existing Argon designs. Now most of the modded ships ive seen so far look fair, this could pass as being professionally made.

I just hope that its tweaked to fit in with existing ships once ingame, and it continues the Argons strengths and weaknesses statistically.

Sorry i havnt read all of the last 6 pages :wink:
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Post by Azuriel »

simply amazing! please continue :)
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Post by RRRoamer »

Wow! Very nice work! I'm looking forward to being able to pick one of these babies up at some point.

Any way to integrate vertical launch tubes into the forward section of the Argon M7? That would look SWEET seeing multiple missles launching out of the tubes in front of the bridge!
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Post by Misinformed »

Just an after thought, but because youve got 3 different model versions of the Argon M7 (my personal fav being option 2) why not have 3 variants of the M7 for each race. I know it would triple your workload, but it really would be a shame to let 2 out of the 3 fantastic models dissappear into oblivion. And it would be somewhat in character with existing ships in X3. For instance there are different variants of corvettes in game, however variation in capital ships thus far does not exsits.

The M7 could be the new largest ship type to have variation in design. If you would rather finish 1 type of M7 for each race first (which would be lovely) theres still the option to add variants at a later time.
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Post by Anoik »

I like more the second option of the Argon M7 too :)
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Post by Sandalpocalypse »

tossing some names out there,

Terran - Fenrir
Split - Panther
Boron - Hammerhead
Argon - Gladiator
Paranid - Zealot
Teladi - Roc

as for variants it is better to focus on getting the prime versions working and hammered out and then think about variants. in any case variants would probably need to have a much higher reputation requirement and cost, so they can wait.

one thing that would be good with this mod is to bump down the required rep on the big ships.
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Post by bendyspex »

Thats a good point. What will the required rep be for these ships. Maybe have it one lower than capital ships, as that would mean people could get them sooner than a capitol ship, which makes sense. I'm liking the Paranid M7.
About the Teladi M7. Their ship sizes are very different between the destroyer and carrier. Does this mean you will make the M7 slightly smaller than the destroyer, or the carrier?
Keep up the good work :)
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Post by -XTM- »

One more Bridged crossed towards release!
Egosoft just gave the all-clear about releasing this mod regarding to the models being copyright protected (as long as proper credit is being given to ES for the original models ofcourse).
*Pfew*.
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Questions;

-About the rep required to get a m7;
I still have to look into that but my aim atm is 2 levels below the rank needed for a M1/M2.

-Balance and loadout;
The strength of the M7 should be about 1/2-1/3 that of a M2 (which means it will probably be somewhat evenly matched to a M1 in gunstrength.
The Terran M7 will be stronger.

-Different models;
I'd like that too and don't see any reason why there can't be a Raider/Vanguard/Sentinel version of the M7.
Currently the focus is 1 version for all races in the initial release, followed by updates.

-Special weapons modding;
Since this will complicate balanced loadouts tremendously there will be none in the initial release.
Future updates might include such things as missile frigates etc., all depending on the possibilities within X3 ofcourse.


-Boron/Teladi versions;
The Teladi M2 is probably the biggest ship in the game.
Their M7 will follow suit in it's class, stay tuned :)
Boron version is somewhat of a mistery still...I've got several designs in
the making and I'll pick the one that fits the class and is yet distinctive enough most.

-Did I forget your question?
Plz remind me :)

> To all of you who have given input including names etc, a big thanks!
I'll take them all into consideration as most of them are very good anyway.

> Also thanks for comments in general, it's nice to know people care and are involved, makes for one sunny day at the time.

Requests:

> For those willing to Beta-test, plz give me a PM with header BetaTest_name, that way I can keep track of you easy and you'll thenbe put on the mailinglist when things are up for release.

