[SCRIPT] Military Base Response revamp v2.16 [2011-10-27]

Scoob · Post by **Scoob** » Mon, 27. Sep 10, 18:19

Hi,

Thanks for the update

Looks like you fixed it before I even read your initial response to my post. Nice.

Will test this evening.

Cheers,

Scoob.

Prism · Post by **Prism** » Tue, 28. Sep 10, 07:34

I need help finding the "config menu". It isn't in the AL page and nothing in ship commands.

Varek Raith · Post by **Varek Raith** » Tue, 28. Sep 10, 08:11

Prism wrote:I need help finding the "config menu". It isn't in the AL page and nothing in ship commands.

You need this.
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=218088
Install that and assign it a hotkey.
The config menu for MBR will be there.

Prism · Post by **Prism** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 00:52

Thanks a lot. That helped ^^ Could have sworn I replied to that before.

I have one more question for you, are the Xenon bases the Nexus'? They started spawning in their sectors after I enabled the script. I tried to use the ECS with them, but there is no effect.

Requiemfang · Post by **Requiemfang** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 01:07

Xenon Military outpost is what you want to try and com

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 01:11

Yeah I renamed the Xenon Military Ouposts to Xenon Nexus.

You should be able to ECS comm them. Can you comm other outposts? I'll test asap.

EDIT: just tested in my game and it works correctly. This has been reported before with other outposts, so could be the same issue. The outpost needs to be called for defense/invasion at least once before you can comm it. This doesn't usually take long, minutes at most. So if the Xenon Nexus was very recently spawned, the ECS comm might have no effect. Hopefully that's what you're seeing. Try a different outpost or just waiting for a short while.

Anunnak · Post by **Anunnak** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 01:12

I have Pirate Guild and Yaki Armada installed along with Pirate and Yaki starts, can these 2 'factions' use the same principle to invade, and take over sectors like the other factions?

Requiemfang · Post by **Requiemfang** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 01:23

they don't exactly take over the sectors, they set up camp there but don't take it over Anunnak

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 01:28

Anunnak wrote:I have Pirate Guild and Yaki Armada installed along with Pirate and Yaki starts, can these 2 'factions' use the same principle to invade, and take over sectors like the other factions?

This plugin doesn't touch pirate or yaki, I leave that in the capable hands of Serial Kicked (author of PG and YA). He has mentioned a while ago he intends to add sector takeover capability to his scripts soon. But for now, there is no sector takeover for pirates - although PG and YA do 'invade', they do not conquer, yet.

However, you can use Improved Races for the Yaki and they will invade sectors. I've used IR for a while alongside MBR and the two work well together. IMO, IR is good for 'special' races like Khaak and Yaki, whereas I prefer MBR for the main races.

Prism · Post by **Prism** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 07:08

ThisIsHarsh wrote:Yeah I renamed the Xenon Military Ouposts to Xenon Nexus.

You should be able to ECS comm them. Can you comm other outposts? I'll test asap.

EDIT: just tested in my game and it works correctly. This has been reported before with other outposts, so could be the same issue. The outpost needs to be called for defense/invasion at least once before you can comm it. This doesn't usually take long, minutes at most. So if the Xenon Nexus was very recently spawned, the ECS comm might have no effect. Hopefully that's what you're seeing. Try a different outpost or just waiting for a short while.

Ok thanks. I'll try leaving SETA on for a while and try again.

Drewgamer · Post by **Drewgamer** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 07:14

got a big problem...you've got the package as "update" is this intentional?

If not you may want to change that. If it is...how are we to DL the original package?

Hektos

Requiemfang · Post by **Requiemfang** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 07:36

Might explain why it doesn't install via the plugin manager which always gives me an error that it can't install it through that method. I'm always forced to unpack the SPK pack and do a manual install

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 11:32

Ahhhh, D'oh! Thanks for the heads-up guys. I've repackaged and uploaded, please redownload.

Drewgamer · Post by **Drewgamer** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 14:00

ThisIsHarsh wrote:Ahhhh, D'oh! Thanks for the heads-up guys. I've repackaged and uploaded, please redownload.

Cheers good sir, as always keep up the great work.

Hektos

PS: Loving the new "Points to Credits" system. Now I can jump strait into combat without having to build up some capital

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 17:09

Hektos wrote:PS: Loving the new "Points to Credits" system. Now I can jump strait into combat without having to build up some capital

Thats the idea. A really tough one to balance, though (you can of course change the value of points in the config menu).

My methodology was to look at the approximate price of each shiptype versus the amount of points each type gives. This results in anywhere from 100 000 to 1.3 mil Cr. per point, approximately. I took the value of M3s as the median, which is approx 500 000 Cr. per point.

Then I thought, how many ships should I have to kill before I am given the means to buy one? I decided, arbitrarily, on 10 ships destroyed = 1 bought.

So in the end I worked out about 50 000 Cr. per point is about balanced.

If anyone can provide a more balanced default value than that, I'll be glad to hear it. Balance is such a difficult issue when you start straying away from the vanilla means of making money/resources.

Hartzaden · Post by **Hartzaden** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 17:43

heh the only unbalancing thing i found about it is that i had a TON of points to turn in for cash when i updated.

Drewgamer · Post by **Drewgamer** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 17:48

Hartzaden wrote:heh the only unbalancing thing i found about it is that i had a TON of points to turn in for cash when i updated.

Maybe give the option to "donate" points back to your respective empire? Maybe give some rep in return?

Not sure the "realism" to explain this, lol. But it could be a good way for those people who have way too many points and don't want to feel like they are "cheating" by getting tons of credits with all the extras.

Or maybe just have an option to reset points?

Then again it wouldn't bother me either way as I seem to start a new game every 3 days

Hektos

Catra · Post by **Catra** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 17:51

maybe turn in points to convert em into additional tokens? not like permanent additional, just like a sorta oneshot thing.

ThisIsHarsh · Post by **ThisIsHarsh** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 19:23

Catra wrote:maybe turn in points to convert em into additional tokens? not like permanent additional, just like a sorta oneshot thing.

Oh you mean Rearguard tokens, ah OK, that's an interesting idea. Again, "realism" issue there, how would you explain it and not destroy immersion? I really do like the idea, though. Give your ally a temporary boost, a 'surge', if you will. Maybe something like a "Recruitment drive" - use your prestige to rally folk to your cause.

I think a "Reset prestige points" is the best idea for now. Plus maybe a "Point multiplier percentage" so you can modify the quantity of points awarded. Both very easy to implement.

Catra · Post by **Catra** » Wed, 29. Sep 10, 22:03

general / Argon:
a recruitment drive for the military RPer.
a message to fortune seekers telling about how much the commision + after battle looting is for the mercenary.
a pirate can tell everyone else how easy it is to "accidentally" shootup and rob traders during the fray.
a privateer can tell people how easy it is to spook friendlies into bailing / stealing a capitalship during the fray(realism answer to this: transponders. you still transmit the same signal, so as far as the previous owners are concerned, its still theirs).

Split:
so and so insulted our families honor! REVENGE!!!!
lots of boron to shootup, lets get to it

big battle worth lots of honor to our family! lets get to it

Teladi:
lots of profits to be made here if you can invest the right amount of credits

profits are being lost!! help protect your investment, with this limited time offer of increased ship rental!!

Paranid:
Priest duke calls for a crusade to purge the area of the unworthy lesser beings.
Mighty Xaar himself calls for you to bring all our faith to bear so the lesser beings may clearly see our superiority over all that is

Boron:
[insert boron propaganda here]

Terran.
XENOS!! *pew pew*