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Moxy wrote:
To be honest I liked the first version more. It looked a bit like a submarine, with the command bridge as highest point of the structure.
Now you've done it, plz don't ever post in this topic again! :wink:

Imo both versions are still a no-go....someting is missing and that might very well be the part that makes you say 'Ooooh I want to have that ship in my fleet'.

Then again, I want to finish this up so I can start on the Split cause it annoys the crap out of me that all their big ships look so much alike.
Believe me when I say that the first version felt like "I need this" to me, really!

But on the other hand you're right, something was missing, in the aft part of the first version. The front was ok, also the middle section, but the engine section looked like just a smaller version of the M1/M2....
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Names:

All these are keeping with the naming conventions set forth by Egosoft.
Argon are consistent with job (Discoverer) or size (Titan) except Centaur which doesn't fit IMO, Boron are of course fish, Paranid are mythological gods/heroes, Split are deadly creatures, and the Teladi use bird names.

Argon Manticore (Well if Centaur is half-man half-horse why not?)
Boron Piranha (any fish would do i suppose)
Paranid Phobos (Fear sounds appropriate (thanks CO. Dragon Corp))
Split Wyrm (it is an ancient and very large dragon)
Teladi Eagle (could be a hawk, but eagles are generally bigger)

Edited: the Split Wyvern would be a smaller dragon, not a bigger one so i went with Wyrm instead.
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She didn't mind the gap and ended up vapourized!
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Well, daidalos/daedalus is greek mythologie.
I would be honoured to be named after a ship class. ;)

This looks awesome. Really good job. I alsways wanted something like that for X2. I´m really looking forward to the release.

Now the technical part. You could raise the shield-capacity to 2GJ.
1GJ is too weak, imho. And bring down the docking bay to max. 4 ships. Cargo is fine.
This is better than that.
The first version really looks like a hunter. Small and deadly. The bigger version looks heavier, slower and more immobile.
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Moxy, you ROCK at this stuff. :o
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Thank you all for the feedback and suggestions, they are most welcome!

Below a pic with the 3 current versions of the Argon M7 (currently named Fluffy-class after one of my cats, soon to be renamed into it's service name, yet to be decided upon by The Goner Madpriest sect.).

Version 3 is somewhat of semi-serious....in case ES unlocks the
"MakeaApocalypsefromscratch"-code, the Argon are at least prepared for it with their Boomer aka Typhoon.

My understanding atm is thumbs up for 1, down for 2 yes?
Then I'll finalize the first and blow up the 2nd, unless someone thinks otherwise.

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/318/ ... art9in.jpg

(The textbaloons are optional and only on the Deluxe-versions).
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I like number 3 very much. Number 1's front part reminds me of the Vagyr Missile Frigate from Homeworld 2...
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I like number 3 as well, but it seems to me to be a bit thin it the foresection. Maybe a compromise between number 2 and 3 for the width of the front would make it look a bit beefier (read: tougher).
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Number 1's front part reminds me of the Vagyr Missile Frigate from Homeworld 2...
Is that a good or a bad thing?
I played HW2 but atm my body is very angry with my mind, telling it to shut up and go sleep :)

I'll make just 1 version in the future *grin*, keeps things way less complicated.

Version 3 has a completely different look from the other 2, but the fact that it's front is just a flat-plain makes for many possibilities on it's use.
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Post by CO. Dragon Corp »

After I've taken a looooong look at the three picture, I would say number three is the best.

And maybe the mentioned "thin front section" is that kind of feature that makes it special.

But again, I must say, number three reminds me at a submarine even more than number one. And yes, this IS good :wink: .

/edit: Took another look....and now number two is my favorit :lol: . Ok ok....so I agree with dgn master, a compromise between number two and number three would be optimal!
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CO. Dragon Corp wrote:snip... And maybe the mentioned "thin front section" is that kind of feature that makes it special. ...snip
The only reason i mentioned it is due to the fact that although #3 does look superior to the other pregnant whale models when you reduce the front down that far it reminds me of a fighter and not so much a frigate.

Once it is scaled to the size pictured next to the centaur it may make no difference though and may indead look like the frigate model we would like to see.
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Post by Red Spot »

number 2 ..

it says 'I'll get you!!' more than the other 2 imo ..(or how you want to put it .. :) )


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Post by CO. Dragon Corp »

BTW: Moxy, you mentioned that there is always the possibility to merge thausands of other mods regarding to the wishes of players...

Indeed, the choices are wide. But at least there's one mod - beside Mehrune's M6 upgrade mod of course *gg* - you should consider to merge into your mod: The community patch 1.1, or at least the fixed turrets it features.

But this is of course only theory at the moment. Maybe the first beta-release should feature this.
But as for the first alpha there's just need for the frigate and nothing else, until it's tested properly :wink: .

Just an idea...
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Post by gorg_graggel »

nice work...
i like the idea very much...

i just think that it's too big...dunno why, but from looking at the shots it simply feels to big for me...or maybe i'm just looking for something in between the size of m6s and your m7 class... :)

the tonight's final design looks very good btw...
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Good job Moxy! And good night! :D
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This is good. I am planning something in about 2 or 3 weeks and I'd like to use this for that. I would definately like to see the other races' M7s.
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The profile of your final looks perfect, but i wondering if you could give us the overhead, facing, and rear screenies? BTW thanks for making the front a bit thicker :).
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I'll post some more screens later on the day with all the angles.
Just upgraded to another version of 3ds and am now going through some
new possibilities (well, new to me, not new to 3ds:))
I'd realy like the steam-engine front on the M7 to go...apart from that it's ok.
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dgn master wrote:Names:
Boron Piranha (any fish would do i suppose)
doesn't the piranha already exist ?
im sure i heard it being talked about in the ships details, as an old ship that was replaced

anyways moxy, i can host the files if you like, my servers got several gb's free
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Cycrow wrote:
dgn master wrote:Names:
Boron Piranha (any fish would do i suppose)
doesn't the piranha already exist ?
im sure i heard it being talked about in the ships details, as an old ship that was replaced

anyways moxy, i can host the files if you like, my servers got several gb's free
Yea your right :( was the name of the old m4 (damn at the rate their going through fish names we'll soon be down to mackerel and tuna ... lol)

Maybe a Boron Swordfish would be better anyways (at least it isn't taken YET).
Could the parents of the little Argon girl, Suzie, please claim her sealed jar of remains?
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