> I could realy, realy realy use some help with the scene files so if you know how to handle them plz give me a sign.
If you do just one you'll do us all a big favour.
(Info : scenefiles are the part of the model where gunplacement is defined. This is a very timeconsuming job and since it must be done anyway, could delay release significantly.)
Only volunteer for this if you think of yourself as being someone with thorough knowledge on this already plz.
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Post by Dgn Master »

Moxy wrote:One more Bridged crossed towards release!
Egosoft just gave the all-clear about releasing this mod regarding to the models being copyright protected (as long as proper credit is being given to ES for the original models ofcourse).
Maybe, if were lucky, they will allow the M7's to be signed in a patch. Sounds promising :)

Love your paranid model.. trully awesome, you've outdone yourself!
Could the parents of the little Argon girl, Suzie, please claim her sealed jar of remains?
She didn't mind the gap and ended up vapourized!
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Post by Sandalpocalypse »

AFAIK,

mods can't get signed... *shrug*
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Post by Dgn Master »

Sandalpocalypse wrote:AFAIK,

mods can't get signed... *shrug*
Signed was just my way of saying made an official addition to X3, be it signed, given the OK, or the stamp of approval :D

Either way i would still like to see all Moxy's hard work be rewarded.
Could the parents of the little Argon girl, Suzie, please claim her sealed jar of remains?
She didn't mind the gap and ended up vapourized!
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Post by CO. Dragon Corp »

Moxy wrote:-Did I forget your question?
Plz remind me :)
First I wanna thank you again for your effort.

And then....yes, you forgot to answer my question how's colaboration going with Mehrunes. I just ask because he didn't answer to his "M6 Upgrade" topic lately... :wink:
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Post by Misinformed »

While were discussing some specifics such as prequisits, ie race ranks, it might be a good idea to hammer out a cost. Nothing specific yet but something in line with race ships all ready available from shipyards. The cost of any given races corvette, carriers and destroyers which is in line with their capabilities.

I suggest a cost roughly 3 times that of any given races corvette. It would be dependant on its statistics though. But it obviosly cant be anywhere near the cost of a corvette or anything like as expensive as a destroyer.

So 30mil for an Argon M7 for example. Just an idea.
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Post by X-it »

Apparently Moxy agrees with your cost estimation:
Moxy wrote:M7-Class.
Preliminary specs:

-Speed : between m2 and m6, 80/90 someting.
-Shield : 1 GJ
-Weaponry : 6 to 8 Big turrets, multiple smaller ones.
-Lasergen : Big
-Shieldgen : Big
-Size : roughly 1/3th that of an M2/TL
-Docking support : Yes, but only for a small squadron (6 ships max).
-Cargo : XL, about 5.000
-Rep required to get one : Between M6 and M2 level
-Price : around 30 to 40 mil.
-Max gun size : Beta
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Post by Jsangster »

few names

These are all names ive not heard used before in sci-fi as ships, but include the meanings behind them.

ARES Αρης m Greek Mythology
Perhaps from either Greek αρη (are) "bane, ruin" or αρσην (arsen) "male"...

CASTOR m Greek Mythology (Latinized)
From the Greek Καστωρ (Kastor), possibly related to κεκασμαι (kekasmai) "to shine, to excel"...

Edited, I didnt read the earlier posts
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Post by Galaxy613 »

Jsangster wrote:few names for the argon m7

These are all names ive not heard used before in sci-fi, but include the meanings behind them.

ARES Αρης m Greek Mythology
Perhaps from either Greek αρη (are) "bane, ruin" or αρσην (arsen) "male"...

CASTOR m Greek Mythology (Latinized)
From the Greek Καστωρ (Kastor), possibly related to κεκασμαι (kekasmai) "to shine, to excel"...

DAEDALUS m Greek Mythology (Latinized)
Latinized form of the Greek Δαιδαλος (Daidalos) which meant "cunning" or "curiously wrought"...

NEMESIS Νεμεσις f Greek Mythology
Means "retribution, righteous anger" in Greek...
Daedalus is already used in a plot-related Paranid Ship and Nemesis is the name of the Paranid M6. ;)
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Post by Jsangster »

i suck, i never go through the plot, heh

But ill take any name (cept fluffy)

those ships are awesome

If these are gunships, how about making them have at least twice the laser energy of an m2, id keep the shields as you suggest though.

so theyd be a real threat in the right hands. two of em could wipe out any m2, but one on one with an m2 would make you think twice
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Post by X-it »

Some other Greeks:

Artemis
Aphrodite (ships should have female names, right? :P )
Athena
Apollo
Hera
Hades

Some Norse:

Odin
Thor
Mjollnir (Thor's hammer)
Loki
Tyr
Aegir
Frigg
Balder
Freya
Skidbladnir (Freya's ship)
Ragnarok (end of the world)
Asgard (home of the gods)
Valhall (home of slain heroes)
Hel (keeper of the dead)

Maybe not the most suitable names for X3, but... :P

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