Current [POLL] Would you use Steam for Rebirth?

[slimgrin]

I will be back to this thread after the first automatic update from Steam works its magic...

[DarkKlown77]

This is true, I do love GoG, and impulsedriven.com (which is now run by gamestop) they have good deals as well.

[ldarkelfl]

I don't love steam, but it allowed me to play games without the need to pirate them and that says it all.

[Ebany]

I don't love steam, but it allowed me to play games without the need to pirate them and that says it all.

lol, that's classic, the best reason so far

[Ebany]

I question your will to "support Egosoft in all their ventures" if Steam is enough to stop you from actually supporting Egosoft.

Killing baby animals stopped some people from buying fur jackets, so were the ones who continued to pay supporters or simply didn't care enough about the future of our products?

[Mountain_Puncher]

Steam, to me, is like Wal-Mart. You can't beat their prices now, but wait until they smother out any competition. Though Actually I usually will buy a game from Wal-Mart and then take it home and have to activate it on steam. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻) . btw I pledged for star citizen and got a usb stick of the game. I guess that was probably pioneered by steam .

[Raider480]

I don't love steam, but it allowed me to play games without the need to pirate them and that says it all.

Are we allowed to talk about that?

If XR doesn't come out in a physical form, it will be a very hard sell for me. We don't actually own anything we buy from Steam, so without a no-DRM copy, I'm out.

[Night Nord]

I don't love steam, but it allowed me to play games without the need to pirate them and that says it all.

Are we allowed to talk about that?

If XR doesn't come out in a physical form, it will be a very hard sell for me. We don't actually own anything we buy from Steam, so without a no-DRM copy, I'm out.

ACtualy that's quite funny, because yes - you can't now legally obtain Freelancer (and a whole bunch of older games), unless you are ready to order used CD from south africa to be delivered in a five years. Thanks to Steam, such a situation is much less common for more modern games. GoG has done a great deal in legalizing old-games exchange market, but they still has problems with games that don't have active publishers or publishers just do not care for some reason.

If XR doesn't come out in a physical form, it will be a very hard sell for me. We don't actually own anything we buy from Steam, so without a no-DRM copy, I'm out.

X:R will be published on physical copies (how exactly - you shall ask from corresponding publisher, either Deepsilver or Tri Sinergy), but it will require Steam to activate anyway (in other words - it would be just steam cache to skip most of download).

And no, there will be no publisher-published no-DRM version under any circumstances. When you've last seen such a thing in a modern world?

[Ebany]

Not suggesting anything but I really like the way Telltale handles digital sales.

+1

We don't actually own anything we buy from Steam, so without a no-DRM copy, I'm out.

This is true, normally we are purchasing the "rights to use the software" (in various forms e.g. serial key) from the publisher even when buying a physical copy, which we generally pay more for because of the medium its transported on. The same applies to music which is why (in some countries) a person is allowed to make backup copies.

I purchased CE Defiance and DLC from Trion (whom I trusted at the time) but was unable to download or play the game (along with thousands of other people) due to their crappy programing of their installer. After weeks of discussion with their tech support and my (two, one fixed and the other one mobile 3g) isp's they agreed that they couldn't help me but would refund ANY part of my purchase because it was against their policy. Steam, as I know from experience (e.g. The Witcher 2), follow a similar policy.

Thanks to Steam, such a situation is much less common for more modern games.

Like religion, Steam has bought some wonderful things into this world which is why they get so many zealous followers, online companies (e.g. apple) these day seem to be more religious in nature and the same applies to their followers.
But then the Christians bought down the Roman Empire, burnt women alive, had the crusade ..... and I won't even start with the Muslims ....

GoG has done a great deal in legalizing old-games exchange market, but they still has problems with games that don't have active publishers or publishers just do not care for some reason.

I know, oh I know.

HardWar

Apart from Bandit Kings of Ancient China, one the the best games I've ever played .......... the depravities I would go through to see that title come out on GoG ..........

[Ebany]

Steam, to me, is like Wal-Mart. You can't beat their prices now, but wait until they smother out any competition.

This is one of my largest concerns and one of the (several) main reasons I now avoid them. This stems from another concern; Why do people worship companies like a temple?

