[TC] 1 Billion credits, day 3, Vanilla, here's how.

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Post by Timsup2nothin »

Well, if we're going to pretend that nividium mining so you can get enough capital that nothing is a challenge makes the game fun we should at least provide the key point being missed.

If you go out of sector and leave the nividium mining to run automatically the nividium rocks will respawn, thus allowing you to milk nividium forever, set the game on SETA and 'win' without ever bothering to play. Have fun.
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In a game as big and complicated as this one, there's ALWAYS a faster way to do it if you just figure out how...
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rabcor wrote:In a game as big and complicated as this one, there's ALWAYS a faster way to do it if you just figure out how...
Having read about a lot of ways and figured out a fair number for myself, I don't think there is anything faster than mining nividium...other than scripts.
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Timsup2nothin wrote:
rabcor wrote:In a game as big and complicated as this one, there's ALWAYS a faster way to do it if you just figure out how...
Having read about a lot of ways and figured out a fair number for myself, I don't think there is anything faster than mining nividium...other than scripts.
Well... you'd be wrong ;)
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Post by bandarlog »

rabcor wrote: I don't think there is anything faster than mining nividium...other than scripts.
There is. But it involves nividium(it's the safest and fastest)...
For details check out this guide:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131566/
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MarvinTheMartian wrote:
Timsup2nothin wrote:
rabcor wrote:In a game as big and complicated as this one, there's ALWAYS a faster way to do it if you just figure out how...
Having read about a lot of ways and figured out a fair number for myself, I don't think there is anything faster than mining nividium...other than scripts.
Well... you'd be wrong ;)
Note that this is a TC topic. No stock market to exploit.
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Post by AgamemnonArgon »

With mining it is an activity that involves setting up and outfitting ships, monitoring the ships progess, making sales of the goods.

It is simply another method of making money.

Once in a game I made over a million for a passenger trip, one way.

As long as it is fun, and there are challenges, not a problem.

Using Nividium mining to finance a fleet, and maintain Peace in the galaxy, is just another way of having fun.
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Post by MarvinTheMartian »

I know. In fact, the exploit I'm thinking of was patched out of AP a release or 2 ago. It's a biggy and a true exploit in that you can create hundreds of millions in seconds and no limit on repeating it, so, I wont share it here as it's well documented in other topics here.

As for mining nividium, while it at least requires some effort, it is unbalanced in the sense that player can get millions of credits very early in the game without ever really interacting with the economy. But, if you're not looking for that in your game then why not take some short cuts.
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Post by Masochisto »

Knowledge of these game-breaking tricks is not a problem. The game is so deep that new players may feel like they have to use them to explore deeper into the game.

For myself, the most common reason I have restarted was because I found something that worked too effectively and was game breaking.
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Post by theeclownbroze »

guys is the first page of this thread still relevent? or has the game been updated beyond this exploit i need monies fast and i read on the first page that the nividium keeps re spawning is that still the same since '09?
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theeclownbroze wrote:guys is the first page of this thread still relevent? or has the game been updated beyond this exploit i need monies fast and i read on the first page that the nividium keeps re spawning is that still the same since '09?
Think it works still. But if you need that money real quick, IS niv mining might work faster. An OOS setup will bring in much more money after a little more time, but you need quite a few ships to match IS collect speed.
IS you can fill a TL in an hour or 2 from a nice niv roid.
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Post by zazie »

Yes, that's true. But usually players need money at an early stage of the game; before you can afford a TL ;) And be aware that you either have to transfer the Nividium to ordinary freighters before selling them or to lose an important amount of your original investment into the TL when selling the TL.
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Post by thelastslaith »

It can easily kill a game because there are few ways of making money faster and it can make unlimited quantities so if you do this early whats the point in doing the Trade part of the game. Then whats the point in doing the Think part because you can buy unlimited resources and weapons leading to the Fight part dead because you can just buy a fleet of capitals by the end of the week and out number anything you would fight.

It means that when you come up to any challenge in the game you can just buy it out quickly.

This tread is a curse that kills the fun of the game for people lol
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Post by pref »

It might be fun to see it work.
And you will have insane amount of money either way - dont think thats an issue.
No trade rank and rep increase is an issue though (for me at least).
Why not do it if its funny at the time? You can always have another 'real' game going :D

You can do it IS in your single TS, and buy a TL from the first 2 runs anyway.
But surely there are more enjoyable ways of getting things in this game.
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Post by AgamemnonArgon »

You need to locate a Sector with Nividium.
Scan asteroids for Nividium.
Use a Hornet missile to break up one or two Nividium asteroids.
Use HEPT to break eack frgament into two more three more.
Mark the location with a Navsat named Nividium Here.
Leave the Sector, never return.
Nividium will respawn and continue unless the player returns into the sector.

Send a robot freighter. Make sure it has Ore Collector and all sofware.
Send robot freighter to Nividium Here Navsat location.
Select Collect Rocks in Sector.
When freighter is full, send to shipyard and sell the freighter.
It can make 8 to 11 million or so, depending on size of freighter.

With profits, buy more freighters.
Repeat the process.
Do not return to Sector.

Happy Mining.
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Post by thelastslaith »

With a little cash you can improve that by parking a Tl in the middle of the asteroid then surround it with the miners.

you add a jumpdrive and E-cells (optional but helpful with some sectors), upgrade it fully with anything that may be helpful, and most important of all a transporter.

With this you just keep the miners going while you use the TL to drain them all. When its full you jump it to a shipyard, Buy a fresh TL (without any upgrading as a empty shell) transfer all nividium, Sell the new TL, send the origional TL back to the same spot. Then repeat, This can make atleast 60mil a cycle.
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Post by AgamemnonArgon »

Quite right.
I use an Elephant
I load it, fly it to a shipyard when I usually buy super freighters ten at a time.
Transfer the Ore, then order the Elephant to jump back and follow the mining ships.

Oh one really important point !

Assign fighters to patrol the sector.

One or two Pirate, or other hostile fighters, can cause a real massacre among the mining freighters if left unprotected....
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Post by theeclownbroze »

AgamemnonArgon wrote:You need to locate a Sector with Nividium.
Scan asteroids for Nividium.
Use a Hornet missile to break up one or two Nividium asteroids.
Use HEPT to break eack frgament into two more three more.
Mark the location with a Navsat named Nividium Here.
Leave the Sector, never return.
Nividium will respawn and continue unless the player returns into the sector.

Send a robot freighter. Make sure it has Ore Collector and all sofware.
Send robot freighter to Nividium Here Navsat location.
Select Collect Rocks in Sector.
When freighter is full, send to shipyard and sell the freighter.
It can make 8 to 11 million or so, depending on size of freighter.

With profits, buy more freighters.
Repeat the process.
Do not return to Sector.

Happy Mining.
Thanks!
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Post by IanFitzJo »

What's more ridiculous is that the Nv 'roids re-spawn after a few days as well. I have 5 Nv mining patches and the original 'roid I blew has now popped back up all places. :)
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Post by goffrc »

Wish I had thought to us an Elephant, or even a transporter to transfer the minerals.
But I have noticed that Kingdom End or any Boron station pays more for the nividium and ships in general than other stations.

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