Game (7.5, 7.6 & 8.0) crashes almost immediately in the main menu

[Maria_EGO]

All these errors are related to the huge chunk of lost device possible exits. Sometimes it can crash with 123, sometimes with 205, sometimes 1061... but unfortunately it is all the same at the end

So... let me know whether vulkan SDK installation did any difference - whether the log message is gone or something else

You can also test whether making your graphics setting in game as "low" changes the stability.
Can you also tell if you have any other processes running on the background while playing? like discord/youtube/anyhting else ?
Could you please run the game again with FPS overlay on (you can either run some xbox windows overlay or launnch on steam our game with flag (screenshot attached)) and please tell me what values are there before and while the crash happens (or record a video)

[BenjiBaggins]

All these errors are related to the huge chunk of lost device possible exits. Sometimes it can crash with 123, sometimes with 205, sometimes 1061... but unfortunately it is all the same at the end

So... let me know whether vulkan SDK installation did any difference - whether the log message is gone or something else

You can also test whether making your graphics setting in game as "low" changes the stability.
Can you also tell if you have any other processes running on the background while playing? like discord/youtube/anyhting else ?
Could you please run the game again with FPS overlay on (you can either run some xbox windows overlay or launnch on steam our game with flag (screenshot attached)) and please tell me what values are there before and while the crash happens (or record a video)

I installed the SDK and the Warning when I execute vulkaninfo vanished. So, it seems I'm stuck with leaving the SDK on my system. Probably doesn't hurt anybody.


Stability on high settings is bad as always. Hangs around 130 fps, 2GB VRam. Between 100fps and 150 fps on the highway loop, depending on the star system...
Stability on low is very good. Same fps and VRam usage.

The values don't change before/while it crashes.


In the background there's sometimes opera, but not really anything else. Tried stopping AVG or Opera or Dropbox & GoogleDrive. The last two are listed as having a high impact on the system. But all this doesn't affect the stability.

[BenjiBaggins]

It feels as if the quality has a much higer influence on stability than the resolution.

[CBJ]

I installed the SDK and the Warning when I execute vulkaninfo vanished. So, it seems I'm stuck with leaving the SDK on my system. Probably doesn't hurt anybody.

That is not a safe assumption. The fact that there are warnings when it's removed suggests something has not been cleaned up properly.

[BenjiBaggins]

I installed the SDK and the Warning when I execute vulkaninfo vanished. So, it seems I'm stuck with leaving the SDK on my system. Probably doesn't hurt anybody.

That is not a safe assumption. The fact that there are warnings when it's removed suggests something has not been cleaned up properly.

Ok, that's true.
But nothing I can do about. Not without a more in-depth tool by Vulkan to search for and fix whatever is wrong, or knowledge about the "inner" workings.

But also, these crashes happened well before the SDK issues came up.

[BenjiBaggins]

8.0 is now consistently crashing with exit code 205 (very rarely 123) before the main menu even comes up.
No matter the resolution or fullscreen/windowed.

[BenjiBaggins]

The combination of 8.0 Beta 3 and nvidia's driver from 22.7. still crashes with exit code 205 before the main menu is appearing.

DxDiag, crashlogs and vulkaninfo in the dropbox

[CBJ]

Please take a look through this table of external tools that are known to cause problems with X4. It has recently been updated, so there may be items on there that you've not checked, even if you've already been through the list before.

[BenjiBaggins]

Please take a look through this table of external tools that are known to cause problems with X4. It has recently been updated, so there may be items on there that you've not checked, even if you've already been through the list before.

I always have the SteamOverlay deactivated.
And all the other programs I've never even heard of. None of them are installed on my system.

[CBJ]

Do you have any other overlays or system monitoring software or game accelerators installed? Please check the installed applications list carefully, as sometimes these tools are installed by manufacturers or system builders and you may not even know they are there.

[BenjiBaggins]

Do you have any other overlays or system monitoring software or game accelerators installed? Please check the installed applications list carefully, as sometimes these tools are installed by manufacturers or system builders and you may not even know they are there.

I searched for all those programs and dlls in the system and the registry.
None of them are anywhere to be found.

[CBJ]

Again, can you check for anything else in the installed applications list that looks like it might do something similar? We add things to that list as and when people run into them, and it's possible you've found a new one for us!

[BenjiBaggins]

Again, can you check for anything else in the installed applications list that looks like it might do something similar? We add things to that list as and when people run into them, and it's possible you've found a new one for us!

xbox and the Evnia Precision Center has a SmartWindow program, that let's me organise windows in specific tiles. Those are the only ones that looked suspicious.
I uninstalled those, but the problem persists.

The only other thing that maybe does anything remotly close to what you're looking for is Stardock Start11, that puts the Windows Taskbar onto the left or right side of the screen?
No, disabling that didn't help either.

[CBJ]

Thanks for checking.

[BenjiBaggins]

I use discord, but only as an opera widget. And I checked...there's no overlay setting. That only seems to be a thing in the standalone program.