Care and Feeding of M6 Craft

kinein · Post by **kinein** » Sun, 4. Jul 04, 03:23

M6 related question :

So which is it, the Nemesis - or the Osprey which should be considered the fastest meanest brutallest Captail Shipkiller in the x-Universe.

mippy · Post by **mippy** » Sun, 4. Jul 04, 07:39

that would definently fall to the Disco

Paris_Hilton · Post by **Paris_Hilton** » Sun, 4. Jul 04, 07:49

mippy wrote:that would definently fall to the Disco

Or Goner Ship

mippy · Post by **mippy** » Sun, 4. Jul 04, 07:51

I once loaded my Cuda with Drones and launched them but not all of them would launch and they just sat in space not attacking what I told them to attack

Paris_Hilton · Post by **Paris_Hilton** » Sun, 4. Jul 04, 07:54

mippy wrote:I once loaded my Cuda with Drones and launched them but not all of them would launch and they just sat in space not attacking what I told them to attack

Maybe there were spaceflies sucked into their engines?

mippy · Post by **mippy** » Sun, 4. Jul 04, 07:56

I must have taken out a whole swarm cause if I remember right I had 36 drones out and about 70 more in my ship that wouldn't launch

Dunham · Post by **Dunham** » Tue, 6. Jul 04, 06:42

A great guide to M6s. The only point I don't agree with is the OOS capability of the centaur. I had it got killed by Khaak clusters repeatedly. The only reliable choice for OOS defense is the Osprey - no scratch on the hull so far. The Nemesis with a PSG/HEPT mixed weapon setup also works fine - but isn't a 100% survivor.

The Dragon is the most fun to fly, but actually pretty useless, due to limited weapon choice. I usually set it to "defend" the nemesis or centaur when attacking clusters. Same with the Hydra, except that she is no fun to fly.

If you want to completely clear a Xenon sector within 15 mizuras - try either Nemesis or Osprey.

Commanche · Post by **Commanche** » Mon, 30. Aug 04, 16:37

So say i had a Osprey and a couple of escorts (which i don't, not enough cash!

) and put them in Presidents End, would they stop the Khaark MURDERING MY TRANSPORTS!?

EDIT: Great M6 guide!

keanut · Post by **keanut** » Mon, 30. Aug 04, 17:18

in a word yes
ive got an osprey a nova(sometimes a dragon) patrolling PE and ive not lost a sinlge ts in 3/4weeks of play, ive also watched as the dragon masacured an XL cluster in less then 30 seconds(OOS)

(/\)arped · Post by **(/\)arped** » Mon, 30. Aug 04, 17:28

ive also watched as the dragon masacured an XL cluster in less then 30 seconds(OOS)

And then you entered that sector when there was a single M5 left. And watched your dragon get mullered. Maybe.

I kinda like the dragon.
I kinda like the nemmy.
I kinda, sorta like the centaur.
I Hate the hydra.
I like the Osprey. A lot.

Osprey =personal ship.
Nemmy=Sector defense in PE (My home sector.)
Dragon=sector defense in PE

and two M2s
Titan= Sector defense in PE
Ray=Sector defense in PE

However, if I need any of them, I extract them from their posts (As long as there's one left.) and use them for what I need.

Usually it's the ray for zapping stuff. (18 Ion Ds!!

)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon, 30. Aug 04, 17:38

i dont think cammo would be hull paint there would have to be some sort of chameleonic effect where by the ship blends into the background of the time . it should also only work when weapons are disabled or turrets set to no command . a run and hide command would be usefull . though i dont run from many thing in z2 theesedays .

Commanche · Post by **Commanche** » Mon, 30. Aug 04, 22:55

what about Cloaking?

(put on a limitated time span and turns off when u go though a jump gate?)

good idea?

ill be suprised if egosoft actally do it!

JungleJim · Post by **JungleJim** » Tue, 31. Aug 04, 00:10

The Guide is great, however, I think it leaves out one of the most important ranking criteria for M6 ships (especially if used in the OOSD role).

COST:

The reason people use the Centaur for OOSD (over the Osprey) is the cost.

I don't have the numbers handy but here's my guestimate for fully equipped costs for the various M6
Dragon (dirt cheap) at $6.5 M
Centaur (still dirt cheap) at $7.5-$8 M
Nemisis (a value purchase) at $8.5-9 M
Hydra (a complete rip-off) at $11 M
Osprey (pricey) at $16 M

The Osprey does better in OOSD, however, I can get ~2 Centaurs for the same price! Personally I'd rather have 2 Centaurs.

