Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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Perahoky wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:47
spankahontis wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:19
fcth wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 05:41

I haven't found these games to be any buggier than anyone else's. One painful crash in X2, one plot-breaking bug involving #deca in TC, but otherwise, reasonably solid. For me, XR performed fine (aside from being a little wonky with the controls), it just wasn't fun, which was a whole other mess, and much harder to fix with some patches (though some stuff like changing the highway minigame seemed so simple and obvious you wonder why they didn't do it much sooner).

In any event, it's entirely fair to hold off on pre-ordering, but I also don't think there's any reason to assume that the game will be an unplayable mess at launch.

You must of got it late as the Storyline was pretty much broken until late January, first the infamous 100 Energy Cell bug where your ship wouldn't sell them to the lonely giant hydrogen facility and after that you couldn't reach Omicron Lyrae, the pathing for ships entering jumpgates between Albion and DeVries was broken; you couldn't complete the URV Station Build Mission, they had to add the materials you needed as it was almost impossible to complete.
Like I said it took till the end of January before the game was completable without editing the savefile.
Perahoky wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 09:59
And egosoft is one of the very single devoloper studios who extend fix and devolop a game long time after the release.

Goto EA and tell them they should fix SimCity or fix Soundbugs or activision creating a game which is not "Call of duty" with copied animations, textures, weapons, stories.
They dont fix old games, but shut down servers and sue people and player who rewrite the server code or mods to make old games playable.
Edit: call of duty is not EA, my fault.

If you were a devoloper, you would know how hard it is, especially in a small team.
Even Creative Assembly are starting to see the benefits of long term game patching. Good PR to do that, ensure that you're trustworthy and they will come back and they will spread the word.
It only takes one X:Rebirth release to ruin years of hard earned trust.
Yes. Thats cause i would say, move the release to another date if its not ready to be released yet. That would cause much less damage as a failed release like XRebirth. So i cant understand why they decided to do that. Maybe its caused by the problem - like at XRebirth - that we are in christmas time. Many people buy christmas presents, so it may be a economical fault to not release...
But, who buys a digital version of a game for his partner or children?


I tend to agree with what someone else said in this topic, sounds like the most viable reason to release X:R in the mess it was in.
Egosoft ran out of money or was on the verge so they took a gamble and released it in the state it was in 1.0 and used the time to repair/patch, add new features and repair their reputation.
Using the money they made from Rebirth and Home of Light to give them some breathing space to turn the next X Title (X4) into the game they wanted X:Rebirth to be.
Was quite a gamble, but they pulled it off, despite the loss in rep XR 1.0 caused. X4 could make or break them? I hope they succeed.
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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Seems like this anti pre-order "hey there gonna be bugs, ya'll" topics have been covered ad nauseam. It's 3 days til release. We get it...please no more threads like this lol
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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fipmip wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 04:47 We've all been here before. New X release, same devs likely doing the same things wrong. in approximately 4 days this forum will be a river of salt.

i recommend not preordering or buying on release day, and watching previews of the game before deciding to buy. as with any game really, but this one especially so.
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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Nikola515 wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:34Welcome to real world ;) People don't care about your efforts but only your product/results .... Market is unforgivable place.
Sounds like the real world sucks then. Mostly the fact lot of countries suffering from a lot of political issues and a big side of the spectrum is throwing tantrums on Gaming Forums. Not saying you of course here but overall I seen so many negative threads here and on steam it's just sad. If these people focused the same energy into important area's imagine what our world might be like.
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Then perhaps my cash will motivate them to fix it faster.
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Kane Hart wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 20:36
Sounds like the real world sucks then. Mostly the fact lot of countries suffering from a lot of political issues and a big side of the spectrum is throwing tantrums on Gaming Forums. Not saying you of course here but overall I seen so many negative threads here and on steam it's just sad. If these people focused the same energy into important area's imagine what our world might be like.
Personally I don't care about politic and to me they are all bunch of idiots taking advantage of people emotions for their own benefits (but lets put this aside because it have nothing to do with this ) :( World sucks for producer and not as much for consumer.... Consumers wants more for their money and sometimes producers cant do it so they cut corners or resort to other things. For example would you be mad if you pay 40.000 dollars/euros for a new car that keeps braking up ? It is not much different from gaming industry and it is only neutral for people to be this way... If you ever start your business you will understand that world is not as simple as it seems (I know I lots of people that are pretty successful in what they do) ;)

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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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palm911 wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:30 i preorder it, sadly i did it using steam instead of buying it directly from egosoft. (my bad) .

they DESERVE any help we can provide . and pre ordering it, also net you a discount.
If you think about it.
People who buy it at release date, without any discount, wouldn't they "support" them more? :gruebel: :D

Shame on you! Preorder users!
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LittleBird wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 21:50
palm911 wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:30 i preorder it, sadly i did it using steam instead of buying it directly from egosoft. (my bad) .

they DESERVE any help we can provide . and pre ordering it, also net you a discount.
If you think about it.
People who buy it at release date, without any discount, wouldn't they "support" them more? :gruebel: :D

Shame on you! Preorder users!
Discount is only for Collector's Edition not base game.... Im going to buy base game so it wont make much difference (unless they have christmas sales on steam). Than I might buy two of them on none at all (depends on game condition) ;)
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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Guys, please let's ignore this thread. The more people write here, the more this little shi*poster wins. Don't give the thread any notice. Those people get what they want if you write here.

