[Discussion] Generic X3TC S&M questions I

[ladyboy]

can anybody tell me if it's possible to just rename existing wares? (and the method)
instead of creating new ones.

I've checked out the tutorials on creating wares but i can't get custom wares to work. - sorry if the info is already in this thread.. i've gone through a lot of the pages but.. there's a lot.

[ThisIsHarsh]

I'm having trouble retasking Xenon ships, i.e. starting a different script on Xenon ships after they have spawned via jobs.

It seems that retasking a Xenon ship causes jobs to see it as dead and respawn it. My script then retasks the newly spawned Xenon ship, so jobs spawns another, etc. This results in non-stop respawns of Xenon ships, which is obviously bad.

I've tried with and without changing the homebase/homesector, and using 'interrupt task' instead of START. Doesn't seem to help.

Surely someone has come across this issue before? Any hints?

[jlehtone]

@ladyboy: The names of wares are in text files. However, use of custom wares may still be a better alternative. Look at the EMP mod, if you haven't already.


@ThisIsHarsh: Why not an edit of TJobs to make the Xenon run the right script all along?

[Cycrow]

Like jlehtone said, missile objects do not exist OOS, therefore you can not intercept them.
When fired, they hit instanteous at any range.

However, missiles do not automatically hit. I don't know the responsible variables but a missile fired OOS hits... sometimes.

It's black magic just like the OOS laser fire results.

i havn't looked at the code for awhile, but i think its simply a random value to weather it hits or not

[ThisIsHarsh]

@ThisIsHarsh: Why not an edit of TJobs to make the Xenon run the right script all along?

I really want to avoid the murky world of mods and their incompatibilities. Besides, there *has* to be an easier way, I don't like giving up on things so easily...

[Cycrow]

@ThisIsHarsh: Why not an edit of TJobs to make the Xenon run the right script all along?

I really want to avoid the murky world of mods and their incompatibilities. Besides, there *has* to be an easier way, I don't like giving up on things so easily...

u need to turn race logic off if u want to use a different scripts, otherwise the jobs engine will will either kill it or restart its original task

jsut set the race logic to false on the ship and it should just follow your script instead. As it still has a job id it should still remain in the jobs list quota

[Gazz]

Hah! You remember what happend the last time the Xenon got "just a patch"?

There's never enough time to do it right but always time to fight an interstellar war...

[ThisIsHarsh]

@ThisIsHarsh: Why not an edit of TJobs to make the Xenon run the right script all along?

I really want to avoid the murky world of mods and their incompatibilities. Besides, there *has* to be an easier way, I don't like giving up on things so easily...

u need to turn race logic off if u want to use a different scripts, otherwise the jobs engine will will either kill it or restart its original task

jsut set the race logic to false on the ship and it should just follow your script instead. As it still has a job id it should still remain in the jobs list quota

Aha! Nice one, thanks a lot for that!

[ladyboy]

@ladyboy: The names of wares are in text files. However, use of custom wares may still be a better alternative. Look at the EMP mod, if you haven't already.

I'm having trouble finding the text files jlehtone is refering to. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

Edit: Found it.

[Litcube]

How do you remove a preload script from a command?

[ThisIsHarsh]

How do you remove a preload script from a command?

The only way I found is to overwrite it with your own preload script. I had to do this when overwriting a stock script that had a preload.

[Litcube]

But I did overwrite it with my own; the wrong one. That's the problem.

[Gazz]

So overwrite it again with a dummy script that does nothing. =)

[s9ilent]

Technically, the dummy script will have to return true.

[jlehtone]

When is the preload script assigned to command? Once and stored in savegame, or during every load?


(Anecdote: MS had a program called "Word". It had predefined shortcut keys. US version did use Ctrl-Alt-2 for "set header style". On non-US keyboard, that keycode was expected to generate '@'. Semi-useful character. So, every media around had "tip": how to bind "insert special symbol @" to Ctrl-Alt-2. User shortcut did override the default shortcut.

Except that it was generally sluggish. One could have simply undefined the default keybinding, and thus got the raw '@'. )

[Raumkraut93]

Hi,

I've a few questions to the TJobs...

1) How can I set, that Ships of the Argon Federation spawn in all Sectors that belong to PLAYER ?

OR

2) When there are factories of the argon federation in my sector, will that Factories automatically generate Freighters or must I set it, when yes how?

3) When I create new Xenon Sectors, are there automatically Xenon spawns or have i to adjust it first (how?)

Thank you a lot in advance

mfg

[s9ilent]

3. Some ships spawn in any xenon sector. Others are set with specific sectors.
i.e. Job 2001-2003 Are xenon and non sector specific (where 2003 is the m6/m7 raiding parties that fly out). The rest seem to be tied to specific sectors.
If you wanted other stuff as well, you would need to create more jobs tied to your sector (or just all xenon sectors)


2. Use the Has owners stations flags (X3 editor 2 can edit the jobs for you), and owner is Argon. Although I'm fairly certain that the only options for ship spawns is, in gate, in shipyard, or in space. So either in your config script, or the top of the job script, use a move to environment, and move it to a station.


1. Spawning dynamically in player sectors is not so easy. You could set it to spawn in all non-enemy sectors thou.
Although if you felt the overwhelming urge to make them spawn in JUST player sectors, you could do the same trick mentioned in 2 with the job/config script, moving them to the right sector.




Btw, did anyone else notice the 2003 job has Repair beam ticked? (Although, that is really just the "special weapons" bit mask, so it could be tractors/others. I don't suppose anyone has encountered repair beams on those xenon raiders?

[Litcube]

When is the preload script assigned to command? Once and stored in savegame, or during every load?

Once and stored in savegame, which makes thing totally bunk if you accidentaly use the wrong preload. Using a fake script isn't an elegant solution, really. If your regular keymap script requires arguments, that fake script has to be designed in such a way so as to work with it.

I have a feeling this was accidentally overlooked during developement.

[Cycrow]

just return an empty array in the dummy preload and the command should run normally

[ladyboy]

I'm using a script to count how many of a particular ware is in the cargo bay and printing it to the message log.

I'm using "$ship [this]" It works but it's only checks the cargo in 1 ship.

is it possible to make it check the cargo bay of all ships belonging to the player?