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Re: Confused and worried

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jaml78 wrote:I want to command from bridge.
Nobody forbids to do so.
But there are those who want to play, not to give out commands.
Some just do not want the simulator, they want a strategy.
Some just do not want to strategy, they want the simulator.
Maybe it's time to think about what Egosoft want in 2013?!
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Re: Confused and worried

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Dupin wrote:
jaml78 wrote:I want to command from bridge.
Nobody forbids to do so.
But there are those who want to play, not to give out commands.
Some just do not want the simulator, they want a strategy.
Some just do not want to strategy, they want the simulator.
Maybe it's time to think about what Egosoft want in 2013?!
It's not about what Egosoft wants, it's always about the consumer.
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Re: Confused and worried

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squirrelrider wrote:It's not about what Egosoft wants, it's always about the consumer.
I just meant that some people want the exact same game endlessly - they are feared changes. While the developers can give us interesting ideas. Look at the Big Picture - it's more interesting than any game concept before Albion Prelude. Of course, this is just my opinion.
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Post by Earth Ultimatum IV. »

Guys, you keep forgetting, the Albion Pride is a "jack of all trades", that ship is heavily overpowered, fast, agile with huge firepower, cargo space, missile compactibility, upgrades, and even filled with drones who work for you.
You don´t need more ships no more, since the Skuns does anything.

The downside is that you only have one Skunk.
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Post by Jeraal »

Earth ultimatum IV. wrote:The downside is that you only have one Skunk.
And it is an UGLY Skunk. Hit every branch on the ugly tree as it fell.
Brute force and ignorance solves all problems, just not very efficiently.

If brute force isn't working, then you aren't using enough.
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Jeraal wrote:
Earth ultimatum IV. wrote:The downside is that you only have one Skunk.
And it is an UGLY Skunk. Hit every branch on the ugly tree as it fell.
How interesting...
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Post by Earth Ultimatum IV. »

The ship can be customised. Not only it´s stats, also the exterior.

Personally I like it´s look :) Shame that in AP it is unboardable.
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Post by Night Nord »

Wait, wait, wait. You are really talking about this one ship vs. many ships thing AGAIN? Really?!
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Post by A5PECT »

Night Nord wrote:Wait, wait, wait. You are really talking about this one ship vs. many ships thing AGAIN? Really?!
Without new information, the only thing to do on this forum is retread old debates.
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Post by Night Nord »

Pfff. But why not be a little bit more imaginative on that cause, at least?

You know, someone told that he don't like new PC ship looks? Draw better one!

Let's make a contest of PC-ship concepts. And don't say "I just want to be able to choose another ship" - that's for weak, you are not solving the problem, you are running from it.

You want your dream-ship? Make it! You want to cross the void of space on your own damn pink pony unicorn with rainbow trusters? Ok, just draw it and maybe community will choose it!

You know, I'm fairly sure that EgoSoft will react to that.
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Night Nord wrote:Let's make a contest of PC-ship concepts. And don't say "I just want to be able to choose another ship" - that's for weak, you are not solving the problem, you are running from it.
From the way Rebirth is described, gameplay is going to be designed around the Skunk itself. Something ingrained so heavily in the game was probably fleshed out early on in development, and less and less likely to change the further you get along the process.

Sounds like a good plan for some kind of expansion/DLC, though.

My guess? Egosoft is going back to their roots (duh). They're developing Rebirth with one ship in mind to work out the basic mechanics behind how the player controls a ship and interacts with the universe. Once that framework is finalized, it can be adapted to other ships and ultimately integrated into a system that allows the player to change ships during gameplay.

That was the basic path of development between XBTF, X-Tension, and X2. Now they're starting that journey again, hence the name "Rebirth."

(Duh).




So... yeah. At some point after Rebirth's release, it would be a great idea to begin some kind of fan-driven contest to pitch and design ships for X: Rebirth-Tension, or whatever the expansion or sequel is called. It would give players a slight allusion to Egosoft's long-term development plans and go a long way in assuaging all of these "only-one-ship" complaints.
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Post by Night Nord »

Why after? It's a great way to spend some time. And it shouldn't be too much official. You know, pink-pony shaped ship with rainbow trusters could be a great easter egg to be included into game, or something weird like that.

It's just much better way than simply saying "I don't like new PC ship".
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Post by A5PECT »

Night Nord wrote:Why after? It's a great way to spend some time. And it shouldn't be too much official.
Well, yeah. There's nothing stopping fans from doing... anything, really.

I was saying that Egosoft may not be in a position to utilize what fans may come up with for Rebirth. We may have already missed that boat, so I'm saying we get ready for the next one to come around.
It's just much better way than simply saying "I don't like new PC ship".
Anything would be better than hearing the same old complaint for the billionth time. :roll:
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