I used to use a Nemmy + Centaur pair for OOSD, but realized I spent a lot of time equiping my Nemmies.

Now I only use Centaurs because they are so easy to equip. Purchase them at Argon Prime, tell them to dock at TerraCorp HQ, equip them with Jump Drives + ecells, and jump them to my TL for equipping.

Voila! no muss, no fuss.

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Tue, 31. Aug 04, 09:28

16 million is an overestimate for an Osprey, I think. The ship itself (with 1 125MW shield) costs a little over 8 million (yes, it is cheaper than a Hydra--no, I don't know why either!). Add 1.6 million for a pair of 125MW shields, around 2 million for four GHEPTs, and another half a million for the two BHEPTs on the rear turret, and you get a total of 12.1 million. Even with engine tunings and equipment you're not looking at more than 13 million for a fully-kitted Osprey (unless you consider another four BPSGs for weapon switch to be necessary equipment, which is hardly the case OOS).

tphater · Post by **tphater** » Tue, 31. Aug 04, 10:00

The nemi is not a safe sector defender and if you're in sector and the nemi's fighting it's dead(not even the atack kakm3 wont save it).
Great work damar,i totally agree with your post.

Commanche · Post by **Commanche** » Wed, 22. Sep 04, 22:46

Is there a thread for a auto resupplyer for the M6? COZ I LOV MY M6'S!
IVE BUILT A WHOLE FLLET OF THEM!

Lord_Darkstar · Post by **Lord_Darkstar** » Thu, 23. Sep 04, 00:05

pjknibbs wrote:16 million is an overestimate for an Osprey, I think. The ship itself (with 1 125MW shield) costs a little over 8 million (yes, it is cheaper than a Hydra--no, I don't know why either!). Add 1.6 million for a pair of 125MW shields, around 2 million for four GHEPTs, and another half a million for the two BHEPTs on the rear turret, and you get a total of 12.1 million. Even with engine tunings and equipment you're not looking at more than 13 million for a fully-kitted Osprey (unless you consider another four BPSGs for weapon switch to be necessary equipment, which is hardly the case OOS).

Point:
It's 1 GHept each in the Up and Down turrets, 4 BHepts (2 each) for Main (Forward facing) guns and Rear turrets.

But if you want to use BPSGs in the forward guns (2) and Rear Turret (2), then it gets pricier. And I think that's where the costs come in.

Someone did a full cost and top kit out in a Dragon/Osprey ranting thread on "What M6 to buy" or something similar titled thread. Might be worth linking to for the "Costs to own" discussion.

Jim Parker · Post by **Jim Parker** » Thu, 23. Sep 04, 01:33

Damar Stiehl wrote: 4. Split Dragon
http://www.the-commander.com/x2/pics/drag.jpg

This is the same ship as Julian's daddy's AP Hammer. Dragon's looks make everyone weak in the knees. It is also incredibly fast (324 m/s) and turns on a dime. Great as a personal "fun ship". However, the appeal of the Dragon is severely undercut by a weak forward gun emplacement and lousy shielding and hull strength.

Turns on a dime? How big a dime are we talking about here?

SirMathew · Post by **SirMathew** » Sun, 10. Oct 04, 23:53

Hi...
I am new in the forums and new in the game but i have finished all the missions of the main story to retrieve julians father back,i have 6 SPP running with 6 mantas and 6 scorpions,so i have a stable income..
The last 3-4 days i play mostly to make myself better in capturing ships...
Thanks of the advice that i have found in these forums i have been able to do that playing this game for 2-3 weeks only (playing 3-4 hours/day)..

Right now i am an Vice Admiral and i have captured more than 40 pirate m3-m4 and Transporters and i have finally over 10 million so i want to buy my first m6...
I shall use it not for sector defence but to increase my rank and for my fun killing xenons and maybe khaaks later...
And i like the osprey...

So here are my questions:

What for wheapons shall i use for my osprey??
Are you guy's maxing rudder optimization to make it more manouverable or is it better to buy the half only?
On my nova i have upgraded rudder optimization only to the half,when i maxed it then i had problems in battle...

Also later i plan to use centaurs to defend my sectors,what shall i equip them??

Thanks for the patience to read my post and hopely reply and sorry for my bad english...

THIS GAME IS GREAT !!!

Finally a game that is close to the old elite and elite II (maybe even better!!)...

SirMathew · Post by **SirMathew** » Mon, 11. Oct 04, 22:11

No reply???

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