Coronavirus: COVID-19

[RegisterMe]

I don't know what to say about this, but he didn't deserve for his life to end like that.

Yeah I saw that too. Looks like I may have been wrong about how aggressively (at least compared with SARS) tackled this at the outset .

[Masterbagger]

I don't know what to say about this, but he didn't deserve for his life to end like that.

Ok I read that. Forcing him to sign a statement of making false comments isn't surprising. China is just that evil. This was a young man who wasn't obese and probably more well off than the average person. He was hospitalized on 12 Jan and died on 7 Feb. That is a long time to be sick. That is most of a month spent in the hospital. A man in his prime couldn't beat this bug and required care for that long? And there are 34 thousand cases of it? That is a lot of manpower needed. I think some folks are going to die because there aren't enough hands to physically care for them all.

[felter]

A kettle calling the pot black.

[RegisterMe]

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

A real time dashboard based on data aggregated by John Hopkins.

[felter]

So one of the Anime that I have been watching on Crunchyroll has been postponed due to COVID-19.

Due to production issues related to COVID-19, the broadcast of episode 7 has been postponed. An update will be provided when the new date is announced. We thank you for your patience and understanding.

I expected it to effect a few different things, but I never imagined that one of those other things would be an Anime production, just goes to show what it can and is effecting. They are predicting that a lot of items are going to be missing soon from the shops, as the manufacturers are not getting the materials or items they need from China. I know Apple were complaining that they were getting short on things and were demanding the Chinese send their staff back to work, just shows what kind of ethics Apple has, when profits comes before the lives of those working for them.

[felter]

I predict in the next 2 to 4 weeks things are going to get pretty bad as a lot of people and governments are not taking the virus seriously enough.

There are schools here in the UK that have closed and are having to go through a deep clean, because teachers and students that were on trips to the effected areas in northern Italy, when they came back they decided that going back to school was a good idea. Then you have that idiot of a doctor that was treating those patients in Italy with the virus, a highly infectious virus, decides to go on holiday to Tenerife taking the virus along with him and potentially spreading it to thousands of others, and out of them all he should have known better. Then you have the other idiots in the same Tenerife hotel that get a notice they were to stay in their bedrooms due to possible contamination of the virus, they just ignore that advice and go walk about around the hotel.

Now you have the ones in charge, our own government (UK) included, where their advice is if you are coming back from an infected area to only self-isolate if you come down with flu like symptoms, but yet we know the virus is infectious for up to around two weeks before symptoms appear. It's the same with that hotel in Tenerife, they say it is in lock down but people are free to come and go as they please. This virus is not being taken as seriously as it should be and due to that, this is why I'm predicting it is going to get pretty bad and pretty quickly. It's as though they do not want to inconvenience anyone but yet people are dying from the virus, how inconvenient is that for them and the future people who are going to die from it.

Better get your face masks, as they are running out. Meanwhile stop biting your nails and picking your nose.

[Tamina]

Local doctors seem to judge the situation entirely differently.
The first ever recorded patient in Germany was released from hospital shortly after, with the argumentation "he is fine". Which then caused multiple infections shortly after but it is unsure if the other persons, family members and collegues were already infected.
While global pandemic scientist are on the brink, trying to prevent the sickness from becoming a global disease like the flue.

[Alan Phipps]

@ felter: "It's the same with that hotel in Tenerife, they say it is in lock down but people are free to come and go as they please."

Every recent news item here in the UK is saying that the guests are required to stay in their rooms and that the lockdown includes a police cordon outside the hotel. Do you have knowledge that this is not the case?

[felter]

Quoting the BBC

Agence France-Presse quoted a health authority spokeswoman, Veronica Martin, as saying that guests at the four-star hotel in the south-west of the island were being monitored for "health reasons and the degree of supervision will be assessed during the day, but so far, we're not talking about quarantine".

One guest posted on Facebook an image of a note put under the door of their room on Tuesday saying: "We regret to inform you that for health reasons, the hotel has been closed down. Until the sanitary authorities warn, you must remain in your rooms."

Another guest, John Turton, told the BBC he and his wife had seen the note but then heard people walking outside and heading to breakfast.

People had been walking around the hotel and using sun loungers, he said, but the police cordon was preventing people from leaving.

There was another report from earlier that also said the hotel was in shutdown, but that they weren't stopping people from coming and going which may have changed since then, but I can't find it.

[Alan Phipps]

Ah, you mean 'within' the hotel and not people coming and going as they please 'to and from' the hotel. I doubt that the hotel has the right or means to impose *and* internally police a strict individual room quarantine. I'm not even sure the hotel and their staff (who would need to visit guest rooms) would/could operate at all on that basis.

[Tamina]

In Germany one of the major research institutions responsible for the national preparation has announced, it is not about preventing a pandemic anymore but to slow it down as much as possible. So that as few people as possible get sick at the same time. Also, they try to prevent both a Covid-19 and the flu outbreak happening at the same time.

