[TC] Unholy Traitor start : Holy bleep?!

BDStyle · Post by **BDStyle** » Wed, 19. Nov 08, 21:10

None of the starts are hard that don't involve imminent death at the end of the barrel because of the infamous 'deliver ship' missions. Even with the goner start it'll only take you a few hours to get yourself a ship with a gun.

Basically unless a game mechanic is inserted against you or you are placed in a massively dangerous situation its only time that changes not difficulty.

Looney · Post by **Looney** » Wed, 19. Nov 08, 21:44

I seriously think that this 'HOLY TRAITOR' start is Well ARD.
I took me two days just to last longer than 10 mins.
After 20 restarts. I fianlly got out of split space.
Then i was hounded by bounty hunters. Turning up in greater forces, and now in M6's. The split and Paranid are at lowest possible REP going.
This is the hardest thing Ego have started us on that i have witnessed.

Reitema · Post by **Reitema** » Wed, 19. Nov 08, 23:21

It's possible though... Priority should be getting better shielding, after that no bountyhunter can mess with you heh

Reitema · Post by **Reitema** » Thu, 20. Nov 08, 09:39

@ BDStyle Seriously dude, haven't you read to torrent of anguished remarks earlier in this thread? What you said is to a "T" what happens in the Unholy Traitor start heh, you have to be either very good, or very lucky, or a combination of both if you want to live long enough to the point where you can start your ship delivery quests heh. And even then you're constantly chased by enemies that increase in strenght just as you do (admittedly, I don't lose sleep over a couple of m6's, despite the fact that I'm still flying my Medusa Prototype --> I haven't started a war with one race and be exiled from another for nothing damnit)

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Thu, 20. Nov 08, 10:17

@Reitema: Read more carefully what BDStyle says:

None of the starts are hard that don't involve imminent death

And it was a reply to Deadbeat_Spinn. He did not speak about Traitor.

Reitema · Post by **Reitema** » Thu, 20. Nov 08, 15:31

I guess so... Wasn't meant in any way other than conversational of course. I'm sure that if he felt offended in any way (which I can't imagine) he would have replied himself

Also, I assumed that messages don't need to be directed at me in order for me to reply to them (the best example being you replying to mine for that matter heh).

Reitema · Post by **Reitema** » Fri, 12. Dec 08, 12:08

Shameless bump, but I would just like to state that I have recently managed to befriend the split again. The best way, in my opinion, to do this is accept assassination missions near the split border, and sometimes (ergo: reload 'till it happens) you get the mark in a split sector. Especially on higher combat ranks you just jump in, kill some M6 pirates and you're right back on Rhonkar's good side. You might still have some factories against you, but I guess you can just hack those stations if you just keep checking the stations for people offering... haven't even begun to try the Paranid, but tbh I plan to take a bunch of ships off em before doing that. Agamemnon, Hyperion, TL or two, M1/2 and maybe THEN I will deem them worthy of survival

anneking · Post by **anneking** » Fri, 12. Dec 08, 15:47

Speed is what kills you. Even with the khaak start in X3R, the ship did 135m/s, just enough to outrun the big guns.

A pirate station in sector would be great. Upgrade your speed. Do you start with any credits? Hide inside a trading station, fly in /out/ circle around / a jump gate till its clear. Sounds intriguing.

Must give this a go tonight.

Looney · Post by **Looney** » Fri, 12. Dec 08, 15:57

well i have progressed quite far now.
I have paranid and split police licenses.

So they definately freinds.
I used yo hang behind gates out of view of police and kill pirates until i got my rank up.
Still have the odd few stations in split and paranid space red to me.
But i can live with that till i hack them or kill them, or ignore them.
Certainly a difficult start, and a long haul to get across universe.

Reitema · Post by **Reitema** » Fri, 12. Dec 08, 18:49

All the more rewarding... I was in Omicron Lyrae the other day (god that sounds weird heh, like going to the neighbourhood supermarket), and I noticed two "Merc" ships. A Split, and a paranid flying a Medusa Prototype (just like me!)... Was wondering wether or not they were relevant? Have never seen them before in any other game...

cantthinkofaname · Post by **cantthinkofaname** » Fri, 12. Dec 08, 19:03

The Omicron Lyrae mercs are hanging around waiting for you to start the Operation: Final Fury campaign.

anneking · Post by **anneking** » Mon, 15. Dec 08, 00:07

Holy Moses, after 40 attempts finally made it !!

Unbelievably ARD. I was beginning to think people had cheated to survive this nightmare.

Started in Family Zyarth. Headed to North Gate.
First wave of 4 bounty hunters, took out all 4
Second wave had 8 fighters, took out 6, nerfed the other 2 (I disabled my turrets here so they would survive).

Made it to gate (80% hull)
Entered Family Ryk
No bounty hunters on the other side, nice change!!!
Flew directly downwards
Then headed north keeping well below plane Y=-40
Gate for Ocean of fantasy came into view
Flew up towards gate
4km from gate 2x Split Mamba Police gave chase
I entered the gate from the rear side as they were firing on me.
Survived. Oh so very very very lucky

Ocean of fantasy. Simply wonderful feeling. EQ dock, upgraded speed.

Whacked a split transport in sector, bailed first time, good rep boost with Borons, sold the transport, upgraded everything, triplex scanner etc, On my way.

The 2 nerfed bounty hunters follow me everywhere, dunno which one is important, so I let them follow, I’m off to the unknown sector next for a scout around, guess they'll get whacked by xenon on route, will more spawn in a xenon sector 534 I wonder…..?

update: pretty obvious for good targeting, 6x PBE main, 2x PAC to turrets.

Davinaldo · Post by **Davinaldo** » Mon, 15. Dec 08, 18:02

Just managed to escape!

I probably had the easiest escape of all!!!!!

I started in Contorted Dominion - to the East gate is Faded Dreams (Boron).

So I dealt with the Bounty Hunters - killed off all but one M5. Just got that last M5 so that it went slower then me. Then escaped

Easy!

Ok - now comes the fun part - building up to survive...

Looney · Post by **Looney** » Tue, 16. Dec 08, 01:31

well done lads and lasses!
Glad im not the only one enthralled by this difficulty!

khemeher · Post by **khemeher** » Fri, 18. May 12, 14:39

I may be necro-ing this thread, but I feel the need to post here, so bear with me.

I was about to create a rant thread on the forum about this, but on a whim I decided to google "X3"+"Unholy Traitor". I was pleased to find out that this was not some glitched after-market restart & was actually possible to survive.

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that it should be nearly impossible in a game like this to be friends with everyone. You should have at least 1 or 2 of the main commonwealth races as enemies in a realistic situation. They should force you to make choices that put you firmly on one side or the other of faction wars.

I'm not sure if this start addresses that shortfall in the system, or if it's just plain old hardmode for aggressive players, but I'm re-affirmed to do it!

Post by **Nanook** » Fri, 18. May 12, 18:36

khemeher wrote:I may be necro-ing this thread, but I feel the need to post here, so bear with me. ...

Yes, you're "necro-ing", and no, we won't "bear with" you. It's almost always better to create a new thread rather than raise one over three years old.
Things tend to change, including the release of patches that can affect gameplay. Please don't dredge up old threads again. **CLICK**

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[TC] Unholy Traitor start : Holy bleep?!