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Christopher lawless
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Post by Christopher lawless »

does this shield hack ahve anything to do with that option that allows my fighter drones to rob ship cargo?
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I dont believe so.

Post by Martin Logan »

I dont believe it works without player in the ship controling it.
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Post by moggy2 »

yeh, it's not supposed to be there. It won't work if you try it.

It's just a quirk in the script editor that I forgot to work round.
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Post by hawkz25 »

Ok good, i was about to ask about that, on XTM with RRF i noticed when I selected a drone there was a rob command... as you say , it didn't work. ;)
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Post by Sahvion »

Some posters asked why this device won't work on big ships... well.. here's a reason that I think fits very well (and is actually very TRUE in our world)

A big ship is easy to spot; a small ship is not - its like smuggling in the real world. The smaller the ship, the easier it is to smuggle the goods into an area, and the harder it is to locate.

In X3's context: A smaller ship means its easier to hide (in thoery) and that you won't be spotted by police forces right away. However, as the script writer mentioned, there is a chance that your presence will be discovered - to put it in real life terms - the pilot and his co-pilot will discover that cargo is being beamed off the ship and scan space and discovered that nice lone M5 right under them beaming cargo off the ship.

So actually it's pretty easy to understand why this device won't work on larger ships ;)
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Post by Atmus »

It isn't that the ship is harder to hide, that should just make it easier to get away with what you are doing. Obviously the Xenon J/K knows you are there, so they aren't going to go "Hey, our backup guns are disappearing! Maybe that ship that's been shooting at us from 50 meters away has something to do with it?"

The more shields a ship has, the harder it is to get away with beaming, that's fine. If you strip a ships shielding, you should be able to beam the stuff off of it. I suppose that that makes it way too easy to get money though, so there has to be a trade-off. I just wish I knew about the limitation before I bought an expensive, otherwise useless (to-me) module. I might try ripping off a K with a TS sometime, but untill then...
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Post by Lapo »

Great script! I just used it on a Faunus (XTM mobile factory ship) and bought and equipped a carrier with the profit!
In vanilla I guess you should use it on unnarmed vessels with great cargo capacity, like dolphins. This little upgrade should pay itself in no time.
And when you are done just contact the poor victim and tell him you are sorry! They get friendly again. :lol:

EDIT: Uh, I wish I noticed that the use of the device will kill your goner reputation. Went down to Heathen before I noticed.
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Cartel Sheild Hacker and Big Ships

Post by argon_emperor »

I've had a look through the scripts for the Cartel Sheild Hacker, after reading that it can't be used by the big ships (M6, M7, M1, M2, TL), but for the life of me I can't figure out which line(s) I need to change in order to enable it to work with these ships. Any help to what I need to do would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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Post by moggy2 »

look in setup.plugin.cartel.sh

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018   global script map: set: key=$command, class=Little Ship, race=Player, script='plugin.cartel.sh.cmd.hacker', prio=0
change little ship to movable ship
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Post by Nothingbetter2do »

best way to steal cargo quickly using the cartel shield hacker is to first beam out the target ship's rear turret weapons then it's shield generators....once its shields and rear turrets are gone the rest should be easier by simply staying directly behind it

a cool modification to this script if only it could be made would be the ability to beam the pilot out and thus steal his ship....:P
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Post by Gammel »

I know that you cant steal equipped wares with this. (without modifying the script) But I found myself a Nova Weapons Dealer last night, checked him out with the freight scanner and found he had a Mass Driver on board that he wasn't using. (He had some HEPTs Equipped) So I thought Id have it.
But when I attempted to take it, it failed, saying the weapon was equipped.

Hows this work?
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Post by Allattar »

Daft question,
Can I send the victim cargo as well as steal it?

I would love being able to send the guys a present thats all.
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Post by Darkaar »

oh my ! I just wasted too much profffittttsssss !
come on , this isn't fair !
for 6 mils i can build a station & few TSs & get thousands of credits every mizura without even bothering sitting on my computer !
Also you know how much it takes to raise reputation , and we don't want to loose it for this little credits. please guys make it easier keeping in mind what i've mentioned above. this is a very good idea don't spoil it please, thanks anyway.
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Post by moggy2 »

small credits?! do you know how much 5 Ion Disruptors will net you? And there's a good chance they'll never notice just 5 items being beamed off.

If you get the right targets, this can be quite an earner, and since most ships seems to advertise what sort of thing they're trading in it's not too difficult to find rich pickings.

PS, rep is quite easy to buy, if a little expensive.
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the shield hacking software

Post by crawlerw »

i have been thinking about this new feture.
you could proberly abuse it.
take a M7 with this feature and place it any xenon sector, one with k's and j's would be nice.
stick to the roof of one and beam out its GPPC's and other weapons you can grap :twisted: then head for the next if you got the room else jump out to sell the haul

have anyone tried this yet
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Post by Kor'ah »

the sheilds hacker doesn't work at all on a M7. Also anything that can be mounted in a ship's hardpoints can't be stolen. It's annoying to see a Boron Ray with a hold full of guns and you can't steal a single one.
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Post by crawlerw »

so no use buying in the first place
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Post by Darkaar »

well ! :oops: I feel stupid a little bit ..
after several trials , i found out that this shield hacker reaally rocks !

you're right moggy, if you choose the right ware to steal, well you won't just get rich, but you'll also have too much fun :D, but you have to work on goner's reputation.

considering goner's is there a way to boost the reputation with them ? (other than buying stuff from them)
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Post by jlehtone »

Darkaar wrote:considering goner's is there a way to boost the reputation with them ? (other than buying stuff from them)
Donations. However, they are a non-profit organization, so unlike "races" that are "all loving" for 25 mil or so, Goners are not as impressed about credits. (Took 900 mil to reach top rank with them.) :roll:
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Post by moggy2 »

rather than repeating myself, I'll just move this over to the other thread where I explained it's worth

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