[Chips]

So with more numbers, the mortality rate is around 8-9% at present. Whether that improves for "More western" nations (Europe, US etc), or gets much worse for nations that have stricken systems (Iraq, Afghanistan), remains to be seen - but wayyyy more deadly than first thought.

[Mightysword]

The thing that worries me the most now is Iran. As much as people complaining about the suppression of information and incomplete data from China, at least they left little for wanting in term of raw effort to combat it, which ultimately what matters the most. In fact given what it takes to impose those measures it's doubtful there will be a second country that will willing to go that far, both in term of government response and the citizen actually put up with it. But right now for Iran we both not going to have a complete picture, but also the country is very reluctant about tackling it.

[felter]

Stop listening to your government, they are politicising the virus for their own gains, Just alone that they accuse others of telling lies when the US government that is all they do, every-time they something, so don't believe anything that they are saying about Iran or anywhere else for that matter.

You say that the Iranians are reluctant to do anything about it, what has America done about it apart from politicising it to attack others accusing them of things that they have no moral right to accuse anyone of anything. The UK government has done piss all about it, the only times they have done anything was when they were forced to by the press pointing out that they were sitting on their backsides and doing nothing, leading to the only times they have done anything was for high profile cases, IE the Japanese plague ship. The UK government along with nearly every other government, have sat on their asses and done little to nothing about it they have stood back looked at it and said it will cost us a lot of money to take care of this while it only has a little over 1% death rate, so lets save the money and let it run. Even your own American companies were demanding that the Chinese get back to work, as it was costing them money, so don't take the high ground on what anyone else is doing till you have sorted out your own crap. Also lets take into account that the American government has imposed strict sanctions on Iran where they don't have or have limited access to items that are needed, meaning that Iran's problems that they are having as escalated due to you incompetent government.

It is really pissing me off how governments are treating this as though it is nothing to worry about, and politicising it for their own nefarious means, rather than helping to combat something that is going to end up killing thousands of innocent people and they are doing it just to save a buck or two.

[Observe]

The only way to contain this, is to take it seriously and ban all unnecessary travel. That would hit the tourism industry probably to the tune of billions, but if people don't travel, the virus won't travel with them. Affected industries would have to be bailed-out somehow by international funds.

[euclid]

I would not be surprised if some mega medical company (like Roche) comes up with the cure (and/or vaccine) and then makes billions in the process.

Cheers Euclid

[Mightysword]

Stop listening to your government,

From this I assume you mean government is your "only" source for information, or they have 100% control of what the media said? If this is true for where you live then I am sorry, I would feel bad for you but it's not how it is in the US. While I do believe our media is in a pretty sad state of affair, but for better or worse there is a clear division that their retards kinda balance each other out. You only have one side serving as the government mouth piece, and that is when their chosen candidate is in the house while the other side gonna make sure even gold look like shit. In fact, in the last few days one side have been going override in attacking "the government" on the response for both legit and imaginary issues, I doubt they have any energy left to "spread government propaganda". And those same stations ran the same articles on Iran.

And that is before you can just ... go and find some third/fourth/fifth/sixth/nth degree source around the world to check at your leisure. Also kinda hard to not believe when the words came out from their own politician and ministers, on cam and all that. Unless you believe our government is ballsy enough to put up a fake video with someone impersonate foreign ministers delivering national address.

Today, it's reported that Iran had started closing their schools and Saudi are stopping pilgrimage from making the trip/gathering. That's a good sight that they may start doing something about it, that doesn't change what happened a few days ago when they were being reluctant. It's a developing story, and it would be nice to be able to talk about just the issue without getting wrapped up or distracted in some political conspiracy.

[red assassin]

I would not be surprised if some mega medical company (like Roche) comes up with the cure (and/or vaccine) and then makes billions in the process.

Cheers Euclid

Vaccines are high development cost and low profit margin, so right now none of the major pharmaceutical companies are working on vaccines. Some smaller ones are, but obviously the development costs are more of an issue for small companies. Additionally, the structure of Coronavirus is similar to the flu virus, which means there's a decent risk it might just mutate as fast as we can produce vaccines for it anyway. There's a pretty good discussion of this about halfway down this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... ne/607000/

[berth]

I wasn't sure where to put this so here it is.

Latest Bond movie release pushed back: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51744374. The line from the studio is to that it's do with limiting exposure etc etc but I imagine it's more to do with the title

Looks fun though.

[Observe]

I live in Washington State, near Seattle where the coronavirus epicenter is in the United States. Part of me thinks its crazy that more isn't being done to prevent further spread and another part of me thinks that I must just be an alarmist and that the authorities know what they are doing. Meanwhile, there seems to be a pervading sense of unease in the general public. Stores are becoming bare of supplies and restaurants etc are seeing a distinct downturn. No one knows what, if any measures may be taken next.