[Captain Lemmiwinks]

pre steam-
installed xtc
played xtc


post steam-
installed xap
installed steam
steam says i must enter a code as it doesnt know my pc personally
get code email
enter code.....
message "code is too old" [3 mins??????]
get another code
message "code is too old"
get another.....and another....
5 codes later....it works
steam starts downloading 7.2 gig ??????????
30 mins later it says its ready to play
CRASH !!!
check steam cache or whatever
steam starts downloading another 7.2 gig
30 mins later...hit play
game starts

checks clock...too late to play...bedtime

next day...hit play

CRASH!!!

steam again trys to dload 7.2 gig....



will i play ANY game on steam ?

4 coughs and a sneeze.

[nova beacon]

I would really like to buy the game but i prefer not to use Steam. I do have some games on Steam because i don't have a choice. And that's what it is about choice. Developers should be giving gamers options and not forcing people into to using Steam. If i do buy a game that requires Steam i will wait till the price is heavily reduced i will never buy it at full price.

[nova beacon]

I will buy a copy but not from steam, I refuse to support that company in any shape or form.

I know of a company that makes some Space games and they don't have any DRM at all apart from the personalization of your disc. They have a bit of a following because of not using DRM on all there games.

[Ebany]

... steam says i must enter a code as it doesnt know my pc personally ....

I discovered your account can get "locked" if you don't log in often enough, though I don't know if this still happens, it's a pain in the a$$

will i play ANY game on steam ?

4 coughs and a sneeze.

You forget the fart

I would really like to buy the game but i prefer not to use Steam. I do have some games on Steam because i don't have a choice. And that's what it is about choice. Developers should be giving gamers options and not forcing people into to using Steam. If i do buy a game that requires Steam i will wait till the price is heavily reduced i will never buy it at full price.

+1

[Captain Lemmiwinks]

will i play ANY game on steam ?

4 coughs and a sneeze.

You forget the fart

a fart is methane...a sellable gas...steam would have tried to make money off that...so i consigned it to the duvet while holding the mrs under....at least then only i get something from it...

gaseous vitamins...not to be wasted

[Inverness]

I would really like to buy the game but i prefer not to use Steam. I do have some games on Steam because i don't have a choice. And that's what it is about choice. Developers should be giving gamers options and not forcing people into to using Steam. If i do buy a game that requires Steam i will wait till the price is heavily reduced i will never buy it at full price.

Considering the vast majority of money from your purchase is going to the developer, you're only hurting them more. Valve employees take baths in cash, they're not the ones you're going to hurt by doing that as an act of spite.

I buy stuff on sale because I like sales, not out if spite.

Steam, to me, is like Wal-Mart. You can't beat their prices now, but wait until they smother out any competition.

Steam was around and excellent before there was competition.

Edit: Also, there seems to be a lot of low-tier trolling going on here, knock it off and try to make an intelligent argument if you have issues.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

Personally, I have had no issues with Steam in the past couple of years I have been actively using it again. Got my Steam account several years ago when it first came out and at the time I hated it.

Steam is not perfect and what so-called competition there is are not competition in any real sense IMO. I have Uplay (via Steam) for Assassin's Creed games and Origin for any recent EA games.

There are some who have issues with Steam (and similar services) for varying reasons, some rational and some not. However, where X-Rebirth is concerned it is most likely going to be a case of having to take the Steam medicine if you want your X-Rebirth sugar lump.

[onyhow]

As they said: the result speak for itself, most people don't have problem with Steam, me included ..I was pretty eh with Steam (use it for games that need it, I don't have a card back then so only physical copy games) until I managed to participate in some Humble Bundle sales and then Steam sales...

Also, what Night Lord said.

[elexis]

2. paying $60 for a game, $20 for thousand miles of international shipping

I should point out that even today ^^^ is considered a good thing for Australians as it is still cheaper than the $90-$110 we pay online for the same game sans-packaging.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

2. paying $60 for a game, $20 for thousand miles of international shipping

I should point out that even today ^^^ is considered a good thing for Australians as it is still cheaper than the $90-$110 we pay online for the same game sans-packaging.

That is like £53-£65 (at current exchange rate of 1.683 AUD to 1 GBP), which is higher than the current non-sale-price norm in the UK (£30-£50).