OP is sitting in front of a little screen drooling over every comment. Just stop posting here.

just stop ...

If you are looking to say something about X4, choose another topic or create a new one.
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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B0rnN0t wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:12
LameFox wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 16:23 It's okay, I have other games to pass time if it's that bad.
IF your try at prophesying is wrong, will you post an apology to the developers? Made you could tell then, you had no proof the game was broken but you did had an axe to grind. Grind away you only have a couple of days left until we all have the facts.
What are you even talking about? "if" is not a prophecy.
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Dani_Gecko wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 22:11 Guys, please let's ignore this thread. The more people write here, the more this little shi*poster wins. Don't give the thread any notice. Those people get what they want if you write here.

OP is sitting in front of a little screen drooling over every comment. Just stop posting here.

just stop ...

If you are looking to say something about X4, choose another topic or create a new one.
I think we're proving OP wrong with our vocal support of Egosoft.

Also, I think OP is just upset because they bought Fallout 76.
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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Could'nt care less, foundations is an original X again, so preordered.

I also bought Fallout 76 (0,5 hours playtime), and have Rebirth (some hours), because I like to have curiosities in my Game Library, I even have an own Section for such titles. ;) Maybe no mans sky can leave this section sooner or later...
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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I've preordered special edition. At least I'll have the music and the ebook while i not check this forum for all the salt.

People whining about things that aren't out yet being wonk. that's just sad bruh.
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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LameFox wrote: Wed, 28. Nov 18, 04:20
B0rnN0t wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:12
LameFox wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 16:23 It's okay, I have other games to pass time if it's that bad.
IF your try at prophesying is wrong, will you post an apology to the developers? Made you could tell then, you had no proof the game was broken but you did had an axe to grind. Grind away you only have a couple of days left until we all have the facts.
What are you even talking about? "if" is not a prophecy.
Sigh. I'm saying, if you are wrong will you apologise. The prophecy is "the game will be broken on release". You have made a prophecy, an event that will happen in the future. We will see when the game is released if you are correct.
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I personally recommend not listening to fountains of doom like this fella. I've bought every X-game since X2 on release. Yes they have seen problems. So what! We can trust egosoft to fix them and make good on it. Pre ordered it and proud of the fact.
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Re: Just a reminder this game will be busted on release

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I have played around 300h of rebirth and had tons of fun with it.

But what has impressed me more is the dedication that EGOSOFT put into it. Despite the release state being not worthy, they put in a lot of work and brought the game to a playable state. There where patches literally years after release. This kind of product maintenance for a one-of purchase is very unique in today's tech world. This is reason enough for me to prebuy X4.

Will X4 be buggy? Probably. Will it be as bad as X:R? Unlikely. This time around the engine is not new from bottom up. They have 5 years of experience with it now.

I think the hardest part for X games is that they don't come with "arrows" that point you -> do this, kill that enemy now etc. Its a world simulator where you literally make your own game through your actions. The mods that influence game mechanics are part of that. This is the really hard part for a lot of the new comers to understand.
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B0rnN0t wrote: Wed, 28. Nov 18, 11:20
LameFox wrote: Wed, 28. Nov 18, 04:20
B0rnN0t wrote: Tue, 27. Nov 18, 19:12

IF your try at prophesying is wrong, will you post an apology to the developers? Made you could tell then, you had no proof the game was broken but you did had an axe to grind. Grind away you only have a couple of days left until we all have the facts.
What are you even talking about? "if" is not a prophecy.
Sigh. I'm saying, if you are wrong will you apologise. The prophecy is "the game will be broken on release". You have made a prophecy, an event that will happen in the future. We will see when the game is released if you are correct.
Are you new to using forums or something...? I did not post this thread. The thing you quoted earlier was all I said and it contained no prophecy.
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lol. i dont think this is being critical so much as it is managing expectations. The lesson of history is that x4 will have at least one showstopping bug and several major dysfunctions. Go into release day expecting that.
Irrational factors are clearly at work.
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ObsidianAnt's X4: Foundations - Pre-Launch Gameplay Preview Livestream shows it looking pretty good and stable (minus his own issues with figuring out how to stream and then using his CPU to take screen capture of the game in windowed mode so that he could get the stream up). :)
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From the stream it looks pretty much stable and optimized to me. Actually prolly the best launch since a while for a X game :D
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